Magic? It wasn’t magic, it was science. It was alllll sciencethey had gone from a ball to a sensor. That was magic
You know, if an ARM MacBook is efficient enough to have the CPU and internals in the display panel, the canilever’ed design might be an interesting result. You could even have a USB-C port on either end of the baseAnd rumors are pointing to an ARM MacBook soon.
I have seen this in the past but, for me, it usually just takes rotating my iPad Pro 180 degrees.I often have to go to control center before the bug goes away.
And the ever popular, “Other companies may make a thing that suits my needs, but theirs doesn’t come with an Apple logo on it, so it’s absolutely unsuitable. EITHER APPLE MAKES WHAT I WANT OR I’M NOT BUYING!” :}That's always the case. The attitude is "I have no need for this...therefore NO ONE has a need for this".
Well, PLUS they have to make things that a fairly decent number of people will buy. In the end, if people don’t like this product, it will likely be due more to their personal experience with it than whether or not the media that covers them gives them a pass.It's always easy for Apple to hit home runs when the media that covers them lobs slow grapefruits over the plate all the time.
Maybe it’s because it’s another reminder of where Apple’s focus is nowadays. And, will likely continue to be.Frankly I don’t understand the hate regarding the Magic Keyboard case.
That’s not lately, that’s pretty much their entire history. It’s the way they operate. They’ve always been more expensive than other options and they’ve always done the “we know best” thing (no legacy ports on the iMac). The difference is whether or not you agree with them knowing best. If you felt that giving up SCSI was worth getting USB, then you’d be fine with “we know best”. They still think they know best as they always have, but there’s a new generation of folks that are deciding “yeah, I’m fine with what they think is best”.Apple's price gouging and "think we know best" attitude just lately.
Not unfortunate. Apple is focusing their marketing and products on a completely different demographic now. The fact that they are not making products that you like is to be expected after a time.my Gen 2 iPad Pro may be my last.
Unfortunate...
Because for me, the iPad never comes out of the SKF case. I use it 90% of the time with the keyboard folded back behind it.Considering it weighs about 590g, you wouldn’t want to flip it back and keep holding it while using the iPad as a tablet. I find doing that with the current SKF already cumbersome and don’t understand the fascination with this capability. Just popping it out of the folio is far easier and less unwieldy.
That being said, the weight is crazy. That’s heavier than the 11” Brydge Pro+ and that thing’s made out of aluminum. I have the OG version for my 12.9” and my biggest criticism of it is its weight. I love the feel and look but it’s a brick.
If Brydge would just update the Pro+ to have full gesture capabilities, looks like it might be a better overall solution—much better viewing angle options, extra function row, better build quality.
I have a Magic Keyboard coming this week but I’m having reservations on whether it’s a worthwhile replacement for my SKF.
This year's version can rotate 0°, you get to the same position as rotating 360°... 😂Last year's version can also fold COMPLETELY 360° to the backside
Do you use a case DNichter? I would likely have kept my order for the Magic Keyboard but since I already own the Smart Keyboard Folio, also not cheap, and really enjoy the case and relative compactness. I also move around all the time between home, class, study halls, etc. I keep my MacBook Pro and iPad Pro in my book bag all the time, another reason why I cancelled my magic keyboard order.
This actually ticks all the boxes. They should consider this design for the Pros. Maybe they don't think they'll get the volume of sales when going against Apples offerings?Uhhh...for those like me that so many are claiming are being negative, instead of being critical and wanting more from a company we love...I present you the Logitech Combo Touch.
The linked product is NOT for the iPad Pro but seems like it could have been a perfectly viable replacement to the Smart Keyboard Folio, possibly in addition to the Magic Keyboard.
Backlit keys...check
Function key row...check
Infinitely adjustable kickstand...check
Instantly detachable keyboard...fine, since it doesn’t appear to be able to fold behind iPad
Trackpad...check (this format could also support larger version that Magic Keyboard)
$150...check
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/combo-touch.html?crid=1762
This is the product I said I wanted Apple to have made. Yes, it’s not as lappable...and this and that. But if anyone could have figured it out, it would be Apple.
Apple’s version would obviously have been more expensive than the Logitech one, but I have no doubt they would have made it better in every way.
No, I’m actually dead serious. These people look to be struggling while opening it up and it always looks awkward. You know how there’s that little indentation in the middle of the MacBook bases to put your finger in to ease separation? I’m surprised they didn’t incorporate something like that. An obvious place to separate it from. If there is less force required to open than it looks then it won’t be an issue, but we’ll see.Is this post sarcastic or a serious question?
