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Might I ask what apps you are missing from iOS in macOS?
The whole point for me is using an OS made for easy of use to try to be productive. Add always on, always connected to it too.
Well, I for one really like taking handwritten notes. So even if whatever I am using as a note taking app also has a counterpart in MacOS, it won’t have that crucial piece of functionality—support of the Apple Pencil for handwritten notetaking.
 
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It's a very cheap looking keyboard for the iPad Pro from Apple. There is nothing smart about the $300 accessories that doesn't even include a row of function keys and it's a disaster in the making if Apple forgot the philosophy of developing insanely great products.
Duh. Space is at a premium; the keyboard needs to fit the size of the iPad after all. I’d rather have full size keys and no function keys than have smaller keys scrunched together to permit a row of function keys.
 
Did you consider staying in line, receiving the keyboard and returning it after testing it?
Pretty much what I’m doing. Starting to have issues with my MBP and want to test the water for the future- Am I comfortable using it to bridge the gap from my iPhone all the way to my Mac Pro?
I did but decided instead to wait and see as more info came in. It’s easier for me to wait and purchase later than to work out a return if I decide I just have to go for it. I dont like to return things. I thought about leaving it at my desk since that is the main location I use a keyboard and swapping to the keyboard folio when I got up but well, again just decided to wait and see. The keyboard folio with magic trackpad is pretty workable. The trackpad stays at the desk when I’m sitting there and its not something that goes with me. I really like the magic keyboard and I like the improvement of the keyboard keys for the times I am in that mode just not sure yet that I am sold on it being a better solution for me. I have no typing issues with my folio, confortable at this point having used it daily. I dont need backlit keys, I never even look at them I just naturally know where my fingers need to be to type since I do it so much or at least I am not sitting in a competely dark room typing. Anyhow, yes I thought about it. I stared at the screen for a while before I hit cancel. They will be available after the first rush so its not a one and only purchase opportunity.
 
Am I taking crazy pills or something? Why are so many people complaining about being able to flip it around like the smart folios? Just take it off and leave the magic keyboard in your bag on on your desk OR buy a smart folio product instead.

Clearly this is meant as a way to make the iPad Pro more like a laptop/laptop type of docking station and add a trackpad.

My concerns are it does look a bit wobbly but I kind of expected that and honestly, it’s probably less wobbly than I originally expected. Without using it yet, it might have been nice if you could push the screen back further but the weight balancing doesn’t seem to allow that. Lastly it seems to look like the materials aren’t the nicest quality. Force touch track pad would have been nice to hot have that moving part. Not being able to use the USB to connect to other peripherals is a bit of a bummer but at least you can charge and use the iPads port for that.

I recently replaced my faulty Brydge keyboard on warranty and I’m enjoying that experience a lot more though it’s heavy, not the best key feel IMO and a bit of a pain to remove and a bit pain to put back in. If I didn’t already have the Brydge I’d definitely consider the magic keyboard but the price right now is a bit of a hard sell.
I decided to experiment with my Smart Keyboard Folio to see if I could simulate the Magic Keyboard for the purpose of assessing how wobbly the Magic Keyboard would be. I pulled the iPad’s bottom off the Smart Keyboard slot and then shook the keyboard with unsupported iPad around. There was no give whatsoever. So I suspect concerns about the Magic Keyboard being unstable or wobbly might actually not be an issue. Can’t wait until mine arrives so I can put that to the test!
 
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Oh yes, he flies like an eagle and swims like a shark...
Ridiculous.....🤦‍♂️ Yes evolution has totally failed with the many duck species, some of which actually live on or in water (swimming and diving). Some migrate large distances by...flying.

Do humans swim like a shark and fly like an eagle?

It is still a poor analogy, accept it.
 
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One thing that I haven’t seen included in the litany of complains:
What is the proper way to open this thing up? There isn’t any cutout like there is on the MacBooks where you can force separation between the two halves. You just have to kind of pick a place along the edge and try to squeeze it open. Not as much of a problem on the current keyboards because there’s no hinge that you’re working against.
 
One thing that I haven’t seen included in the litany of complains:
What is the proper way to open this thing up? There isn’t any cutout like there is on the MacBooks where you can force separation between the two halves. You just have to kind of pick a place along the edge and try to squeeze it open. Not as much of a problem on the current keyboards because there’s no hinge that you’re working against.
Is this post sarcastic or a serious question?
 
One thing I noticed in several videos I watched is that the user needs to apply toooooo much force just to open it. And there are two hinges, so two movements for the user. It's too much complicated just to open it and adjust the angle/position. Opposed to a notebook which is much easier and fast to open/adjust and close several times all day long.

The iPad with this keyboard looks clumsy, it's like a duck. The duck tries to do three things: fly, run and swim, so as he tries to be everything, he ends up not being good in any of those three tasks in particular.

A MacBook has that thin and elegant aluminum chassis with the screen firmly attached to it. It can not do everything, but what he does he does very well.

A very good point about what is exactly wrong with the clumsy keyboard that does not do any magic for the tablet from Apple.

It's far from magic and absolutely not worth over $200 or $300 with low-grade material for the chassis and utterly overpriced.
 
A very good point about what is exactly wrong with the clumsy keyboard that does not do any magic for the tablet from Apple.

It's far from magic and absolutely not worth over $200 or $300 with low-grade material for the chassis and utterly overpriced.
Making such sweeping statements based on 2 amateur YouTube reviews is funny.

Like many others I’ll decide for myself and use Apple’s no questions asked returns policy if it’s not good enough.
 
Making such sweeping statements based on 2 amateur YouTube reviews is funny.

Like many others I’ll decide for myself and use Apple’s no questions asked returns policy if it’s not good enough.
It’s a real video and it’s not hard to make assumptions-ruins based off of a real video.
 
