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Soooo.... where apple cases for this phone?
It's so "inexpensive" you don't need one. If it breaks buy another.
On a serious note I was wondering the same thing. I ended up purchasing the Spigen Ultra Hybrid Designed Apple iPhone XR Case (2018) - Crystal Clear off Amazon for $12.
 
You mean there is no chance of it selling so well that AAPL lifts the entire market single handed for 6 months or more? :)
You can see the market today doesn't like the AMZN, GOOGL misses. AAPL has lifted the entire market before, but AMZN/GOOGL combined are bigger than AAPL, so it can only do so much.
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The iPad Pro is viewed from much further away. More importantly the iPad doesn’t have such a low resolution.
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The 8 is a lot smaller than the Xr and 720p is ok on a 4.7 inch display.
The iPad Pro really isn't viewed from much farther away and it has 20% fewer PPI.

There are plenty of times the iPad is closer to my face, like if I'm sitting with my knees up on the couch. Even still, I can look at the screen 1 foot from my face and really struggle to see pixels on the iPad. I have 20/20 vision too.

This is a non story. The screen is going to look great. The reviews already confirm that. OLED looks better, but it's not like you're seeing obvious pixels on the Xr. Jobs said after 326ppi, it doesn't matter...I think he's right.

OLED is more about deeper blacks, better contrast, and better colors.
 
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And you don’t hold it anywhere near as close as a phone.
And it has 20% fewer PPI, and there are situations the iPad is pretty close to your face. I have perfect 20/20 vision and I can barely see pixels on the ipad even from 6 inches away. 326PPI is going to be impossible to see pixels for 99% of people.
 
You can see the market today doesn't like the AMZN, GOOGL misses. AAPL has lifted the entire market before, but AMZN/GOOGL combined are bigger than AAPL, so it can only do so much.
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The iPad Pro really isn't viewed from much farther away and it has 20% fewer PPI.

There are plenty of times the iPad is closer to my face, like if I'm sitting with my knees up on the couch. Even still, I can look at the screen 1 foot from my face and really struggle to see pixels on the iPad. I have 20/20 vision too.

This is a non story. The screen is going to look great. The reviews already confirm that. OLED looks better, but it's not like you're seeing obvious pixels on the Xr. Jobs said after 326ppi, it doesn't matter...I think he's right.

OLED is more about deeper blacks, better contrast, and better colors.
I actually don’t care about the PPI it’s the low resolution I can’t get passed the lower resolution screen. However the Xr isn’t meant for me. I’m on tech forum so I’m going to pick at things like the screen but the average consumer won’t care and will buy these by the bucket load.
 
And it has 20% fewer PPI, and there are situations the iPad is pretty close to your face. I have perfect 20/20 vision and I can barely see pixels on the ipad even from 6 inches away. 326PPI is going to be impossible to see pixels for 99% of people.

Sure. 1% is a lot of people, though. 326dpi is fuzz-o-vision for me.
 
Sure. 1% is a lot of people, though. 326dpi is fuzz-o-vision for me.
The 1% that care were never going to be Xr customers anyway...

Even if 25% care, that's why they have the XS and XS Max. The more you think about the strategy, the more brilliant it becomes...

Sure, 1% of let's say 400M potential upgraders is a lot, but 99% is a lot more. How do you manage your business? Again, they have the XS with incredible screens.
 
The 1% that care were never going to be Xr customers anyway...

Even if 25% care, that's why they have the XS and XS Max. The more you think about the strategy, the more brilliant it becomes...

Nobody is saying the XR isn’t a good phone for the masses (or at least, I’m not). I’m just saying I wouldn’t personally go near it.
 
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Apple customers in Australia and New Zealand are always the first to get their hands on new devices on launch day because of time zone differences, and the iPhone XR is no exception.

It's now morning time in Australia and New Zealand and customers who pre-ordered one of Apple's new devices are beginning to receive their shipments. New iPhone XR owners have started sharing photos of the device on Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, and the MacRumors forums.

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There are no Apple Stores located in New Zealand, so customers in Australia were the first to be able to purchase an iPhone XR from an Apple retail location. Given that iPhone XR stock quantities remained strong following pre-orders on October 19, Apple should have plenty of stock available for walk-in purchases around the world.


Following New Zealand and Australia, iPhone XR sales will kick off in Asia, Europe, and finally, North America. Apple Stores globally are opening up at 8:00 a.m. local time to allow customers to pick up reserved devices and make walk-in purchases.


In the United States, the first new device deliveries and sales will take place on the East Coast starting at 8:00 a.m.

Aside from Apple, other retailers including carriers and big box stores are also stocking the iPhone XR and should have supply available for launch day purchases.


We'll be sharing first impressions of the new device from actual Apple customers in Australia and New Zealand, so make sure to stay tuned to MacRumors and if you've received one of the new iPhone XR models, let us know what you think.

