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First Mac Pro Review Units Out in the Wild
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Amen. I miss the sub-$2k Power Mac. What a shame to leave that gap in the current lineup.
I agree with that. But I would have thought they would have given them the base config, Since it appears the BTO options from the start pushed the shipping dates for people buying it so far back?
I wonder how well Minecraft performs on that machine.
Incessant world holes, buggy, slow, renders 2 blocks a second.
Java's a bigger bottleneck than 5400RPM HDDs could ever be!
Ah, that'll be why I'm getting confused.
I genuinely had no idea the rest of Europe wrote it like that ... it seems so backwards. I guess this little island is more secluded from Europe than I first anticipated.
Little?
In Ireland we do it the same way.
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I doubt that Apple cares very much since it's a low-volume product and the people who are going to buy them are going to buy them. It's not really an expanding market.
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I love how The Verge says it's unassumingthat is until you actually start plugging things into it. Then it looks like an octopus! But I don't think it's so bad. Most of the things you plug into your Mac Pro are going to be external anyway aside from hard drives. I'd love to have one of these on my desk plugged into some crazy Thunderbolt drive array. While I could afford it, I can't justify the price. For the kind of work I do, I would benefit from 4K support, but not really the additional speed of the system. Hopefully by next Autumn or Spring 2015 we have 4K iMacs, even if introduced as a higher-tier item like the original rMBP. I'm also really disappointed that Thunderbolt accessories are still so extremely expensive. I'd like to have a little drive array that doesn't break the bank. Right now I have a 2TB G-Drive with eSATA to USB 3.0 adapter as my main media drive, and that backs up weekly to an older 2TB WD USB 2.0 drive. I've been getting creative to save space but it's going to run out soon.
I'm kind of stuck with the 15" rMBP. It's a great machine, amazing display, but as I get older (late 20s so I'm not that old but work on Macs all day) I'm noticing that the 15" is hard to work with at my home office. It's fine on my lap, but sits back further with external keyboard and everything else on my desk. My 27" DoubleSight IPS external display won't connect to my Mac anymore, it's been glitching out and something is wrong with it. The colors have shifted too far to color correct which is sad because it used to be a very accurate display. I'd like to get a Thunderbolt display but I wish Apple would update it with USB 3.0 so I can run everything off the monitor. I'd also prefer 4K, but that's going to be really expensive right now. Apple isn't selling their own model anyway which would have the nice Thunderbolt docking options that I like. Besides, I don't believe my 2012 rMBP can even run 4K, and even the 2013 models can only run at 30Hz. So I suppose I will wait to see if a 4K iMac ever comes out. Or maybe find a refurbished or used NEC that has good calibration that can get me by until then.
You know what I would buy? An IPS 100% sRGB monitor that runs 3360x2100 for $1000 or less. Close to 100% Adobe RGB would be preferred. Maybe my rMBP could run that at 60Hz? It's the equivalent of 1680x1050 at retina, which was the old resolution of my last MBP. That size is a bit more suitable for working. I'd love to have 1680x1050 desktop at retina on a monitor around 22". Has anyone seen something like this that would work with the 2012 rMBP?
Negative ghost rider unless I'm reading this article wrong...
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/11/05/6-core-version-of-apples-new-mac-pro-appears-in-benchmarks/
Me too. And hopefully the case has more of a charcoal-coloured brushed metal appearance. The inside of this Mac Pro looks better than the outside.
Yikes…for the past couple of months I have stated that it would be available for pre-order the last (working) day of fall which is 12/20 with an "in store" date of 2/14/14.
This is almost exactly what is going down.
I never wanted to be right about this. I was hoping to have one over the holidays to play with…rats.
Hope I didn't jinx this
This is almost exactly what is going down.
I never wanted to be right about this. I was hoping to have one over the holidays to play with…rats.
Hope I didn't jinx this
But Dell, HP and the rest of the PC manufacturers don't have Mac OS X. That's where the real kicker is. Looking at raw specs is one thing. But performance of a computer is defined by far more than that. It's defined by what it can ultimately do at the end of the day. So now tell me which machines are better with total cost of ownership in mind?
Guess what? then you're not European. Because this is what real Europeans use!
What I find fascinating is they built an entire factory to build this one machine? I wonder how quickly it can be refactored to build future generations? Let's hope the factory is state-of-the-art ahead of the rest.... that would be true innovation for Apple.
yeah, i don't know.. i'm willing to guess they have a thousand or so units set aside for promo..
also willing to bet they already have bto options made.. 8core/d700/1TB/32GB seems like one they probably already have at least a hundred or so premade..
but these are wild guesses. so- for what it's worth
Apple's prosumer/headless lineup has me scratching my head. There's the mini, which is a very nice little computer, maxing out at $1000 with integrated graphics. The next step up is the low-end Mac Pro with dual high-end radeons starting at $3000. There's nothing in between $1000 and $3000?
Personally, when I wanted a new work computer earlier this year (I'm a software engineer), I ended up buying parts and assembling it myself (runs Linux). The initial build was about $800 and surpassed the current Mac Mini in every single specification (except size, and arguably OS).
In fact, with the addition of a 256GB SSD (<$200), it approaches the specs of the low-end, $3000 Mac Pro. It has i7's instead of Xeons. (I'm not sure what the benefit of Xeon is on the desktop. I think of it as a data center chip.) I have one mid-range graphics card instead of 2 high ends. Are those differences worth $2000? Not even close, in my opinion.
For companies that are used to spending big bucks on hardware for very valuable tasks (high end graphics and video production, I guess), I'm sure they won't bat an eyelash at this. But for the average engineer or scientist working independently or at a small company?
The new Mac Pro looks great. I love the industrial design. I just hope Apple works their way back towards reasonable pricing for the prosumer market.
Personally, when I wanted a new work computer earlier this year (I'm a software engineer), I ended up buying parts and assembling it myself (runs Linux). The initial build was about $800 and surpassed the current Mac Mini in every single specification (except size, and arguably OS).
In fact, with the addition of a 256GB SSD (<$200), it approaches the specs of the low-end, $3000 Mac Pro. It has i7's instead of Xeons. (I'm not sure what the benefit of Xeon is on the desktop. I think of it as a data center chip.) I have one mid-range graphics card instead of 2 high ends. Are those differences worth $2000? Not even close, in my opinion.
For companies that are used to spending big bucks on hardware for very valuable tasks (high end graphics and video production, I guess), I'm sure they won't bat an eyelash at this. But for the average engineer or scientist working independently or at a small company?
The new Mac Pro looks great. I love the industrial design. I just hope Apple works their way back towards reasonable pricing for the prosumer market.
That's entirely subjective though. As someone who works on both Windows and OSX machines everyday, the OS doesn't factor much once I'm in the software I'm using.
