The funny thing is that it's not that heavy. A Lenovo P920 has a max weight of 72 lbs, the Mac Pro is 39.7 lbs.
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The funny thing is that it's not that heavy. A Lenovo P920 has a max weight of 72 lbs, the Mac Pro is 39.7 lbs.
This is for companies that produce six figure commercial projects regularly. The price is a drop in the bucket to them, and Apple knows this. You aren't smarter than they are, you just have a different value scale for computers.
dantroline
macrumors 6502
And a non-Xeon and non-ECC outperforms both at that level (for price/performance). I think the Mac Pro comes into its own when the number of cores is greater than 12. If I were buying, I'd buy big or buy something else.The 12-core will have higher clock speed and memory bandwidth in the new Mac Pro - assume you're talking about a late 2013 trash can:
Old Mac Pro - 2.7GHz Base / 3.5GHz Turbo, 1866 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
New Mac Pro - 3.3Ghz Base / 4.4Ghz Turbo, 2933 MHz" DDR4 ECC memory
It's going to be at least 20% faster based on CPU clock alone.
If you use anything on the GFX card then the MPX modules have higher bandwith too and the PCIe slots are v4 vs well, non existent
49erRedGold
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I'm actually not drawing any conclusions. I was quoting the article, which obviously you did not read. Take it up with MR if the article is inaccurate.
az431
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Apple can make a few hundred million phones a year, but under your novel theory can't keep up with demand for a computer with an averaging selling price of over $10,000.
Allrighty
az431
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The facts are that Mac Pros have been in production since early November, are sold out through the first week of January, and that Apple has no reason to curtail production.
Unless the factory burned to the ground last week, the only logical conclusion is that there is more than ample demand.
And just FYI, when a product is sold out it means that more people want it than are being produced.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Buying the Mac Pro w/o Afterburner is a big loss for anyone.
Chambers McMac
macrumors member
Cries on 2010 Mac Pro.
I've been trying to figure out what's up with the wheels, and it looks like you need to replace the whole aluminum bar that the feet are attached to - the ones that double as handles. That seems weird, since they could have just had them attach to the existing feet. Can anyone who gets their MP post a picture of the feet?
Stephen.R
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I think you’re underestimating the number of places that will make use of this.
A reasonable spec for dev/VM use (16c/~96GB/1tb) is about $50 a week over a 5 year life of the machine, and it likely has use long after that, (but it may not be running the latest macOS after 7 or so years), and that’s not even considering buying third party ram to either reduce the price or increase ram for the same price, nor does it consider selling the machine at the end (ie reducing the overall cost) or the value of keeping it for other tasks (greater value extracted from the investment).
Not on high-end systems where the vast majority of your sales are BTO. There's only so much inventory you can make in advance.
Apple is at the mercy of its suppliers, particularly silicon from Intel, AMD, but also RAM and flash suppliers. These systems are made from top-bin parts so they are fully involved in the silicon lottery.
Having kept track in the PC world, there's wide variations in availability of processors and GPUs; high-end CPUs are often backordered for 4-6 weeks. Then you have occasional periods of oversupply where they're offloading higher tier components for less money than lower tier ones.
Not when you have high-value custom products that are on a pull model, where you only start building when you get the order. Plus you get to wait for shipping of components from China.
It also requires capital investment to increase capacity. Plus even more money to decrease capacity (layoffs). That's why companies tend to have minimum capacity. As a direct comparison, high-end PC workstations are shipping in 3-4 weeks at this point, just like Apple.
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cmaier
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The wheels are definitely integrated into the assembly. You can not replace the feet with wheels.
DogHouseDub
macrumors 6502a
no white glove delivery for this?
More of a rubber glove...
Chambers McMac
macrumors member
Just two days after the Mac Pro first became available for purchase, the first orders have begun shipping out and are set to be delivered on Friday.
MacStadium's Brian Stucki ordered a couple of new Mac Pros right when Apple began accepting purchases, and his first Mac Pro is coming in just a few days on December 16, which is earlier than the delivery dates that Apple had listed.
Apple's initial delivery estimates were at one to two weeks after purchase, but orders placed now will not be delivered until December 31 to January 8 due to demand for the machine.
The 2019 Mac Pro is the first new Mac Pro we've had in six years, and it's the followup to the 2013 "trash can" Mac Pro that ultimately failed due to thermal limitations. Apple listened to the needs of professional users with this iteration and designed the updated machine to be modular and easily upgradeable.
Pricing on the Mac Pro starts at $5,999, but goes up depending on the configuration. It supports workstation-class Xeon processors with up to 28 cores, up to 1.5TB RAM, eight PCIe slots, 4TB SSD storage (soon to be 8TB) and dual Radeon Pro Vega Duo GPUs.
A fully equipped Mac Pro will cost over $52,000, with the price tag even higher for those who add Apple's $4,999 Pro Display XDR, a 6K display that's being sold alongside the Mac Pro.
With Mac Pro orders set to be in the hands of users starting next week, we should see additional impressions and opinions of the new machine. MacRumors has a new Mac Pro on the way, so expect to see some hands-on content as soon as our new device arrives.
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So from what I have been reading the only part to configure up on is the processor? Everything else can be upgraded over time?
ARAS Digital
macrumors newbie
Got ours earlier this morning, although it may help that we're in San Antonio, it was shipped from Round Rock, just north of Austin.
crescentmoon
Cancelled
Same weight as the mid 2010 mac pro....
now i see it
macrumors G4
Not really. Only the wealthy ones. More people than not didn't want the entry point for an under speced machine to be $6K
EdT
macrumors 68020
I think describing this as ‘Made in America’ is not anywhere near the truth, but it is assembled in Texas which means most of the components are already in the US, and probably have been for a little while anyway. That has to knock at least 2 days off of initial delivery dates.
brdeveloper
macrumors 68030
I'd buy the base one if it is as upgradeable as the 2012 Mac Pro (RAM, CPU, SSD, GPU). This way I'd could add parts for improving its performance for the next 10-15 years.
Unregistered 4U
macrumors G4
We absolutely know EXACTLY what users Apple was listening to. They provided a lot of detail.
The folks they were listening to
I’m sure it won’t surprise you that those folks included high level FCPX and Logic Pro users
What’s funny is that Safari is still snappier on an iPad Pro! /s
They have made a great monitor that’s not cheap, so you’re covered!
See - 10k computer sits next to a $3500 lens and $200 card reader. It all makes sense.
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The truly overpriced part of the Mac Pro are the wheels. They are $100 each. You need 4.
It's amusing that there's a ship notice from