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In other words, The new Macbook Pro will already be outdated before it even launches. And dont even think about putting a headphone jack in this unit! I think everyone at Apple is tired of working already and just relaxing on a well deserved vacation. Please come back guys!

It will be interesting to watch how Apple distracts the focus away from the chosen CPUs and GPUs.
 
Why would Intel ship chips needed by Apple machines so much later than the ones for PCs? Why would they not want to maximize their profit potential???
Because they release the lowest power-consumption and lowest performance versions first. For a multitude of reasons probably: (a) they are lowest performance chips and thus its users notice any performance boost better, (b) they go into the smallest machines where battery life is limited by space and weight restrictions, any power consumption improvements will be noticed most, (c) these very small machines compete to some degree with tablets and thus ARM chips, Intel wants to offer its best in the area where it is under the most competition, (d) super small laptops is also where competition between computer brands is highest, they want the best chips as soon as possible, (e) there could be technical reasons, that producing the physically smallest and lowest clocked chips in a new platform first is easier.

And since Apple only uses a small fraction of the chips Intel offers, unless that fraction happened to be identical with the section of the chip line-up that Intel releases first (which it isn't), there will be chips released that Apple doesn't use that are released before the ones Apple uses. The PC manufacturers as an aggregate will release products with all the different CPU models from Intel (otherwise Intel would make them).
 
Apple seem to charge customers as if they are incorporating the latest technology, so why isn't Apple incorporating the best tech? Apple seems to appear to be half a year to a year behind in some cases. What exactly is preventing Apple from doing so?
Money and profits. They will rather buy old end of life Intel chips that cost a fraction of what they would be if they were new and than mark the price up as if it was a new Intel chip. As long as Apple still got customers and making sales, they won't care.
 
If Apple is going to kill off the Mac, they should tell us already so we can move on.

I prefer OSX, but there are decent alternatives now. I need to get work done with a computer.

Can't use an iPad toy and my 15" rMBP Macbook Pro is dead for the 4th time because of the nvidia GPU dying.
 
Let's just hope that Apple will pull some tricks of years past, and be the first company to start rolling out MBPs with Kaby Lake processors.

Yes, they must hurry, before Sammysung starts rolling out THEIR new MBPs.
:D
 
Skylake Iris processors are ready to ship, ready to go since June. What the f*ck are they waiting for?!
For other components of the new MBPs. If this had been merely a speedbump like Broadwell, we would have seen new MBPs in the second quarter. However, other aspects delayed things by a few months.
 
Apple seem to charge customers as if they are incorporating the latest technology, so why isn't Apple incorporating the best tech? Apple seems to appear to be half a year to a year behind in some cases. What exactly is preventing Apple from doing so?
Their all on vacation enjoying their riches. Lets hope the come back motivated to innovate.
 
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Intel doesn't pick and choose who buys their CPUs - anyone is free to buy them. Apple just doesn't buy the latest and greatest.

Why? Because they're cheap. They buy last gen parts and sell the computers as if they're next gen, and just rake in the profits.

Yah, quit spreading FUD. You know it's not as simple as that. They can't just drop in the latest processor at the last minute, it takes months of design work to prepare the next-gen machines, so they're built around the processors available in quantity at the time. Of course they _want_ to deliver the latest, if it was feasible.
 
If Apple is going to kill off the Mac, they should tell us already so we can move on.
Update cycle on new MBPs slips from 12 to 15 months, pundits predict this is a sign that Apple is killing the Mac. Somehow the word 'drama queen' comes to mind.
 
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PowerBook G5??? anyone?
I was actually quite interested to learn recently that they did actually have prototypes of that. And I do mean "prototype" like it was in an acrylic case. Apparently by the time the collector got his hands on it, it was no longer a g5 PowerBook but had an even more unusual item, a dual cpu board. A PowerBook g4 with dual CPUs. Wild.
 
If Apple is going to kill off the Mac, they should tell us already so we can move on.

I prefer OSX, but there are decent alternatives now. I need to get work done with a computer.

