First iPhone 7 Plus in the wild caught??

[Floris]

Whats funny is they used to be all "android is awesome, you can do this blah blah blah".

I actually had a person today that now is on Android, and I asked why. She said "I love taking Pictures and when my iPhone broke the other day I was told the camera on this Android was twice as good as the iPhone". She says she has no issues with her Android and does not mind using it. Since it was only a day or so that she got a new phone, I am sure real world situations will present her and I will start getting questions like 'why doesn't it do this!' etc. I think a sales man telling her it's twice as good, .. is pure misinformation, but that's why I don't use KPN in the NL.

 

[5105973]

I actually had a person today that now is on Android, and I asked why. She said "I love taking Pictures and when my iPhone broke the other day I was told the camera on this Android was twice as good as the iPhone". She says she has no issues with her Android and does not mind using it. Since it was only a day or so that she got a new phone, I am sure real world situations will present her and I will start getting questions like 'why doesn't it do this!' etc. I think a sales man telling her it's twice as good, .. is pure misinformation, but that's why I don't use KPN in the NL.

It depends on what precisely she was told about the camera. And which Android phone she was sold.

My move to Android has been made relatively painless thanks to the advice and help of members of this forum who have used both iOS and Android for years. I hope your friend is able to find such help because Android can be enjoyable if a newbie gets the right guidance.

It can also be quite a fright. My husband downloaded some app that caused pop up ads to pop up all over his Note 7 home screen. Fortunately he's savvy and thought it was funny and will kill it when he finds the troublemaker. If it had happened to me I'd be pooping a brick! I've been more cautious than he about what I put on my Note 7. Hubby doesn't really care. He is just experimenting.

 

[Floris]

It depends on what precisely she was told about the camera. And which Android phone she was sold.

My move to Android has been made relatively painless thanks to the advice and help of members of this forum who have used both iOS and Android for years. I hope your friend is able to find such help because Android can be enjoyable if a newbie gets the right guidance.

It can also be quite a fright. My husband downloaded some app that caused pop up ads to pop up all over his Note 7 home screen. Fortunately he's savvy and thought it was funny and will kill it when he finds the troublemaker. If it had happened to me I'd be pooping a brick! I've been more cautious than he about what I put on my Note 7. Hubby doesn't really care. He is just experimenting.

Indeed, and valid points. I hope she stays safe and picks the right apps from the app store rather than the unofficial backdoored spammy ones.

Anyway, I thought it was at least worth the mention that it's not only Android running to iPhone, but obviously that it goes the other way around. But in my experience, that was a first time that happened. Almost all Androiders end up with Apple. Even the ones that stick to their Android phone, their tablet or laptop eventually becomes Apple

 

[Zaft]

I actually had a person today that now is on Android, and I asked why. She said "I love taking Pictures and when my iPhone broke the other day I was told the camera on this Android was twice as good as the iPhone". She says she has no issues with her Android and does not mind using it. Since it was only a day or so that she got a new phone, I am sure real world situations will present her and I will start getting questions like 'why doesn't it do this!' etc. I think a sales man telling her it's twice as good, .. is pure misinformation, but that's why I don't use KPN in the NL.

I worked at Radio Shack a while back during college. We made commission on phones, we all would make up anything for a sale...

 

[boltjames]

Then don't let your kids use or have an iPhone

No, more like Apple should want to grow their iPhone business and recognize the direct impact their enhancements cost their users indirectly through carriers.

Automatic app updates, automatic iOS updates, Apple Music, HDR photos, now stereophonic photos or 3D or whatever, sounds like HD audio is coming, it's awesome that the hardware has these capabilities but Apple doesn't make it simple to shut the stuff off before you get hit with a whopping data bill. It's the little things like this that Apple doesn't think about and it's the little things like this that pile up and make me not want to get the next iteration of a camera that's already good enough.

BJ

 

[Dave245]

No, more like Apple should want to grow their iPhone business and recognize the direct impact their enhancements cost their users indirectly through carriers.

Automatic app updates, automatic iOS updates, Apple Music, HDR photos, now stereophonic photos or 3D or whatever, sounds like HD audio is coming, it's awesome that the hardware has these capabilities but Apple doesn't make it simple to shut the stuff off before you get hit with a whopping data bill. It's the little things like this that Apple doesn't think about and it's the little things like this that pile up and make me not want to get the next iteration of a camera that's already good enough.

BJ

But it's not Apple's job or their responsibility to babysit your children, their have been cases that have been on the news, where children have run up BIG bills on their parents iPhones and iPads, that's the PARENTS responsibility and not Apple's! Their devices are not toys for children to play around with. If you want apps to use less data then just change some of the settings, for example you can turn off automatic downloads. The camera might be good enough, but Apple will always want to make it better and the dual lens will certainly do that.

