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Interesting. Makes me glad I went ahead and ordered the Note 7 if this is legit, clearly shows nothing amazing for this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/24/new-iphone-7-iphone7-plus-photos/#5184efa2505c

You can't tell anything from how it looks. So what if it looks similar to the 6 and 6S? That camera improvement is going to be stellar, not to mention the rest of the usual bumps.

I'm just glad I purchase my devices based on what they do for me, not how the case looks. It means I have stellar performing hardware, great cross-device/OS integration, and an overall awesome experience day after day. Otherwise, I'd be stuck with some dud of a phone that looks flash, but is really just a turd wrapped in aluminum.

For what it's worth, it seems to me they're keeping a similar look for this one so that for the 10th anniversary (which would normally be the 7S), they can do something very different (as per the rumors).
 
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You can't tell anything from how it looks. So what if it looks similar to the 6 and 6S? That camera improvement is going to be stellar, not to mention the rest of the usual bumps.

I'm just glad I purchase my devices based on what they do for me, not how the case looks. It means I have stellar performing hardware, great cross-device/OS integration, and an overall awesome experience day after day. Otherwise, I'd be stuck with some dud of a phone that looks flash, but is really just a turd wrapped in aluminum.

For what it's worth, it seems to me they're keeping a similar look for this one so that for the 10th anniversary (which would normally be the 7S), they can do something very different (as per the rumors).
But if it doesn't look different enough then threre's nothing new and no innovation at all! ;)
 
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Call me agnostic. I laugh at both fans thinking one company has inherently better looking phones over the other. Sure, there's a trade off in software, extra variety and customization vs tighter integration and performance but the difference between the phone lines has never been narrower. I was envious of the first iPhone because it blew away all competition since, well, there was nothing like it. My Treo 650 looked like Sloth from Goonies. Now days? Pfffft. All large rectangular boxes with big bright screens running all the same apps. The first foldable phone screen or something like that will be impressive.

In isolated use cases, perhaps.

But that's one of the great draws to iOS/OS X/Mac OS/etc, is that there's so much cross-device/OS integration. Sure, the latest Samsung might have similar functionality directly on the phone, but I'd lose so much by moving to it. Because Apple controls the hardware, the software, and the services, you get all that off-device functionality built in.

Oh, and no one's quite done a good analog to TouchID and 3DTouch yet, either.
 
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That seems to be the theme. Customers swapping back and forth between Android and iOS, realizing Android was not what they hoped for, ultimately coming back to iOS. Sometimes it takes someone to leave something, until they realize how much they truly appreciated it in the first place.

Yet. iPhone's sale is declining and Android sales is increasing.

I don't know about you m. I don't feel iOS is so much better than Android offering. I switch to Android long time ago and Nexus phone is my daily driver. I don't feel I truly appreciated with iPhone.

I do carry iPhone as secondary phone, but never will be my primary phone.

I have no doubt that there are people out there who just like iPhone and iOS regardless. But I feel sorry for them.
 
Just skimming this thread I see a lot of mentions of android despite the OP making no mention of it. Why does a person's distaste in the next iteration of iPhone automatically lead to android discussion?

I have no problem with android, but my personal line is very likely going to remain a 6s plus, and will be the first iPhone I've ever kept for two years. In many ways that's actually testament to how good a phone the 6s plus really is.
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a question for everyone: how can you find switching platform (Android-iOS) back and fort so effortless? call me lazy, but i cannot imagine going through the pain of migrating the contact list, chat history, photo album, music library, etc.. are there any tools that make it somewhat automatic?
I use google for all of my contacts, Flickr for all of my photos and videos, and google music for music. That all allows for pretty effortless migration. I do this by choice because I have an android work phone and sometimes I want to be able to check something on one device or the other (though that's rare).

The only things I lose are texts but I have them set to delete after 30 days anyway because they take up a stupid amount of storage, particularly on iOS for some reason. I've had message threads made of 99% text take up multiple gigs of space. I no longer question it. It just gets deleted lol.
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Yeah but it's a massive square
To each their own I guess. I find the iPhone to just be a massive rectangle, albeit rounded. I don't really find the camera cutout being square any more or less attractive than a round camera cutout. It is what it is. I feel like the galaxy lineup looks a lot like last year's as well, from s glance anyway.
 
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The dual camera on the iPhone 7 will be a great feature, the 7 camera will also get a big update by the looks of it, if the leaks are true. People are underestimating the dual camera and what they can do.
The dual camera is absurd looking, especially with the bezel that looks like fish lips. Rather obscene really.

However it's the kind of gimmick Apple is good at hyping. It'll appeal to some.
 
The dual camera is absurd looking, especially with the bezel that looks like fish lips. Rather obscene really.

However it's the kind of gimmick Apple is good at hyping. It'll appeal to some.
Or many people won't really care about something that is as essentially irrelevant as that.
 
