First Mac Pro Review Units Out in the Wild

[shaunp]

Sounds perfect, I'll just give Tim Cook a call and see what he thin--

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Actually I agree with the previous poster - there should be a Mac as well as the Mac Pro. It would cost me around £3700 to get a Mac Pro with the spec I want. That's about £1700 more than I'm willing to spend. The Mini doesn't cut it and the iMac is an all in one that I will never buy.

I'm sure Apple won't agree with me, but guess who's not getting my money...

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You can repeat it- and I'll long for it with you- but this wish has been made for 10+ years. Something along the lines of when pigs fly, hell freezes over, etc. seems to apply.

A wasted opportunity. Apple don't make a desktop that I would buy.

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Closest you'll get anytime soon is the next mini. Maybe someone will do a nice consumer level PCIe->Thunderbolt 2 video card enclosure for gaming. But Iris will be decent.

No it won't. Integrated graphics suck. Simple as.

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Amen. I miss the sub-$2k Power Mac. What a shame to leave that gap in the current lineup.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Snapjack]

Actually I agree with the previous poster - there should be a Mac as well as the Mac Pro. It would cost me around £3700 to get a Mac Pro with the spec I want. That's about £1700 more than I'm willing to spend. The Mini doesn't cut it and the iMac is an all in one that I will never buy.

I'm sure Apple won't agree with me, but guess who's not getting my money...

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A wasted opportunity. Apple don't make a desktop that I would buy.

I couldn't agree more. My old Mac Pro has been returned to Apple for so many issues they didn't want to see me anymore. The Mini I've used since has been trouble free. I want the new Mac Pro but I have a lot of things I'd rather spend money on or not spend money on. Apple has nothing for me at this point I want.

 

[handsome pete]

A wasted opportunity.

Well not according to them.

 

[jayducharme]

Negative ghost rider unless I'm reading this article wrong...

Yes, that was a Mac Pro (even deeper in the wild). However, it was pointed out that it might not have been running software optimized to take advantage of its unique system. So it basically benchmarked similar to other comparable multi-core machines. The Verge mentioned the new optimized FCPX, so I hope they put that software through its paces on the nMP and report back.

But they don't say what they were running when it was quiet.

They do. All they were doing with it was watching 4K video. (Well, that and rolling it across a table...)

 

[shaunp]

Well not according to them.

Yeah, and Apple are always right aren't they.

 

[cppguy]

No they're not, I'm European and nobody does that.

The decimal separator is a comma in the whole Europe and Russia, except in the UK. It's even called the decimal comma:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

On the other hand, the thousands separator varies. Sometimes space is used, but the dot is also common. Apostrophe is not unheard of, either. In East Asia, decimals are grouped in 4 (myriads), not 3 (thousands), to mimic their language.

In Europe the unit is sometimes before the number. In Italy I've seen road signs such as km 10. Note that I grew up and graduated in Central Europe, but live in the US now.

 

[ActionableMango]

I like it. It'll be a nice machine for many pros. But can I repeat my request for a headless desktop that uses desktop components, starts at $1000, and is very nicely configured for $1500?

People have been asking that of Apple for the last 200 years. There's even a term for it, xMac.

Okay, maybe not 200 years, but you get the point.

 

[linuxcooldude]

Too bad the base model is outperformed by desktops costing under a grand.

A 256GB SSD PCIe card costs nearly half of what your "Below $1k desktop" computer. And probably still slower then the speeds Apples getting.

And don't tell me that workstation graphics cards make a difference for the majority of people including pros. They don't. The d300's and d500's are both slower than a mid range gtx560 from last generation.

It matters to the pro's if these desktop graphic cards are guaranteed to work with their professional software applications, ( Some of which cost more then the card itself ) along with stability and reliability. Its something you get with workstation graphics.

 

[jonAppleSeed]

What I find fascinating is they built an entire factory to build this one machine? I wonder how quickly it can be refactored to build future generations? Let's hope the factory is state-of-the-art ahead of the rest.... that would be true innovation for Apple.

No, it's not manufactured in America. It's assembled. So all the need is a bunch of tables and some screwdrivers handy.

 

[juanm]

It's nice. Had they made it with an i7 and non ECC RAM I'd have gotten one for sure.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Apple's prosumer/headless lineup has me scratching my head. There's the mini, which is a very nice little computer, maxing out at $1000 with integrated graphics. The next step up is the low-end Mac Pro with dual high-end radeons starting at $3000. There's nothing in between $1000 and $3000?

Welcome to Apple's way of thinking for the last decade or more

Everybody has wanted the mythical xMac for years... yet Apple hasn't delivered.

Your only choices are:

* Tiny desktop Mini
* All-in-one iMac
* Mega workstation Mac Pro

 

[flat five]

black keyboard? black mouse? where is the consistency?

i think apple is done with the mouse.. they brought it in and they're going to take it out as well..

hopefully they're out there working on this stuff:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/2...or-3d-gesture-control-on-touchscreen-devices/
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/2...yboards-with-motion-control-to-replace-mouse/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/1...ng-virtual-3d-user-interface-for-ios-devices/

etc.

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if you want a good mouse which somewhat compliments the nmp in the process:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...910_001105_Performance_Mouse_MX_Wireless.html

thank me later

 

[WestonHarvey1]

No it won't. Integrated graphics suck. Simple as.

*Shrug*. I'm pretty impressed with how Battlefield 4 runs on Iris Pro 5200. It's not your grandfather's integrated graphics.

 

[Spinland]

if you want a good mouse which somewhat compliments the nmp in the process:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...910_001105_Performance_Mouse_MX_Wireless.html

Heh. I already use a nice, black wireless Logitech mouse, as well as an all-black Wacom. Just need Apple to make a keyboard to match.

 

[Codestud]

Apple needs to make a full-size wireless keyboard, which not only would look great with the minimalist nature of the new Mac Pro, but would also satisfy a lot of other people too.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

Heh. I already use a nice, black wireless Logitech mouse, as well as an all-black Wacom. Just need Apple to make a keyboard to match.

Try the Mac layout of this, backlit and everything:

http://codekeyboards.com/

 

[ChrisA]

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They do. All they were doing with it was watching 4K video. (Well, that and rolling it across a table...)

Sorry I mised that. Basically they were doing "nothing", so of course it was quiet.

 

[TallManNY]

When this thing gets set up in the Apple stores in NYC along with the 4K monitors, it is going to sell like crazy. Rich dudes are going to love it for the tech chops and their wives are going to love it for the beauty. They will sell tens of thousands that will never doing anything more challenging than run a YouTube video.

 

[jeremyschultz]

Oooh, shiny...

I know this was a very early first-impressions review, but I can't help but notice how so much emphasis is placed on how shiny and pretty it looks, like it's the next iPhone.

 

[Spinland]

Try the Mac layout of this, backlit and everything:

http://codekeyboards.com/

Interesting link, thanks for that.

 

[wazgilbert]

I think it might really be more of English speaking/not English speaking thing.

British £1,000.00
German €1.000,00

which confuses me greatly in financial discussions, what currency? what notation standard and what exchange rate?

 

[Shirke]

No, Thanks Apple

My Hackintosh running flawlessly!

 

[TallManNY]

No, it's not manufactured in America. It's assembled. So all the need is a bunch of tables and some screwdrivers handy.

The casing is made in the US and it is much more involved a process than just assembly.

 

[g4cube]

Does it supports Windows XP? xD

Yes, with VirtualPC running under Parallels...

 

[ElZeus]

Wow I didn't realize it was that small. Why the hell don't they build a mid-tier model (in between the mini/pro) for people that don't want an imac for $700-$800.