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My cpu is better then what is offered in mid 2014.. Only I5 in the 2014.. Mine is an I7 3.1GHz. Is the I5 a better/faster CPU?
 
I just have to say I disagree on the "refreshing change of pace" description.

No thanks. Suddenly Windows seems like a refreshing change of pace. But as long as my current machine isnt forced to upgrade, I will ignore it for the next several years. Then I will re--valuate.
 
No word on the 11 beta and core audio/midi? Any changes? Issues?

I wonder if the T2 issues with audio have been fixed with 11?
Apparently not for everybody...
i realize your question was about audio, however this seems like an even greater concern...

 
Apple always prioritized function first in a Most every pixel and interface/function changed with iOS7, so is th


Exactly. There was no reason for the Fisher Price My First OSX that appeared in Yosemite other than it followed Jony’s penchant for less is more.

I don’t get all this “fisher price” talk. You want to talk OS’s that look like a toy? Take a look at Aqua. Big Sur looks highly professional in comparison. Yet people want to Make the Mac Great Again.
 
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I don’t get all this “fisher price” talk. You want to talk OS’s that look like a toy? Take a look at Aqua. Big Sur looks highly professional in comparison. Yet people want to Make the Mac Great Again.

Yosemite looked mighty basic/flat/dumbed down compared to Mavericks. Mavericks “looked like” an Apple OS, with a unique font and crisp details throughout the interface.

Things like Yosemite’s thin reworked font, flattish elements, dumbed-down amateur-looking stop lights, and bright blue folders just looked less professional and more “basic/childish” to me. A lot of changes for the sake of introducing some changes that were inline with Jony Ive’s minimalist preferences, forgetting that the software content in a minimalist/pretty computer case should never be minimalized without thinking about the trade-offs.
 
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So, we finally have an automatic translation like in Google Chrome? Which languages are available?
Seems to work much better than chrome.

The languages at the moment appear to be:

Arabic, Chinese, english, french, german, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian and Spanish. But it’s not clear if every language pair works
 
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My first thought: are they going to be able to do this all without tons of bugs, instability and rough edges? Because they sure didn’t manage that with Catalina very well.
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You shut down every night?

So, it isn't necessary to shut down every night? I do it because I think that when I closed all windows and shut it down, my Mac can have a "relaxing" moment 🤣
 
So, it isn't necessary to shut down every night? I do it because I think that when I closed all windows and shut it down, my Mac can have a "relaxing" moment 🤣
It’s nice to shut down to save a little electricity. Not necessary to do so for any technical reason - macs can go a long time between boots without any problems, generally. Not like the old days when you needed to reboot windows every day or two :)
 
Battery is replacing Energy Saver? My Mac Mini and iMac run off the wall. What Battery?

And don't get us started on how the battery icon like many others is so bad and in such stark contrast to the direction most of the other UI elements are evolving.

Exactly. And I don't even like "Energy Saver" since maybe I don't want to save energy? Something like Power Options seems more appropriate for laptops AND desktops.
 
Rather than continue to read what people disapprove of before they even download and install this beta, here's a review since I did download it and install it. This review is KNEE-JERK, first impressions. There's probably a lot of tweaking one can do in Control Panel that isn't covered here yet.

1. Apple must have told the developers "the install *cannot* go as it did on the first few Catalina releases - no mistakes!" It was smooth as glass on a 2019 13" MBP. I run an LG 4K monitor and it and my external drives came right up. I pucker up on my external drives showing up correctly ever since I went with Catalina.

2. ICONS: Obviously, developers haven't had a chance to redesign their icons to conform to the new design so it's hard to get a feel for the new ones. I like the depth and color of the new Apple-specific icons, however. They look amazing. You have to see this stuff for yourselves instead of relying on screenshots or a video.

3. Safari: I'll get this out of the way immediately. As soon as I saw the same old lame, goofy tab sizes I shut it down. I didn't need to see any more. C'mon Apple, bring your precious browser that can't compare in any way to really well done modern professional browsers such as Edge, which I've moved to permanently, into the 21st century or otherwise, why bother? Thank God you're finally letting us choose which browser is the *full* OS replacement in iOS 14.

