You're much more likely to lose your photos kept on your own computer at home than to lose them on iCloud because you likely don't have the capabilities for redundant backups and protection from fire, flood, theft, drive failure, and other circumstances. In any case, the new Photos app for Mac stores all of your photos on your Mac as well so if you have Time Machine turned on, you get local backups in addition to iCloud. Pretty much a perfect scenario.
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First Impressions of Photos for OS X: 'Vast Improvement' Over iPhoto
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You're much more likely to lose your photos kept on your own computer at home than to lose them on iCloud because you likely don't have the capabilities for redundant backups and protection from fire, flood, theft, drive failure, and other circumstances. In any case, the new Photos app for Mac stores all of your photos on your Mac as well so if you have Time Machine turned on, you get local backups in addition to iCloud. Pretty much a perfect scenario.
Anyone know how to import an existing iPhoto library?
I assumed that apple would have automatically imported it
I assumed that apple would have automatically imported it
Not so fast
As one who has used iPhoto from the earliest versions, I haven't had any problems with it, even though some of my libraries are quite large. In fact, I am still using iPhoto '09, because there were some changes in iPhoto '11 that I just couldn't adjust to, especially as far as getting photo information and editing. And NOT all photos are taken with an iPhone! While I am not an advanced photographer, I do appreciate the advantages of a compact camera (with REAL zoom) over the iPhone. Using iPhoto in conjunction with Adobe Elements gives me a good organizing app along with a good editing app. And, because my internet connection isn't particularly fast, I prefer to keep photos local (and properly backed up). We shall see how Photos compares. I hope Apple provides a free upgrade from iPhoto or I will probably not even try it.
As one who has used iPhoto from the earliest versions, I haven't had any problems with it, even though some of my libraries are quite large. In fact, I am still using iPhoto '09, because there were some changes in iPhoto '11 that I just couldn't adjust to, especially as far as getting photo information and editing. And NOT all photos are taken with an iPhone! While I am not an advanced photographer, I do appreciate the advantages of a compact camera (with REAL zoom) over the iPhone. Using iPhoto in conjunction with Adobe Elements gives me a good organizing app along with a good editing app. And, because my internet connection isn't particularly fast, I prefer to keep photos local (and properly backed up). We shall see how Photos compares. I hope Apple provides a free upgrade from iPhoto or I will probably not even try it.
Moving images from iPhoto to Photos?
I'm excited about the new Photos app, but am concerned about making this change with a 300GB+ library.
I'd like to create a new Photos library and slowly move images from my old iPhoto library to the new one.
Can anyone see if you have the option of somehow moving groups of images between apps/libraries?
If not, does Photos appear to keep all Events intact? Are they now albums?
Thanks,
Doug
I'm excited about the new Photos app, but am concerned about making this change with a 300GB+ library.
I'd like to create a new Photos library and slowly move images from my old iPhoto library to the new one.
Can anyone see if you have the option of somehow moving groups of images between apps/libraries?
If not, does Photos appear to keep all Events intact? Are they now albums?
Thanks,
Doug
I agree. I will continue to use Lightroom for my Nikon RAW and edited images and back those up locally and to OneDrive (with 10TB of available space as part of the family Office 365 subscription). From Lightroom, I can print, send to printing services, share directly to various Facebook albums, or export and then import into Photos.app (if I want a picture in my iCloud libary).
But I am looking forward to an improved experience for our iPhone photos. My wife and I both have iPhones now, so we have an increasing number of iPhone photos to manage in addition to the Nikon DSLR images.
File as early as possible, you do not know how many beta updates Apple will do. There's a very good chance 10.10.3 could be a very small update and it could be released in a few weeks with no actual changes to OS X, just to release Photos.app. I'm basing this on the fact that the media got access to the app, which means Apple feels it is ready to go now.
Did Apple give you any indiction that it is indexing, syncing or anything like that? If not, then it is a performance issue and should be filed now, not later. Do not make a decision yourself, Apple's QA team can determine for themselves if it is by design or it needs to be fixed.
I always file early as possible. By the time Apple actually got to my report, 2-3 betas already went through with no changes. After Apple got my reports, they did in fact fix some bugs that appeared in 2 beta updates afterward. Although, lately Apple has been closing most of my reports as a dupe.
I work in QA/CS, I can tell you that some developers and QA folks prefer to get 1000 early reports about silly little things than to get them later. We can use these to plan out the development and focus on critical issues before cleaning up the rest.
A lot of the functions the Pros say are missing are either available via a different method or are something Apple is calling on developers to fill the void on. Photos.app provides a healthy set of tools and for more advanced and specialized tools, extensions will step in.
Some pros are lamenting the disappearance of the loop tool. Why use a loop when you can pinch to zoom to have a look and pull back once you're done? Photos.app is lightening fast. Gestures have obsoleted many old ways of doing things.
For those missing the brush-in adjustments, this is something that I expect will be provided by extensions. I expect that Pixelmator — which has always worked closely with Apple — will have an extension to give you a round trip on non-destructive editing for photos that require it. Given Pixelmator's close relationship with Apple, their extension is more likely than any other to be available on day one.
Where I think there is reason to pause on migrating a professional workflow to Photos.app is in storage and project management. Storing everything on the operating system hard drive is extremely limiting for pros who deal with terabytes of photos. I'd like to see referenced files brought back to deal with this. Let the OS hard drive maintain the jpegs but let us select where we'd like to store the RAW files (an external drive).