It’s a real video and it’s not hard to make assumptions-ruins based off of a real video.
You’ve been pathologically posting your hatred for this product since the first low res YouTubd vid dropped, so I think you’ve made your mind up no matter what.

It's your call of course :) I for one will be making my own mind up from physically touching and using it.
 
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I know this isn't going to be a popular post, but c'mon Apple £349 for this. Have Apple lost their minds. I've been an Apple user and fan for many years, but I'm starting to get annoyed with Apple's price gouging and "think we know best" attitude just lately. Adding a keyboard and mouse to the iPad Pro, just proves Microsoft were right all along about the 2 in 1 devices (not necessarily about the OS).

If Apple are going to start charging laptop prices, they need to start offering things like Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for the iPad Pro.
Apple and Microsoft are arriving at broadly similar places, but by very different paths. Microsoft has been experimenting with tablet PCs since the early 1990s. They tried to take a desktop OS and make mobile and tablet OSes out of them. Apple essentially started from scratch with a touch-oriented mobile OS (Steve Jobs’s “iPhone runs OS X” exaggeration notwithstanding) and has been adding desktop features to it. Apple’s approach was better suited to the technology that existed in 2010, and let them essentially create the tablet market that Microsoft had long struggled to do. Of course, Microsoft hasn’t stood still, and has added touch-oriented modes and features to Windows 10 (after first botching it with Windows 8).
 
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You’ve been pathologically posting your hatred for this product since the first low res YouTubd vid dropped, so I think you’ve made your mind up no matter what.

It's your call of course :) I for one will be making my own mind up from physically touching and using it.
I don’t hate the product. I’m just saying that seeing a demonstration of the product is enough for people to form an a opinion. Like seeing someone getting burned is enough for me not to want to be burned. I’m not trying to upset anyone, it’s just a very un -Apple product.
 
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I don’t hate the product. I’m just saying that seeing a demonstration of the product is enough for people to form an a opinion. Like seeing someone getting burned is enough for me not to want to be burned. I’m not trying to upset anyone, it’s just a very un -Apple product.
In your opinion.

I think the comparison of seeing someone burned is extreme and misleading as well.

Just seems weird you’ve spent so much time and posts slagging the keyboard, calling it cheap and so on, off of a few homemade, often one-handed and oddly lit, YouTube reviews. And why it wasn’t enough to state your disdain once.

Anyway, I’m not here to argue. It’s quite late here and I’m winding down. I respect your opinion, just find it bewildering just how many posts you’ve dedicated to slating everything about it. If we were all the same he world would be boring I guess.
 
Honestly, the more I look at that keyboard and trackpad, particularly in that shot on the scale, the more generic and tacky it looks.

Apple designed this?
And it‘s three and a half bills?
🤮

We can't deny that Microsoft put significant effort in making it look more modern and full-size trackpad.


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Apple and Microsoft are arriving at broadly similar places, but by very different paths. Microsoft has been experimenting with tablet PCs since the early 1990s. They tried to take a desktop OS and make mobile and tablet OSes out of them. Apple essentially started from scratch with a touch-oriented mobile OS (Steve Jobs’s “iPhone runs OS X” exaggeration notwithstanding) and has been adding desktop features to it. Apple’s approach was better suited to the technology that existed in 2010, and let them essentially create the tablet market that Microsoft had long struggled to do. Of course, Microsoft hasn’t stood still, and has added touch-oriented modes and features to Windows 10 (after first botching it with Windows 8).
Totally agree. Microsoft was too large and lumbering while having to drag along all its legacy (and some really bad management). Microsoft is a little more streamlined these days and the Surface team are making good progress, in a few years I think they will have nailed it. This also means Apple will as well. Apple has had 10 years to get where they are with the ipad today. The Surface program is a little younger. Good times ahead for all consumers.
 
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We can't deny that Microsoft put more effort in making it to look more modern and full-size trackpad.


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But that’s the Surface Book, which is basically a MacBook Pro-class notebook that happens to turn into a bulky tablet if necessary. Could Apple have taken a similar path? Perhaps, but then the keyboard part of it would be even heavier.

The Surface Pro is closer to the iPad Pro. That relies on the hinged stand, plus a keyboard that magnetically connects to the bottom of the screen.
 
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Has to be a bug. I only purchased mine in February

could be a stuck accelerometer - if they work in other applications (e.g. games, garage band), it's a software bug. i had this happen multiple times on my ipad since 2010 - nothing a reset (shortly press the volume up button, then the volume down button and then hold the power button until the apple logo appears)
 
Does anyone else get annoyed by videos where they hold the camera and try to do everything one-handed! I usually have to stop watching as soon as someone tries to attempt something one-handed and it makes it look so awkward!

Better than nothing, though.
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could be a stuck accelerometer - if they work in other applications (e.g. games, garage band), it's a software bug. i had this happen multiple times on my ipad since 2010 - nothing a reset (shortly press the volume up button, then the volume down button and then hold the power button until the apple logo appears)

Have you tried toggling orientation lock? Always fixes the issue for me (but of course we could be experiencing the same issue with different causes).
 
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I don't like the new keyboard cover. It's too basic. It's 2020, why couldn't they take a leaf out of Microsoft's, Samsungs etc book. Seperate kick stand, magnetic tilt on the keyboard for comfort. I mean even a split cover like the tab s6 so you don't have to fold the keyboard round would be better than this horse ****.
 
it’s just a very un -Apple product.

i disagree - this Keyboard is a very Apple solution to an existing problem. When it was rumoured, people were wondering if it would have a kickstand or have two viewing angles, just like their keyboard folio. Instead they’ve come up with this “floating” iPad with adjustable viewing angles.

Whether you like the product or not, you have to admire the design of it surely?
 
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