First Mac Pro Orders Begin Shipping Out to Customers, Delivery Expected on Monday

daveedjackson said:
Lol it does make me think, what's the point in a 12 core. My trash can is 12 core, and the base GPU - and on top of it adding 96gb of ram from apple. Someone doesn't know what their ordering.
LOL
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Maybe go and listen to the many podcasts from professionals making comments about it, and the cost. Also I was speaking to a friend in a post house, afterburner is SUPER but how does it work when the Mac in on a shared network?!
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You can compare geekbench scores of the 12 core CPU in the new cheesegrater with the 12 core trashcan, ans it‘s much faster actually.
 
konqerror said:
HP wants 4 weeks to ship their Z8 workstation, released 2017. Dell is quoting 3 weeks on their Precision 7820. Lenovo is saying 3 weeks for certain configurations of the P920. This has proven nothing about "high demand".
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And those aren't high profile products being talking about all over the web either. This is also a product people have been waiting a long time for. I doubt many are clamoring for Levovo, HP or Dell's workstations. :)
 
49erRedGold said:
"Apple's initial delivery estimates were at one to two weeks after purchase, but orders placed now will not be delivered until December 31 to January 8 due to demand for the machine."

And the usuals that are hating on this product due to cost saying Apple has gone overboard are wrong as usual. High demand is pushing back delivery. Why is it that people on forums pretend to know how to run Apple's business better than a trillion dollar valuation company? SMH.
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There's always a huge initial flurry on something that's been awaited for a long time from Apple.

Of course it's expensive as hell, but there are a bunch of people who want it and can afford it.

I think after the initial few months, everyone who was wanting and waiting for one will have one, and the demand will slow down, and the units will slowly trickle from the factory, most people will not be able to afford it and stick with the iMac/iMac Pro.
 
HiVolt said:
There's always a huge initial flurry on something that's been awaited for a long time from Apple.

Of course it's expensive as hell, but there are a bunch of people who want it and can afford it.

I think after the initial few months, everyone who was wanting and waiting for one will have one, and the demand will slow down, and the units will slowly trickle from the factory, most people will not be able to afford it and stick with the iMac/iMac Pro.
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Hmm, sounds like you want the product to fail. SMH.
 
The issue of price is going to pollute every thread regarding this machine.

This thing is not too expensive. It is just not what the name says it replaces.

This thing is like Ford stopping sales of the F-150 Super-Duty, then giving us a giant dumpster truck with 8-foot wheels and calling that the NEW F-150!

Of COURSE people are losing their minds, particularly because the truck they needed/wanted was NEVER replaced.

Like Ford saying: "go use this El Camino instead, if this an F-150 is too much for you."

Old Mac Pro fans: Apple WILL NOT build an equivalent machine again. That ship sailed into the sunset with Steve Jobs.

Let it go.
 
Darth Tulhu said:
The issue of price is going to pollute every thread regarding this machine.

This thing is not too expensive. It is just not what the name says it replaces.

This thing is like Ford stopping sales of the F-150 Super-Duty, then giving us a giant dumpster truck with 8-foot wheels and calling that the NEW F-150!

Of COURSE people are losing their minds, particularly because the truck they needed/wanted was NEVER replaced.

Like Ford saying: "go use this El Camino instead, if this an F-150 is too much for you."

Old Mac Pro fans: Apple WILL NOT build an equivalent machine again. That ship sailed into the sunset with Steve Jobs.

Let it go.
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Exactly. If they called it the Mega Mac or the Insane Mac or the You Can’t Afford It Mac, people would get the idea that this is supposed to be a direct replacement for all purposes for the old Mac Pro out of their heads.
 
What’s stopping you from getting a Mac Pro 5,1?

On a popular shopping website refurb with 12x3.46 ghz, 64 gab ram, catalina, 1tb ssd and RX580.

This is roughly as fast as the 8 core Mac Pro (the ssd is slower due to sata II) for less than a third of the Price considering the extra RAM and storage.

You can even use nvidia cards And CUDA with older macOS versions on it, something the new Mac Pro doesn’t offer because it’s locked to Catalina.

the 5,1 isn’t dead until Apple an affordable tower again.
 
seclusion said:
I can’t imagine what would push the system that hard, but I suspect someone is going to figure that out and show us.
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Just run the flight simulator x-plane on a maxed out MacPro and it will bring it to it's knees once all the settings on the flight simulator are maxed out!

I guess Austin Mayer (the developer of x-plane) will get himself a MacPro, since he is coding on Macs.
 
The Clark said:
Big ups to those who can afford it, I'm jealous.
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Business usually make large equipment purchases near the end of the year for tax write-off purposes. It really has no bearing if the cost is affordable or the desired audience demand. The key to all this is to see how the demand is in 6 months to a year. Jut being realistic here, the good news is that the more Apple sells the better the financial report the better the value of my shares. Win/Win for everyone.
 
Steve01234 said:
No idea what users apple was listening to, certainly not the folks who work for a living using these things. They are out of their minds on the pricing. We wanted a $2500 i9 box - a basic update of the old tower with new tech like USB3.1 and TB3... we got this monstrosity instead.
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A Core i9 isn’t going to give Apple the performance they want as everything is going to end up having to run through the PCH (TB3, SSD, non-GPU PCIe slots, USB 3 ports, 1 GbE, et al) which is simply something Apple is NOT going to do.

This monstrosity is just what Pros wanted and needed. What you’re describing is a consumer Mac tower, not a Mac Pro.

Your choices are a Mac mini and an iMac.
 
49erRedGold said:
"Apple's initial delivery estimates were at one to two weeks after purchase, but orders placed now will not be delivered until December 31 to January 8 due to demand for the machine."

And the usuals that are hating on this product due to cost saying Apple has gone overboard are wrong as usual. High demand is pushing back delivery. Why is it that people on forums pretend to know how to run Apple's business better than a trillion dollar valuation company? SMH.
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There is zero data here to tell anyone outside Apple anything about the actual demand. We don’t have the number of sales so far, nor the number of machines being built. You’re drawing a conclusion about demand without any facts to support it.
 
stukdog said:
Hmm...we know a thing or two because we’ve ordered a Pro or two.
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Are those going to end up for sale at Otherworld Computing? There seems to have been a major loss of stock in used Pros there by the morning after the release of the newest model...
 
daveedjackson said:
Lol it does make me think, what's the point in a 12 core. My trash can is 12 core, and the base GPU - and on top of it adding 96gb of ram from apple. Someone doesn't know what their ordering.
LOL
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Maybe go and listen to the many podcasts from professionals making comments about it, and the cost. Also I was speaking to a friend in a post house, afterburner is SUPER but how does it work when the Mac in on a shared network?!
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The 12-core will have higher clock speed and memory bandwidth in the new Mac Pro - assume you're talking about a late 2013 trash can:

Old Mac Pro - 2.7GHz Base / 3.5GHz Turbo, 1866 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
New Mac Pro - 3.3Ghz Base / 4.4Ghz Turbo, 2933 MHz" DDR4 ECC memory

It's going to be at least 20% faster based on CPU clock alone.

If you use anything on the GFX card then the MPX modules have higher bandwith too and the PCIe slots are v4 vs well, non existent :D
 
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