Just skimming this thread I see a lot of mentions of android despite the OP making no mention of it. Why does a person's distaste in the next iteration of iPhone automatically lead to android discussion?
Apple has always attracted vain users that have an emotional connection to the company. Quite often these types have to show off their iPhones, it's their identity, a self esteem issue. Bashing the competition to feel superior.

Using both I find they each have their strengths and are great smartphones. They're simply different.
 
Apple has always attracted vain users that have an emotional connection to the company. Quite often these types have to show off their iPhones, it's their identity, a self esteem issue. Bashing the competition to feel superior.

Using both I find they each have their strengths and are great smartphones. They're simply different.
Except plenty of the referenced commentary seems to be coming from those putting the iPhone down and/or propping Android (and/or its manufacturers) up. Seems like what you mentioned is rather moot (and sort of comes of as more of an attempt to put down those who might like iPhone and Apple than anything else).
 
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Or many people won't really care about something that is as essentially irrelevant as that.
I don't disagree.

It's just that many of us like to use the phone without a case. A protruding camera bump is annoying and ugly. Apple is capable of better, but complacency saves work for the design team.
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Seems like what you mentioned is rather moot (and comes of as more of an attempt to put down those who might like iPhone and Apple than anything else).
Not a put down, just sharing an observation about a segment of Apple customers.
 
as if the Note 7 looked any good, lol.

i cannot be the only one who thinks most samsung phones look hideous...
the only one i appreciated back then was the S3.


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a question for everyone: how can you find switching platform (Android-iOS) back and fort so effortless? call me lazy, but i cannot imagine going through the pain of migrating the contact list, chat history, photo album, music library, etc.. are there any tools that make it somewhat automatic?

left my 6splus for a note on friday, the transition was effortless and the phone and OS is actually very easy to pick up on and use. If anyone used an older version of touch wiz i could understand the problem (i left in-between the 5 and 5s bc i was bored and went with a galaxy s4, what a piece of junk) samsung i think finally is starting to get things right and will only flourish from here. I may come back to the 8, i may not, the 8 is going to have all the features that the note has now or had already (OLED screen, apple pen support, high quality camera etc). I was using iOS 10 from its inception and was happy with the widgets, which android has had forever. All in all right now, today, i am happy with my purchase of the note 7 and hope apple wins me back with the 8 but I feel a lot of people will leave for note 7 and might not come back. Yes the ecosystem is great but apple needs to innovate the phone more bc that is the most used tool in everyones pocket.
 
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Yet. iPhone's sale is declining and Android sales is increasing.

I don't know about you m. I don't feel iOS is so much better than Android offering. I switch to Android long time ago and Nexus phone is my daily driver. I don't feel I truly appreciated with the iPhone.

I do carry iPhone as secondary phone, but never will be my primary phone.

I have no doubt that there are people out there who just like iPhone and iOS regardless. But I feel sorry for them.

That's the difference. Everyone has their view on Apple and Android. Both have major advantages over each other. See, I was with Android at one point and then I switched to Apple. Once I was with Apple, then I realized how much I appreciated iOS. I would and never will return back to Android. But that is my opinion. Please don't feel sorry for me. I couldn't be happier. I can look past the cosmetic features of the iPhone and appreciate the security and software. Android, to me, falls short in so many categories. To each their own.
 
Except plenty of the referenced commentary seems to be coming from those putting the iPhone down and/or propping Android (and/or its manufacturers) up. Seems like what you mentioned is rather moot (and sort of comes of as more of an attempt to put down those who might like iPhone and Apple than anything else).
It seems like a person mentions Apple's choices have mooed then to consider android (in this case a note 7) and people come out of the woodwork all offended telling them not to let the door hit them on the way out. And the thread devolved into what it is now.

All the whole I constantly hear how the Apple crowd is the courteous bunch. The mud flinging is childish and ridiculous and, frankly, overdone by now. It's the same lines being repeated over and over again for years now on both sides. People need to get over themselves and understand that their opinion may not be the same as someone else's. Too many people try to prove their opinion right. There's no need. Your opinion is absolutely right for you. Anyone who claims otherwise is, in fact, wrong.
 
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I may come back to the 8, i may not, the 8 is going to have all the features that the note has now or had already (OLED screen, apple pen support, high quality camera etc).
OLED screen is not a "feature", it has no function per se. OLED is just a technical specification.
i wish more here would understand the difference...
 
Yet. iPhone's sale is declining and Android sales is increasing.

I don't know about you m. I don't feel iOS is so much better than Android offering. I switch to Android long time ago and Nexus phone is my daily driver. I don't feel I truly appreciated with iPhone.

I do carry iPhone as secondary phone, but never will be my primary phone.

I have no doubt that there are people out there who just like iPhone and iOS regardless. But I feel sorry for them.