 

[lah]

No, just tired of the same looking phone going into the 3rd year, I love Apple but for the next 12 months I wanted something that looks better but has some actual innovation. A dual camera is not enough to make me want to drop $$$ for.

I don't think you're going to see original iPhone style innovation from any manufacturer for a long time. There is only so much you can do with today's consumer technology. Personally I'm pleased with the incremental steps that both iOS and Android have taken that have lead to two stable and vibrant platforms. No point throwing the kitchen sink at it when it's not usable in a day-to-day environment.

 

[Fuchal]

Looks like the guy just has a frosted case on an iPhone 6.

 

[5105973]

No, more like Apple should want to grow their iPhone business and recognize the direct impact their enhancements cost their users indirectly through carriers.

Automatic app updates, automatic iOS updates, Apple Music, HDR photos, now stereophonic photos or 3D or whatever, sounds like HD audio is coming, it's awesome that the hardware has these capabilities but Apple doesn't make it simple to shut the stuff off before you get hit with a whopping data bill. It's the little things like this that Apple doesn't think about and it's the little things like this that pile up and make me not want to get the next iteration of a camera that's already good enough.

BJ

Don't your family members use their devices on home wifi? I know everyone has their internet set up differently. Depending on where you live cellular data may be the only option for internet connectivity.

But if your family is going to be consuming a lot of data, and you're living where you can get good fiber optic data service, it saves you those whopping cellular data bills if you and your family can stream over the home wifi setup.

When we are going to be away from home, we make playlists of songs and movies saved locally to the device's storage. We do that even though we had an unlimited plan right up to today. Lol, my husband just killed that plan because we never use that much cellular data and he could save $150 a month switching us to a shared data plan.

 

[boltjames]

But it's not Apple's job or their responsibility to babysit your children, their have been cases that have been on the news, where children have run up BIG bills on their parents iPhones and iPads, that's the PARENTS responsibility and not Apple's! Their devices are not toys for children to play around with. If you want apps to use less data then just change some of the settings, for example you can turn off automatic downloads. The camera might be good enough, but Apple will always want to make it better and the dual lens will certainly do that.

Get off your soapbox and listen to what I am saying.

If Apple were to create hardware that optimized the amount of data transmitted to a carrier instead of focusing on super high-quality that no one needs or appreciates it would be a better way to sell more iPhones to a certain segment of the population.

If Apple wants to create a dual lens phone protocol that uses twice as much data per photo as it does now, that's great. But they should be thinking about the impact of their decisions on the people who actually pay the cellular phone bills each month. It's hard enough to justify an iPhone 7 over an iPhone 6. The fact that it could theoretically double my daughters data usage for Snapchat selfie's would cost Apple a sale.

BJ

 

[5105973]

Get off your soapbox and listen to what I am saying.

If Apple were to create hardware that optimized the amount of data transmitted to a carrier instead of focusing on super high-quality that no one needs or appreciates it would be a better way to sell more iPhones to a certain segment of the population.

If Apple wants to create a dual lens phone protocol that uses twice as much data per photo as it does now, that's great. But they should be thinking about the impact of their decisions on the people who actually pay the cellular phone bills each month. It's hard enough to justify an iPhone 7 over an iPhone 6. The fact that it could theoretically double my daughters data usage for Snapchat selfie's would cost Apple a sale.

BJ

Then the logical option is simply don't buy your kids a dual lens iPhone. According to the rumors that feature is reserved for the IPhone 7 plus version anyway, which is a very expensive phone to be buying for children or teens or even our college aged kids. The SE will still be around a good long while. We even got ours relatively cheap after trading in older iPhones.

Also, HDR is easy to turn off. Live photo is easy to turn off. Settings are very easy to adjust so you don't use cellular data, especially not on things like updates.

ps I'm not on a soapbox either. Just trying to help. I've been all about deals and bargains myself lately. Some of the gear in my signature were purchased on steep discounts or part of deals. My latest smart watch was free.

 

[boltjames]

Then the logical option is simply don't buy your kids a dual lens iPhone. According to the rumors that feature is reserved for the IPhone 7 plus version anyway, which is a very expensive phone to be buying for children or teens or even our college aged kids. The SE will still be around a good long while. We even got ours relatively cheap after trading in older iPhones.

Also, HDR is easy to turn off. Live photo is easy to turn off. Settings are very easy to adjust so you don't use cellular data, especially not on things like updates.

ps I'm not on a soapbox either. Just trying to help. I've been all about deals and bargains myself lately. Some of the gear in my signature were purchased on steep discounts or part of deals. My latest smart watch was free.

I think something that's missing here is that I fully understand the capabilities of the iPhone, how to configure it for data consumption, am a good parent, etc.