Article Link: First iPhone XR Orders Begin Arriving to Customers in Australia and New Zealand
[doublepost=1540570206][/doublepost]the UPS truck just delivered it a few minutes ago... :)
 
Yeah. It's a tough one. I asked this in another thread but no answer, so I'll ask here. Can the Pixel 3 do the portrait mode beyond faces with its back camera? If so, then there is no reason why the XR can't. If it can't, then that makes it less likely that Apple will intro it down the track with an update (if they ever would...)

What is a Pixel?

Kidding but yeah, I wouldn't know.

Can't the bokeh effect be applied after the fact using a 3rd party photo editing app?

I wouldn't know, seems like a lot of extra work as opposed to my 7+ that will do Portrait effect on anything.
 
You can see the market today doesn't like the AMZN, GOOGL misses. AAPL has lifted the entire market before, but AMZN/GOOGL combined are bigger than AAPL, so it can only do so much.
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The iPad Pro really isn't viewed from much farther away and it has 20% fewer PPI.

There are plenty of times the iPad is closer to my face, like if I'm sitting with my knees up on the couch. Even still, I can look at the screen 1 foot from my face and really struggle to see pixels on the iPad. I have 20/20 vision too.

This is a non story. The screen is going to look great. The reviews already confirm that. OLED looks better, but it's not like you're seeing obvious pixels on the Xr. Jobs said after 326ppi, it doesn't matter...I think he's right.

OLED is more about deeper blacks, better contrast, and better colors.

was joking about AAPL propping the entire market up. It was a complete bargain when it opened under $216 today though. I snatched a couple more shares.
 
It's not that dramatic of a difference. I think you're overstating.

To me it is. After getting my 6 Plus (as RAM deprived as it was) I couldn’t go back to the lower PPI AND resolution. Painful.

I may be a fringe case: I thought the original iPad display resolution/PPI was awful too, and even reviewed it as such. Everyone else seemed to love the display.
 
Sorry sorry but those bezzels are Thicc. I love my Xs and thin bezzels.
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Ah didn't know that thanks, wonder why they stopped that. Does the 7/8+ still do it in iOS 12?
Face ID is incapable of working in landscape mode probably. I’m sure it will be available next year.
 
was joking about AAPL propping the entire market up. It was a complete bargain when it opened under $216 today though. I snatched a couple more shares.
AAPL is such a beast, it can prop up the market but nothing seems to be working today. I think AAPL is worth $400/share today, so I like your purchase.

The Xr is not having impact on the stock, which is good because any impact new product launches have is usually negative until we see the numbers and analysts are proven wrong.
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To me it is. After getting my 6 Plus (as RAM deprived as it was) I couldn’t go back to the lower PPI AND resolution. Painful.

I may be a fringe case: I thought the original iPad display resolution/PPI was awful too, and even reviewed it as such. Everyone else seemed to love the display.
Your 6 Plus screen might have higher resolution and PPI, but it's likely worse in other areas like color reproduction.

In a blind test, I doubt you'd see the difference. We all have the same biology and the human eye has limits.
 
AAPL is such a beast, it can prop up the market but nothing seems to be working today. I think AAPL is worth $400/share today, so I like your purchase.

The Xr is not having impact on the stock, which is good because any impact new product launches have is usually negative until we see the numbers and analysts are proven wrong.
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Your 6 Plus screen might have higher resolution and PPI, but it's likely worse in other areas like color reproduction.

In a blind test, I doubt you'd see the difference. We all have the same biology and the human eye has limits.

In a blind test, I guarantee I can tell the difference. Bet you any amount of money you'd like. I'm not talking color reproduction. I can't speak for that but I assume the XR to be ahead of the 6 Plus, that's for sure. In terms of resolution and PPI, it's not a contest - to me.
 
The Porsche 911 was released in 1963 and it’s still the same low doors per car, 2.
I don’t get it. Porsche 718 is basically a cheap version of Porsche 911. Seriously....
Were you trying to make some kind of point? Seems like you are trying to get your posts up, go somewhere else for that, or maybe you were looking for an ESL thread lol I’ll take both 729 and 911.

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It’s a cheap version on the max at $350 in savings
Yes it is, still don’t get the commotion around it. I think it’s a more expensive model than Xs if you compare the ratio of feature and hardware to money you spend. Ether way, it’s a poor man iPhone Xs I guess. Obviously there is market for it and some folks want to have it, good for em.
 
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Had eye strain and headaches from the oled screen. I know I’m the minority and the max was a beautiful device. Apple took it back as a return.

I also have troubles with light backgrounds on the OLED screen of my X since they seem to display some kind of nervous variation in time (flicker) or space (structure). I'll probably will look into the XR to see if its display looks smoother. Though I would miss the additional 2x lens of the camera.

For Scooz who still has the XR maybe try this trick?

https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2018/03/...to-stop-oled-flickering-in-just-three-clicks/

I'm not sure my phone was causing me the same eye strain issue but been trying this setting for the past week. I'm prone to headaches anyway so couldn't be sure if it was phone related or not when I get them. Guess I'll see if they improve in the next couple weeks though.