4. Window frames: My favorite part. They're finally gone! Well, in Apple apps anyway. Edge still has a frame border along the top. Not for long. These look amazing. Oh, and the close/minimize/fullscreen buttons are finally properly placed on the Music app. This new look with rounded corners doesn't suggest the iPad to me - I thought they would. Well done, Apple. Well done. If it took the Windows 10 previews to make you abandon Ive's flat crap that ruined the look of the Mac for years, so be it.

By the way - shadows on the windows look like they always did. Stop trying to make judgments based on a video. That's the default anyway, I haven't gone in to see if these can be reduced - I'm guessing the effect probably can be reduced.

5. Finder Folders, etc: I nearly teared up looking at these open Finder windows. Apple has brought sexy back to the Mac. If you use larger icons in list view as I do, you're going to be impressed with how good they look.

6. I'm digging the menu bar. iStats stands out like a sore thumb because they haven't had a chance to change their menu bar icons yet. They're black while everything else is white. The white text is the default. I'll update if this can be changed in Control Panel.

7. The new icon designs look great on the desktop. Since this was an upgrade, my Finder choices were respected and my drive icons are still there.

8. Notification Center. What's the point of having widgets when you can't keep them on the desktop? Maybe there's a hack like 10 years ago. I don't see anything in Control Panel to directly affect the NC itself, just the notifications. Jeez...anyone remember the widget wars and how all them, including the ones in Win 7, suddenly faded into the sunset? They're baaaaackkk...but we already knew that from the iPad.

This was either in co-development with Catalina or it's Catalina with cosmetic changes. This beta is awfully smooth and putting it through its paces, it's stable - nothing like the first Catalina beta. Photos came right up without any rigamarole or an update to the database. Music and TV - same, no changes. All the album art and TV/Movies were there. No iCloud conflicts. My iPhone registered in Finder immediately.

That's it for now - just a knee-jerk first impression. I'll update if I find anything to really note.
 
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The mail app with tge “new” sidebar in ios 14 is already implemented in ios 13.5.1 on my ipad pro 2020 12.9“.
 
"The battery in the control panel looks weird...waaaahhh, I don't like it, it's bad!!!" Well...try to avoid looking at it if you make any changes then close the control panel and you'll never be bothered with it again...the battery on the menu bar looks nothing like it.
 
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So, it isn't necessary to shut down every night? I do it because I think that when I closed all windows and shut it down, my Mac can have a "relaxing" moment 🤣

The machine doesn't use much electricity or anything when it's asleep. If you turn "power nap" on, it can periodically fetch email, do iCloud syncs, run Time Machine backups. But otherwise it's quiet, the display is off. And when you start back up, you're exactly where you were.

I tend to keep mine running for quite a while, just sleeping between sessions. Sometimes my time since last reboot can get up toward a month or more. I generally only restart if there's a system update or something.
 
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Exactly. And I don't even like "Energy Saver" since maybe I don't want to save energy? Something like Power Options seems more appropriate for laptops AND desktops.
Well I also never understood why ScreenSaver was a tab with Desktop when it is more a power management and sleep related function. Typically you set the screensaver at x minutes and the sleep function at a later time. Having those in one view makes more sense to me. But since screensaver is a visual thing, it ends up with the wallpapers.
 
Sure looks like an overall improvement to me. I don't get the extreme language ("hideous" etc.), but it's quite comical to read.
 
What with the huge amounts of empty space in the menus, looks like a Linux GNOME GUI. There is no reason to call this OS 11, when Jobs jumped from PowerPC to Intel they didn't jump numbers, this is still OS X. OS 9 and OS X those are different. They just want to show off as if its a huge change. Not fan of the white and transparent menus, not in the age where people are looking for dark modes.

Apple 2013: We are going flat
Apple 2020: Messages icon
 
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Can anyone confirm if “Classic Mode” has been added back to the Mail App? Or, if you are viewing columns, have they added back the ability to choose, resize, and rearrange columns? Not sure why they got rid of all that functionality a year or so ago. Thanks
 
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