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First Intel Penryn Based PCs Arrive... Apple to Follow?

That's What Sample Chips are For

liv4Mac said:
Ok, Penryn chips will be available on nov 11th. Motherboards and memory chips I assume are also ready. what about the unit as a whole?

The clovertown 8 core Mac Pros were out early because Apple just slipped it into their existing Mac Pros.

Since they have to build from ground up, do you guys really think that these Penryn based Mac Pros will be ready by Nov 13 just a couple of days after the release of these Penryn chips?
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Obviously the various manufacturers have had samples in-house for their design teams to work with for months. The article I posted above showed Intel's own benchmarks of produced chips in April.

I would guess that Apple will open the store and take orders on Nov. 13, with 1st shipments set for 6 weeks or so after that. As I recall that is pretty much SOP for them.
 
diamond.g said:
Yeah, pretty sure nvidia's linux drivers are fine. I am not sure why Apple just doens't use those.
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You just can't compile a linux driver and have it magically work as a kernel extension in OS X. You actually end up rewriting most of the code anyway. (This is probably one reason why you don't see more linux osx86 hackers messing around with OS X on non-Apple hardware.... but that's a subject for another thread.)
 
Setmose said:
Obviously the various manufacturers have had samples in-house for their design teams to work with for months. The article I posted above showed Intel's own benchmarks of produced chips in April.

I would guess that Apple will open the store and take orders on Nov. 13, with 1st shipments set for 6 weeks or so after that. As I recall that is pretty much SOP for them.
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I certainly hope so, because I skipped the Clovertown 8 cores to wait for this and I'm ready to order. Although 6 months is quite a wait.
 
AidenShaw said:
Wild-Bill said:
It was reported on several websites three weeks ago that Apple was placing large orders for Intel Harpertown Xeons...
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Report ;) ?

There was a rumour from one source that was copied on several Mac sites - nothing confirmed or even second-sourced.
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So what's your point? One of the definitions of "reported" is "To relate or tell about."

It should be clear in context that Wild-Bill was responding to someone's comment that their have been no rumors about Mac Pros. He was relating or telling about one rumor.

Oh, and you might be interested in one of the definitions of report: "Common talk; rumor or gossip: According to report, they eloped."
 
Setmose said:
Obviously the various manufacturers have had samples in-house for their design teams to work with for months. The article I posted above showed Intel's own benchmarks of produced chips in April.

I would guess that Apple will open the store and take orders on Nov. 13, with 1st shipments set for 6 weeks or so after that. As I recall that is pretty much SOP for them.
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Either that or Apple will debut the new Mac Pro at MWSF in January 2008. My guess is that Apple will wait until MWSF to offer the Penryn Mac Pro but it might be available for immediate delivery.
 
AidenShaw said:
If I were to decide to buy a bunch of the HPs - it would probably be mid-December before I could get the config info, get quotes, get approval from finance, and issue a Purchase Order to HP.

Your comment might make sense for the consumer systems sitting on Best Buy shelves, but HP is doing the right thing for my planning and purchasing process.
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That's assuming they are actually able to deliver when they promise. If they can't, then what they're doing is worse than not announcing early.
 
maybe apple is just doing some final comparisons of penryn to the 4.7 ghz power6 cpu from ibm. you know, just to make ibm feel better now that apple has a higher market capitalization.

you knew someone would bring up ibm.


thedudeabides
 
SirOmega said:
Don't forget that there were rumors a while back about Apple paying big bucks to secure top speed Penryn chips to ensure it had sufficient quantity. Thats the kinds of things Apple is doing with that $15B cashpile it has - paying up front to ensure it gets first crack at the newest fastest chips. Its probably why HP and Lenovo aren't shipping until January - Apple gets most of the penryn xeons until then.
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Good point, cash is king. Most of these deals are done by payments 25% up front, 25% during tooling and 50% on delivery. Something like that, so with AAPL rocking the stock market and lots of cash, they could potentially pay say 75% up front thus taking up the first production batches. Interesting how the tables have turned in 10years.
 
