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Lightroom & CaptureOne kick Apertures butt, so Apple abandons the Pro market completely, ignores even the Prosumer market, and creates an app for teenagers posting selfies on Facebook.

And then charges a subscription fee to use it...

okidoki then.

A subscription? Maybe I haven't been following this as much as I should. We have to pay to use Photos?

I'm going to miss iPhoto...
 
For Pros? Probably not.

Unless there's a Pro-centric version coming soon I'm incredibly disinterested and disappointed. I LOVE Aperture and continue to use it despite most ppl falling for Lightroom.. which I really don't like. I guess I'll just continue to use it until something better comes along.

FYI Apple I really need to manage client projects (not iCloud family iPhone Pics) make customized books / albums, brush in adjustments, meta-tag, watermark custom exports, etc.. etc.. i.e. a New :apple: Aperture please.
 
What makes the modern iCloud such a poor cloud service? Echo chamber mentality?

I am stupid, I guess. I got excited about it initially, signed up for a mid-tier plan (200gb, I think), then turned on Family Sharing and thought, Wow, now I can finally view my photos on Apple TV without jumping through hoops.

Nope! iCloud is limited in so many ways: you can't actually share space with your significant other for anything but photos. Like backing up her iPhone (64gb). The phone keeps asking her to upgrade. Or how about consolidating all my photos on iCloud? Nope, not that easy. How about putting other stuff, like random files and sharing them with my "Family?" Nope, Apple doesn't want me to do that either.

So, I cancelled iCloud. I have DropBox Pro, DriveOne (5tb for $99 per year, plus access to the Office Suite!) and Google Drive. Oh, and I have or have tried stuff like PopDrive, Box, etc..

Based on my experience with all of these, iCloud is the worst of them all, and expensive to boot.

So, you tell me why you think it's so great?

As far as iPhoto, its database got corrupted a few years ago and I lost metadata for all of my old photos. I don't like the way the database is structured and I would take a lot for me to trust it again.
 
I don't consider my self a pro user, but the reason I bought Aperture was because it had powerful organizing tools for a very reasonable price. Folders containing projects divided into albums was my PERFECT setup! Pleeaase make this in the Photos App. I don't need the editing tools, I just need to keep track of tens of thousands of photos in another way than automatically putting them in weird moments etc.
 
I have an almost 400 GB iPhoto library. If they are actually removing the split library function and the new management abilities for large libraries aren't MAGICAL, then this freaking thing is DOA.

I have the hardest time fathoming why Apple doesn't support the very thing they seem to want - people to use Macs for years. That means big photo libraries and you had better provide the means to manage them effectively.
 
Too busy

Reminds me of that horrible screen saver with the Windows logo on Win 95.
 
I'm reading that export features are crippled which will stop me using this. I need the ability to bulk export a number of images to a specific image size and rename them with a numerical sequence.
Why Apple, why?
 
Couple questions...

-Can you use Photos.app completely without iCloud? As in, everything stored 100% locally?
-How about tags/keywords? I use those heavily. Can I also add or remove tags/keywords to pictures inside Photos.app?

Thanks!
 
Ugh, seems like they really did target camera phone users at the expense of professionals. Guess I'm going to have to stick with Aperture for the time being and then look at transitioning to Lightroom at some point down the line.
 
I'm reading that export features are crippled which will stop me using this. I need the ability to bulk export a number of images to a specific image size and rename them with a numerical sequence.
Why Apple, why?

You can do everything you just said :)

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Couple questions...

-Can you use Photos.app completely without iCloud? As in, everything stored 100% locally?
-How about tags/keywords? I use those heavily. Can I also add or remove tags/keywords to pictures inside Photos.app?

Thanks!

-Yes
-Yes
 
I have an almost 400 GB iPhoto library. If they are actually removing the split library function and the new management abilities for large libraries aren't MAGICAL, then this freaking thing is DOA.

I have the hardest time fathoming why Apple doesn't support the very thing they seem to want - people to use Macs for years. That means big photo libraries and you had better provide the means to manage them effectively.

Seriously. I take a ton of photos for work, but I don't want those intermingling with my personal shots.
 
Does it have the ability to have folders then projects? Also smart albums?

I organize my library by year then month you see...
 

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Faces is still there.

Unfortunately, you can't edit the drop pin of locations of photos. and you can't see all pictures one map like you could with iPhoto.

I don't mind staying with iPhoto if the finished version of Photos isn't as good. Aperture 3 was a total catastrophe when it came out. Apple's reputation now is to stay away for six months since their software results don't seem to match all the blah, blah, blah smoke they blow into our private areas at announcement.
 
Importing from iPhoto?

I had my iPhoto library on an external had drive.

How do I import an entire library into the new Photos app?
 
Is it still usable without iCloud? My iPhoto library is huge and already backed up with Time Machine and Backblaze, so I'm not planning on paying for a premium iCloud account to sync everything.

I hope there is a way to backup the cloud locally. I would hate to lose my photos or have a corrupted library.

I see a lot of conversation about "cloud syncing", iCloud, etc. in this post. What about those of us who do not want our photos in the cloud. Will the traditional USB sync/drag and drop/local file storage framework of iPhoto still be allowed? Will it be prominent?

Yes and yes and yes. Photo works without iCloud. But why you opt not to use iCloud? Just curious, because in my experience, I find iCloud has been tremendously improved. Much superior to the other cloud services including Google.
 
Looks nice, but...

Looks nice, but do I have to keep all of my photos in the cloud? What if I like to have my main library on my Mac at home? If I can't do that, this is a huge turn off.
 
Definitely not my experience. Buggy, slow, frequently out of sync and very frustrating to use. Much less reliable than other services.

That used to be case for me just couple of months ago, but it seems to have been fixed recently. Anything that i edit on one computer will now get propagated to all my other devices immediately(well, immediately as far as cloud syncing can get).
 
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