Some pros are lamenting the disappearance of the loop tool. Why use a loop when you can pinch to zoom to have a look and pull back once you're done? Photos.app is lightening fast. Gestures have obsoleted many old ways of doing things.
For those missing the brush-in adjustments, this is something that I expect will be provided by extensions. I expect that Pixelmator — which has always worked closely with Apple — will have an extension to give you a round trip on non-destructive editing for photos that require it. Given Pixelmator's close relationship with Apple, their extension is more likely than any other to be available on day one.
Where I think there is reason to pause on migrating a professional workflow to Photos.app is in storage and project management. Storing everything on the operating system hard drive is extremely limiting for pros who deal with terabytes of photos. I'd like to see referenced files brought back to deal with this. Let the OS hard drive maintain the jpegs but let us select where we'd like to store the RAW files (an external drive).
what a joke, Apple dose not seem to care about pro users these days....
Considering they make about 70% of their money off iPhone we're lucky they even make traditional computers anymore. Also I'm a photographer and I don't know any other "pro users" what mess with Aperture. There's a lot of better programs out there, so this might be the best thing that ever happened to you.
My first impressions are pretty great as well. Photos is super fast, especially during scrolling, and opening up from cold boot.
From what I have heard you can easily store masters on your computer as well and back them up however much you want, you just don't have to waste the space if you don't want to. Sounds food to me.
No. Yes.
Yes. It will ask you if you want to open with Aperture or Photos. Edits do not transfer between them after the original import (because it's a separate library).
It does this.
It does. Select the library in Finder and open it. It gets converted automatically.
FOLDERS!
Can someone please try to create folders for albums. There is a picture of one in the Verge article, but that is a major feature of Aperture.
I understand events/projects are gone; however, if albums can be sorted into different folders that might be okay.
So can folders be created for albums?
Can someone please try to create folders for albums. There is a picture of one in the Verge article, but that is a major feature of Aperture.
I understand events/projects are gone; however, if albums can be sorted into different folders that might be okay.
So can folders be created for albums?
A lot of iPhoto hate in here.
I've used iPhoto since it came out and has been a great organizational tool for my photos. My library is around 95GB's now and my wifes' is around 70GB's.
It's a basic built in to the OS tool that allows you to organize photos w/out much effort. It always has been. Sure they've added features over the years but it hasn't changed all that much.
I use it for basic importing, organization via albums, projects, face tagging, locations, etc. I have iCloud on, Facebook linked, photo stream running, slideshows with stuff in it, etc. I have also done plenty of basic editing on it over the years. Nowadays I have it set to automatically load up Pixelmator when I click edit within iPhoto (which is another great feature of it).
I've only had one issue with iPhoto ever; during an import after taking my kids to the fair (in 2010) the pics got corrupted. I didn't pay attention and had deleted them off the camera before I realized it so I lost the good copies. That's the only issue I've ever had.
Now if you are running multi-hundred GB libraries as a pro photographer for projects it will bog down. That's the way iPhoto is built. It loads it all up. You should be creating separate iPhoto libraries for every project so that you don't run into this problem and loading them up as needed. iPhoto is definitely slower with a lot of photos than with very few b/c of this. But it is EASY to have multiple-libraries that are organized with whatever name you want (like a folder).
With all that being said; I do hope Photos is a good app and will replace iPhoto. I just hope they keep iPhoto going for a little while as all the bugs in Photo get ironed out before completely abandoning iPhoto.
I've used iPhoto since it came out and has been a great organizational tool for my photos. My library is around 95GB's now and my wifes' is around 70GB's.
It's a basic built in to the OS tool that allows you to organize photos w/out much effort. It always has been. Sure they've added features over the years but it hasn't changed all that much.
I use it for basic importing, organization via albums, projects, face tagging, locations, etc. I have iCloud on, Facebook linked, photo stream running, slideshows with stuff in it, etc. I have also done plenty of basic editing on it over the years. Nowadays I have it set to automatically load up Pixelmator when I click edit within iPhoto (which is another great feature of it).
I've only had one issue with iPhoto ever; during an import after taking my kids to the fair (in 2010) the pics got corrupted. I didn't pay attention and had deleted them off the camera before I realized it so I lost the good copies. That's the only issue I've ever had.
Now if you are running multi-hundred GB libraries as a pro photographer for projects it will bog down. That's the way iPhoto is built. It loads it all up. You should be creating separate iPhoto libraries for every project so that you don't run into this problem and loading them up as needed. iPhoto is definitely slower with a lot of photos than with very few b/c of this. But it is EASY to have multiple-libraries that are organized with whatever name you want (like a folder).
With all that being said; I do hope Photos is a good app and will replace iPhoto. I just hope they keep iPhoto going for a little while as all the bugs in Photo get ironed out before completely abandoning iPhoto.
How long before the forum is full of tales of woe about missing Photos i wonder. Whatever you do Back them up somewhere else as well as the Cloud. I never used iPhoto but i know people who did and the horrible ? mark appeared far to often where a photo used to exist i hope for all the users of "photos" that there have been some major improvements. EDIT: Two minutes ago looking at the post above mine.
it was actually very "Apple" but 10 years ago.. it just failed to evolve at the same pace as the rest of the ecosystem.
According to these forums they haven't cared for over a decade now. When will they start caring again!what a joke, Apple dose not seem to care about pro users these days....
Actually, you can have referenced files. But storage and project management as well as import/export are very poor. An no plugins work at least for now (I've got Nik and Photomatix Pro as well as Photoshop). Will these be available as extensions?