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Originally Posted by SirOmega
Don't forget that there were rumors a while back about Apple paying big bucks to secure top speed Penryn chips to ensure it had sufficient quantity. Thats the kinds of things Apple is doing with that $15B cashpile it has - paying up front to ensure it gets first crack at the newest fastest chips. Its probably why HP and Lenovo aren't shipping until January - Apple gets most of the penryn xeons until then.

bradc said:
Good point, cash is king. Most of these deals are done by payments 25% up front, 25% during tooling and 50% on delivery. Something like that, so with AAPL rocking the stock market and lots of cash, they could potentially pay say 75% up front thus taking up the first production batches. Interesting how the tables have turned in 10years.
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Very true, that's why I am confident we will see the new MacPro's this year.
Apple has been working on it for awhile and they will be probably be ready to ship next week.
 
liv4Mac said:
The clovertown 8 core Mac Pros were out early because Apple just slipped it into their existing Mac Pros.
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Apple could have slipped quad Clovertowns into their existing Mac Pros in December 2006 like the other vendors.

Putting them in five months later in May 2007 isn't what I'd call "out early" ;)
 
Setmose said:
Good eye!

Cut straight from Amazon:

Purchase by: Postmarked by: Rebate amount:

11/12/07 12/12/07 $150.00

Total Rebate Savings: $150.00
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Amazon is just speculating like we are...they have no info, in fact they made mistakes earlier on in speculating the release of iWork and iLife 08...
 
Originally Posted by Roy
And now I know the full story. Thanks for filling in all the holes you left in your original post.
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darwen said:
Arguing online is sorta like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you still are retarded.
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It was a request for more information on the previous post. And you do see where I said "Thanks".:)
 
AidenShaw said:
When has Apple announced any new design from Intel even on the same day as the other manufacturers? Those days aren't "gone", they never existed except as a fanboy myth.

The only thing that even comes close is that 5 months after other manufacturers were shipping quad Clovertowns, Apple started shipping Clovertowns that were one notch faster than the top published speed. Not a new design, just a faster bin.

Later, of course, we find out that Apple is using older 150 watt versions of the Clovertown - and that the other vendors passed on using that chip and waited for the faster, cooler 120 watt "G0 stepping" version. Also note that the 150 watt chips were available from some of the smaller vendors at about the same time as Apple.

Other dates:

Yonah - Apple announced a week after most of the other vendors.

Merom - How about http://digg.com/apple/MacBook_Pro_NO...ntel_Marketing

Woodcrest - Intel announces 26 June, Apple releases Mac Pro 7 August

Conroe/Kentsfield - Apple missing in action
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AidenShaw said:
http://support.apple.com/specs/

MWSF 2006 - MacBook Pro announced
MWSF 2004 - Xserve G5 and Xserve RAID (SFP) announced
MWSF 2003 - PowerBook G4 announced
MWSF 2001 - PowerMac G4 and PowerBook G4 announced
MWSF 1999 - PowerMac G3 announced

It looks like the pattern is every other year for a Pro announcement - so MWSF 2008 is due!
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Thanks for the recap on Apple history.

Not that the posts are anything new from you. ;)

I can't wait to see what Apple has in store for November 13th if anything at all. They should be happy I bought my MacBook though.
 
man

they need to hurry up I need a new mac soon, I been using this piece of S**T for 7years.
I hope the new mac pros come out nov 12th, or Im :eek:a kill someone.
 
My G4 is starting to die. It's been a very good servent over the year, it's done 2 degrees worth of work plus 4 years of relatively heavy deign use. I need a new MacPro.

Pleae Apple give us a new Workstation.
 
I will buy a mac pro on friday i am tierd to wait anyway the guess the price will be expensive as soon they put the news one and also i dont think than the macbook pro of 1.999 have more than 2,4 GHz :p or what do you guys recomend me to do? since if i buy on friday i will buy a macbook pro else i will only be able to buy after a macbook
 
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