My point is that advances in hardware features are fine but if in order for them to be fully utilized it's going to cost owners more money at point of purchase, with our monthly plans, and with data overages, then Apple's strategy is flawed. And seeing that Apple's never-ending primary focus is to improve the stupid camera they'd better take this into account seriously, doubly-seriously if they intend to create a new HD audio standard concurrently.

BJ

 

[Dave245]

I think something that's missing here is that I fully understand the capabilities of the iPhone, how to configure it for data consumption, am a good parent, etc.

My point is that advances in hardware features are fine but if in order for them to be fully utilized it's going to cost owners more money at point of purchase, with our monthly plans, and with data overages, then Apple's strategy is flawed. And seeing that Apple's never-ending primary focus is to improve the stupid camera they'd better take this into account seriously, doubly-seriously if they intend to create a new HD audio standard concurrently.

BJ

I don't understand how it's costing you more money? Maybe it's because I buy my phones outright from Apple on the day of release? Meaning I'm not on contract, but pay as you go. The way I understand it is that you can turn certain data features off.

 

[off_piste]

I think something that's missing here is that I fully understand the capabilities of the iPhone, how to configure it for data consumption, am a good parent, etc.

My point is that advances in hardware features are fine but if in order for them to be fully utilized it's going to cost owners more money at point of purchase, with our monthly plans, and with data overages, then Apple's strategy is flawed. And seeing that Apple's never-ending primary focus is to improve the stupid camera they'd better take this into account seriously, doubly-seriously if they intend to create a new HD audio standard concurrently.

BJ

Cameras get better with almost every phone iteration of every manufacturer and I've never experienced a data problem. Wifi is more comprehensive than ever. If you haven't noticed carriers are increasing data caps over time too. Your post sounds like a lot of meritless whining to me.

 

[zulugod]

Interesting. Makes me glad I went ahead and ordered the Note 7 if this is legit, clearly shows nothing amazing for this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/24/new-iphone-7-iphone7-plus-photos/#5184efa2505c

It's just a dummy / display phone - not the real thing. I have bought a few from China recently.

 

[5105973]

I think something that's missing here is that I fully understand the capabilities of the iPhone, how to configure it for data consumption, am a good parent, etc.

My point is that advances in hardware features are fine but if in order for them to be fully utilized it's going to cost owners more money at point of purchase, with our monthly plans, and with data overages, then Apple's strategy is flawed. And seeing that Apple's never-ending primary focus is to improve the stupid camera they'd better take this into account seriously, doubly-seriously if they intend to create a new HD audio standard concurrently.

BJ

Sorry, I thought your problem was with your daughter potentially going over data limits on Snapchat, specifically, if she were to get the new iPhone 7 plus with dual cameras. That seemed to be your concern.

I wish I could say I think I understand your point somewhat better now that you've clarified. But I'm still not clear on how having a better camera is causing a problem for everyone to the point we can declare Apple's strategy flawed.

Take people like myself, who rely on the smartphone camera to document the daily nuances and special moments of family life because it's the camera that's always on me, I'm going to want the best quality images I can get from it to record precious memories beautifully. If I then decide to share these images on social media, I can very easily batch process them to smaller file size copies. Some social media sites impose their own data compression.

I know kids and Snapchat are another box of beans, but the fact is if I started seeing data usage jump over our limits the ban hammer would go down on the kids on whatever usage was causing the overage. That's long been standard operating procedure for parents anyway through generations of spec bumps on phones besides Apple's.

Heck, that was standard operating procedure back when I was a teenager tying up my parents' landline. After awhile I thought my name was "Gettoffthegadammedphone".

The harsh reality is they may indeed lose your business. I get that. There were things I wanted that Apple hasn't provided so they lost some of my business to Samsung this time around. You are right, while Apple makes their devices skinny they have never shown an inclination to scale back on file sizes for their pics or audio or the size of their OS.

They have long had a premium image and are going after the audiophiles and the pixel peepers. They've pretty much left it to Android to cover devices with lower specced cameras. I don't know enough to comment on the impact of the new audio standards
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It's just a dummy / display phone - not the real thing. I have bought a few from China recently.

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Oh the mischief you could cause and the fun you could have with these and a fake blog!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I keep seeing all these articles on the iPhone 7 and have just watched the 'unbox therapy' mockup vid, and if these are accurate, I am wondering why this year is a worthy upgrade? I know the camera keeps being mentioned but that has never been my main reason for choosing a phone. The camera on my iPhone 6 is plenty good enough for what I use it for.

The aesthetics look pretty much the same as we are used to with the iPhone 6 with a slightly different camera lens and the antenna bands moved to the edge. When you put your phone in a case it doesn't really distinguish the two.