I don't know why you would feel sorry for those who choose iPhones and iOS. If you prefer android over iOS that's your choice and prerogative. Personally having used iOS, android and Windows phones in my opinion iOS is far superior in every way to its competitors. iOS and iPhone has been my primary choice ever since the original iPhone and I have been and I am still perfectly happy with my choice. I don't need you or anyone else to feel sorry for me. After all it's a choice I have made based on my experiences and for me iOS and iPhone is by far the best choice.
 
I don't know why you would feel sorry for those who choose iPhones and iOS. If you prefer android over iOS that's your choice and prerogative. Personally having used iOS, android and Windows phones in my opinion iOS is far superior in every way to its competitors. iOS and iPhone has been my primary choice ever since the original iPhone and I have been and I am still perfectly happy with my choice. I don't need you or anyone else to feel sorry for me. After all it's a choice I have made based on my experiences and for me iOS and iPhone is by far the best choice.

How is iOS far superior when you can get basic file transfer done without iTunes?

Show me how to transfer my PDF file to iPad without iTunes or without email myself bunch PDF files. How do I transfer files out of iPhone/iPad without email myself?

I do not feel sorry for people choice iOS, even though it is clearly bad choice. But I do feel sorry for people who refuse to look other side.
 
How is iOS far superior when you can get basic file transfer done without iTunes?

Show me how to transfer my PDF file to iPad without iTunes or without email myself bunch PDF files. How do I transfer files out of iPhone/iPad without email myself?

I do not feel sorry for people choice iOS, even though it is clearly bad choice. But I do feel sorry for people who refuse to look other side.
There are ways to transfer files which you have listed but you don't want to use them because it's not the way you want to do it? I also don't know how you can say iOS is clearly a bad choice. For you maybe, but not for everybody. It's a great operating system and like any other it has its strengths and weaknesses.

Buy the device you like, it's no skin off anybody else's nose.
 
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There are ways to transfer files which you have listed but you don't want to use them because it's not the way you want to do it? I also don't know how you can say iOS is clearly a bad choice. For you maybe, but not for everybody. It's a great operating system and like any other it has its strengths and weaknesses.

Buy the device you like, it's no skin off anybody else's nose.

Because these ways aren't any superior and more complicated than direct drag and drop.
 
How is iOS far superior when you can get basic file transfer done without iTunes?

Show me how to transfer my PDF file to iPad without iTunes or without email myself bunch PDF files. How do I transfer files out of iPhone/iPad without email myself?

I do not feel sorry for people choice iOS, even though it is clearly bad choice. But I do feel sorry for people who refuse to look other side.
You can use airdrop which is a wireless solution and much better than having to connect my iPad/iphone up to my mac. I can count on less than one hand the amount of times I've had to connect my iPhone or iPad to my mac.
 
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Yeah, so my kids can take stupid Snapchat selfies in even higher resolution and hit me with even higher data bills.

No thanks.

BJ

A better camera doesn't necessarily mean higher resolution. In fact, it often doesn't.
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OLED screen is not a "feature", it has no function per se. OLED is just a technical specification.
i wish more here would understand the difference...

Relax -- people are talking here, they aren't writing scholarly articles. In this case, OLED is a technology associated with attributes that many consider desirable. If they call it a "feature," you know what they mean.
 
You can use airdrop which is a wireless solution and much better than having to connect my iPad/iphone up to my mac. I can count on less than one hand the amount of times I've had to connect my iPhone or iPad to my mac.


And how do I airdrop files between iPad and Windows and Air Drop does not work half of the time. It seems Air Drop will takes its sweet time to recognize my devices.

Nothing beats simple drag and drop.
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Exactly. The rears of both phones I don't think compare. The iPhone's aesthetics as always trump the competition, it's much cleaner looking especially the way they represent the flash

Seriously? You think iPhone's aesthetic is good?

iPhone 6 is ugly piece of poop. It is wrost design Apple ever come up with. iPhone also has terrible screen body ratio.

By comparison, Galaxy S6, Huawei Honoro 8, OnePlus 3 etc are all better looking than iPhone 6 and 6S.
 
And how do I airdrop files between iPad and Windows and Air Drop does not work half of the time. It seems Air Drop will takes its sweet time to recognize my devices.

Nothing beats simple drag and drop.
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Seriously? You think iPhone's aesthetic is good?

iPhone 6 is ugly piece of poop. It is wrost design Apple ever come up with. iPhone also has terrible screen body ratio.

By comparison, Galaxy S6, Huawei Honoro 8, OnePlus 3 etc are all better looking than iPhone 6 and 6S.
Absolutely. Of course this is opinion based, but I believe overall if you couple apples form and functionality with pretty much their whole line its second to none. Maybe some can criticize some missteps they believe they took, but aestically and functionally I don't think you need to look anywhere else, the high quality materials used for the shell and the smooth OS will always keep me coming back.
 
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