Cheers!
 
In a blind test, I guarantee I can tell the difference. Bet you any amount of money you'd like. I'm not talking color reproduction. I can't speak for that but I assume the XR to be ahead of the 6 Plus, that's for sure. In terms of resolution and PPI, it's not a contest - to me.
Doubt it, but it’s not like I could ever bet you money...or I would.

326ppi is very hard to see pixels. You aren’t Superman.
 
Doubt it, but it’s not like I could ever bet you money...or I would.

326ppi is very hard to see pixels. You aren’t Superman.

No, I'm not Superman, but the difference is obvious. Text is more aliased/stair-stepped etc. It's not a comparison between 326ppi and >400ppi.

It's even more pronounced when I'm in bed without my glasses on, with the phone closer to my face. At that point 326ppi is a mess, relatively. I have an iPhone 6 lying about that if I pick up - I am appalled by.

Anyway, the XR is a good phone, but ~720p is just baloney today.
 
No, I'm not Superman, but the difference is obvious. Text is more aliased/stair-stepped etc. It's not a comparison between 326ppi and >400ppi.

It's even more pronounced when I'm in bed without my glasses on, with the phone closer to my face. At that point 326ppi is a mess, relatively. I have an iPhone 6 lying about that if I pick up - I am appalled by.

Anyway, the XR is a good phone, but ~720p is just baloney today.
You must be Superman. I have a 6S and my sister has a 6S Plus. Neither of us can tell the difference. Small fonts look very smooth on both, no visible stair stepping or aliasing. 326 ppi looks amazing, I have no idea how it could be called appalling. You must have amazingly good eyesight. btw XR is ~820p not ~720p.
 
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You must be Superman. I have a 6S and my sister has a 6S Plus. Neither of us can tell the difference. Small fonts look very smooth on both, no visible stair stepping or aliasing. 326 ppi looks amazing, I have no idea how it could be called appalling. You must have amazingly good eyesight. btw XR is ~820p not ~720p.

Without my glasses I can't see much! :D And yes, it's ~820p, which is not that much more than ~720p. Let's not split hairs here. It's not impressive. There's a reason Apple went to higher ppi with their larger phones rather than keep it at 326ppi.

I spend all day sitting in front of a 27" 5K iMac. I have a 27" 2K (1440p) Acer right next to it. The difference is also night and day there. Do you notice a difference at seating distance between 5K and 1440p, if you have ever compared?
 
Without my glasses I can't see much! :D And yes, it's ~820p, which is not that much more than ~720p. Let's not split hairs here. It's not impressive. There's a reason Apple went to higher ppi with their larger phones rather than keep it at 326ppi.
Maybe your corrective lenses explain your ability to discern pixels at 326ppi. It’s easy to correct to 20/15 or better with lenses. The reason Apple used 326ppi in the first place was exactly because pixels aren’t apparent at that density (for most people).
I spend all day sitting in front of a 27" 5K iMac. I have a 27" 2K (1440p) Acer right next to it. The difference is also night and day there. Do you notice a difference at seating distance between 5K and 1440p, if you have ever compared?
Haven’t ever compared, but I suspect I’d be able to tell, that’s only 108 ppi vs. the iMac’s 216 ppi, a 100% difference and 108 ppi is pretty low. Whereas with iPhone 6S vs. 6S Plus, it’s 326 ppi vs. 401 ppi, a difference of less than 25%, and 326 is already quite high.
 
Maybe your corrective lenses explain your ability to discern pixels at 326ppi. It’s easy to correct to 20/15 or better with lenses. The reason Apple used 326ppi in the first place was exactly because pixels aren’t apparent at that density (for most people).

Haven’t ever compared, but I suspect I’d be able to tell, that’s only 108 ppi vs. the iMac’s 216 ppi, a 100% difference and 108 ppi is pretty low. Whereas with iPhone 6S vs. 6S Plus, it’s 326 ppi vs. 401 ppi, a difference of less than 25%, and 326 is already quite high.

I can't say if you're right about the corrective lenses as I've no way to be able to make my eyes "normal." All I know is a lot of people wear glasses. Either way, there's got to be a reason why Apple increased the ppi. Now I wish they'd increase the sppi. :)
 
I can't say if you're right about the corrective lenses as I've no way to be able to make my eyes "normal." All I know is a lot of people wear glasses. Either way, there's got to be a reason why Apple increased the ppi. Now I wish they'd increase the sppi. :)
You get better features/specs when you pay more. A fantastic display is better than an excellent display. Apple knows camera and display are two major features where customers are willing to pay more to get more. True with the old Plus, still true with the XS/XS Max.

But not everyone thinks the extra cost is “worth it”. You can see the two different ways of thinking in this thread. Some say you’re crazy not to get the best for $1,000 (it 1,100 even) if you’re already going to spend $750. Others say you’re crazy to spend $1,000 when you can get the XR for $750, which is almost as good.
 
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