Can't use an iPad toy and my 15" rMBP Macbook Pro is dead for the 4th time because of the nvidia GPU dying.

So you're judging Apple's entire desktop/laptop computer lineup on your one faulty machine? :p Here's a mirror, my friend.
 
What exactly IS coming this year?
Are we getting a Macbook Air update?
or
Are we getting a new Macbook Pro?

Or are we getting both?

Last years rumours of the update Macbook lines ended up being false. So it is high time we see a refresh now. Or can Apple be stupid enough to postpone this another full year? I planned on updating last year, but nothing came, so I waited. Really need to upgrade soon. But I am not buying a minor upgrade. I want something new.

I'm beginning to think we are going to see a re-shuffled linup completely at this point.

MacBook (s) to use the 6.5w parts (Core M series)
the MacBook Air will be discontinued
MacBook Pro will use the 15w dual core ULVs

All the rumours keep pointing to a thinner, lighter, smaller "pro". I cannot see Apple keep using the quad core 28w parts and still being able to keep it cool and light, while shrinking the cooling to fit in a smaller chassis. Lets be honest, the current MBPRO chassis isn't significantly larger than the MBA as is.

Apple has already stopped using the Quad core 28w parts on other products. They've opted for the 15w ULV parts for their 21" iMacs and Mac Mini on last refreshes. Why is it unreasonable to think they may continue with the same and hit the Macbook Pro with the same changes
 
I find it wierd how everyone is suddenly caring about what processor Apple is gonna use. That was never the interesting thing before, when they were actually innovating with new products and designs almost on a yearly basis.
Huh? The MBP hasn't had a significant new design since the unibody in 2008. We don't get new Mac designs on a yearly basis.
 
Haters invade EVERY OTHER ARTICLE with "but what about MacBook Pro?" "why can they do XYZ and not MacBook Pro"...
Finally an article just for them, about the delivery schedule for the Intel chips Apple needs for new MacBook Pros.
So there is much rejoicing, right?
Nope, more hate. Pretty much the entire "most popular comments" section is full of hate.
Sigh.
 
Tim Cook - Apple in 2018 on MBP:
"We’ve got great innovation in the pipeline. We are going to give you things you can’t live without that you just don’t know you need today. That has always been the objective at Apple, to do things that really enrich people’s lives. That you look back on and you wonder, how did I live without this.”
 
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Apple was frustrated by the pace of PowerPC development when IBM started focusing more attention to developing processors for high-end servers. Mr. Jobs made the tough decision to transition to Intel processors because PowerPC wasn't keeping up. Now we have Intel putting its focus on very low power devices and leaving Apple without the processors it needs to refresh the Mac. Since Apple has its own ARM processor development team, we might see Apple focus on higher-end ARM processors and make another transition.
 
Apple was frustrated by the pace of PowerPC development when IBM started focusing more attention to developing processors for high-end servers. Mr. Jobs made the tough decision to transition to Intel processors because PowerPC wasn't keeping up. Now we have Intel putting its focus on very low power devices and leaving Apple without the processors it needs to refresh the Mac. Since Apple has its own ARM processor development team, we might see Apple focus on higher-end ARM processors and make another transition.


If this isn't the hardware version of Steve Job's flash argument from 2010...

We know from painful experience that letting a third party layer of software come between the platform and the developer ultimately results in sub-standard apps and hinders the enhancement and progress of the platform. If developers grow dependent on third party development libraries and tools, they can only take advantage of platform enhancements if and when the third party chooses to adopt the new features. We cannot be at the mercy of a third party deciding if and when they will make our enhancements available to our developers.
 
Apple was frustrated by the pace of PowerPC development when IBM started focusing more attention to developing processors for high-end servers. Mr. Jobs made the tough decision to transition to Intel processors because PowerPC wasn't keeping up. Now we have Intel putting its focus on very low power devices and leaving Apple without the processors it needs to refresh the Mac. Since Apple has its own ARM processor development team, we might see Apple focus on higher-end ARM processors and make another transition.

This +1

ARM is coming. Intel is over.
 
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