My service provider has offered me the iPhone 6S for £28p/m with no additional cost to the handset so it's looking more and more likely i'll get that. I'm struggling this time around to justify £1000+ for a contract where the phone isn't offering a significant advantage? Obvious the launch could bring something massive we don't know about but the last few releases have been very close to the rumour mills pre launch. We'll see....

 

[Dave245]

Seems like invites are starting to go out Apple just sent out invites for its big iPhone 7 event on September 7th - BGR https://apple.news/AK9RcCOeoMEuT8C5_tCG0gA

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I mean what's a massive leap in camera performance when you could have it in a different style of phone right?

It's fine that you don't want to buy the new phone, you don't have to, but the logic of your post makes no sense whatsoever. We're about to see Apple leap ahead yet again with the A10, but hey if it still looks like an iPhone that we know what's the point right?

His post makes perfect sense to me as I'm in the exact same position. It's a lot of money and I'm struggling when assessing all the leaks as to what is a significant leap? A faster chip is not a deal breaker for me and neither is a better camera. I don't want to commit to an incremental upgrade which costs me over £1000 over the next 2 years. I also don't want to go back to android as I enjoy the primary features in iOS. I also fancied a larger screen this time but the form factor is still huge on the plus from what has been leaked.


It's looking disappointing and this is the first time I've felt that.

 

[The Game 161]

His post makes perfect sense to me as I'm in the exact same position. It's a lot of money and I'm struggling when assessing all the leaks as to what is a significant leap? A faster chip is not a deal breaker for me and neither is a better camera. I don't want to commit to an incremental upgrade which costs me over £1000 over the next 2 years. I also don't want to go back to android as I enjoy the primary features in iOS. I also fancied a larger screen this time but the form factor is still huge on the plus from what has been leaked.


It's looking disappointing and this is the first time I've felt that.

i would suggest just keeping your 6s plus if you aren't impressed with the 7. for me to upgrade a space black or blue would be needed plus additional features for me to upgrade. Camera will be key for me and how good that is. Otherwise will keep my 6s plus.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

i would suggest just keeping your 6s plus if you aren't impressed with the 7. for me to upgrade a space black or blue would be needed plus additional features for me to upgrade. Camera will be key for me and how good that is. Otherwise will keep my 6s plus.

I haven't got a 6S Plus, I've got a 6. The Plus is too big in its present guise and I was hoping for Apple to focus innovation on that side of things. If the new Plus was smaller I might consider but everything is pointing at it remaining huge.

I might just nip this in the bud and upgrade to a 6S today then at least I don't have to worry about it beyond that.

 

[The Game 161]

I haven't got a 6S Plus, I've got a 6. The Plus is too big in its present guise and I was hoping for Apple to focus innovation on that side of things. If the new Plus was smaller I might consider but everything is pointing at it remaining huge.

I might just nip this in the bud and upgrade to a 6S today then at least I don't have to worry about it beyond that.

I wouldn't upgrade to a 6s until the 7 is out. From a cost standpoint if anything

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I wouldn't upgrade to a 6s until the 7 is out. From a cost standpoint if anything

Yeah that's true, although I can get the device free as an upgrade but I could bump the monthly cost down once the 7 is out. I usually force a good deal lol.

 

[The Game 161]

Yeah that's true, although I can get the device free as an upgrade but I could bump the monthly cost down once the 7 is out. I usually force a good deal lol.

think i saw on carphone warehouse they are selling the 6s for 32 a month. Although never gone through them via contract. Even a year old iphone is still one of the best devices out there. IOS 10 can make it feel like a new phone as well.

 

[boltjames]

I don't understand how it's costing you more money? Maybe it's because I buy my phones outright from Apple on the day of release? Meaning I'm not on contract, but pay as you go. The way I understand it is that you can turn certain data features off.

I have always bought the iPhone on Day #1 at the subsidized price. My iPhone 6 was $800 list price, $399 discounted with a 2-year contract.

When I compare my current AT&T 2-year contract vs. the new AT&T Next plan that is my only option if I wanted an iPhone 7, I wind up spending $400 more for the phone and about $300 more for the service all-in over a two year period. The reason many are happily believing prices haven't been raised is because they like the fact they can get an iPhone for no money down and they think what they are paying each month puts them in the same place. It doesn't.

Relative to the iPhone 7's functionality, my point is that not only do the hardware prices go up and the monthly plan costs go up but with every new feature being about the camera and the audio getting enhanced that also means the data overages will be significant. Yeah, I know I can turn them off, but what's the point of a new iPhone if I'm not going to use the new features.

Bottom line is that true innovation in the iPhone is over and Apple is now in the monitization phase. All their motives from here in aren't on a better customer experience, it's on making as much money as possible.

BJ