This is VERY true...
And unfortunately, true for much of what Apple has been up to lately.
Many folks will say: "Jobs is dead. Move on." But the reality of it is, Jobs was all about form and function -- combined. This keyboard misses that on many bullet points. I would say the latest two versions of the iPad miss them as well (overly thin -- form losing out to functionality). The latest iPad OS misses -- it's stale and multitasking is a joke, the touch strip on the Macbook Pro misses, Catalina is a mess, the last version of the Macbook keyboard definitely misses. I could go on and on.
Apple has lost its path under Cook. Are they making money? Absolutely. Are they losing customers? Maybe not yet, but I've seen a lot more disappointment on this site over the past couple of years than I thought I would on a fan site -- and it's definitely more disappointment than I used to see here.
Cook got Apple over the bridge from Jobs, but he's overstayed his welcome as far as I'm concerned. We need new blood for this company. I never in a million years thought I'd be eyeballing the competition as much as I have over the past couple of years. 2020 may very well see me going to the Surface Pro X and an Android phone. I'm not quite there yet with my Macbook, but with a Surface Pro X, I might wander away a bit more there, too.
It's time for a new visionary and new management. Thank you Tim for what you've done, but it's time to leave.
I have a magic keyboard on order for my new 12.9 iPad Pro. I live most of the time these days in Thailand. On the US apple.com/en-us website there are about 8 languages supported so I had assumed that the Thai version wouldn't be released until later. Then I saw these videos on 9-5 Mac and the first two are in Thai. So I went back to the US site and of course no Thai so I called support who said they couldn't get anything not listed. I checked apple.com/th and sure enough the bi-lingual keyboard is listed. The support person said (very helpfully NOT) that I could cancel my current order and order from Thailand.
The first Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro orders have begun arriving to some customers ahead of schedule, and some have posted hands-on videos online.
Seven videos from two iPad Pro users have appeared online so far, offering the first close look at the new Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro.
The first video appeared in Thai, featuring the unboxing experience of the Magic Keyboard. Other videos by the same user have given a look at the USB-C port on the hinge of the Magic Keyboard, which is used for passthrough charging, as well as the brightness of the backlit keys.
There have since been four videos in English by YouTube user MrExitStrategy, covering many of the new key features. The first of these shows the hinge system of the case, which provides a "floating" cantilevered design for smooth viewing angle adjustments of up to 130 degrees.
There is also a look at the preferences pane of the Magic Keyboard in the Settings app, revealing that the keyboard backlighting brightness may be changed manually or automatically adjusted based on ambient lighting conditions.
The most recent video offers a more detailed comparison of the Magic Keyboard with the Smart Folio Keyboard, and walks through some of the new trackpad gestures in iPadOS 13.4. This video suggests that the trackpad uses a mechanical click rather than haptic feedback. The cantilevered design is tested for stability, including for use with Apple Pencil.
Earlier this week, the Magic Keyboard became available for order online alongside the new iPhone SE, and most deliveries are expected to begin arriving next week.
Article Link: First Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro Hands-On Videos Appear Online
I highly doubt that’s what holding logitech back. Apple and Logitech probably entered into some agreement that prohibits them from releasing one just yet- otherwise they would have released their version with their other offering.This actually ticks all the boxes. They should consider this design for the Pros. Maybe they don't think they'll get the volume of sales when going against Apples offerings?
So what happens if you power both the folio port and the iPads port? Boom?
Uhhh...for those like me that so many are claiming are being negative, instead of being critical and wanting more from a company we love...I present you the Logitech Combo Touch.
The linked product is NOT for the iPad Pro but seems like it could have been a perfectly viable replacement to the Smart Keyboard Folio, possibly in addition to the Magic Keyboard.
Backlit keys...check
Function key row...check
Infinitely adjustable kickstand...check
Instantly detachable keyboard...fine, since it doesn’t appear to be able to fold behind iPad
Trackpad...check (this format could also support larger version that Magic Keyboard)
$150...check
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/combo-touch.html?crid=1762
This is the product I said I wanted Apple to have made. Yes, it’s not as lappable...and this and that. But if anyone could have figured it out, it would be Apple.
Apple’s version would obviously have been more expensive than the Logitech one, but I have no doubt they would have made it better in every way.
Why wouldn’t you want Logitec to have made it? Or anyone else? If enough people want this type of keyboard, someone will make it because there’s a huge market to be served, of course.This is the product I said I wanted Apple to have made.
Uhhh...for those like me that so many are claiming are being negative, instead of being critical and wanting more from a company we love...I present you the Logitech Combo Touch.
The linked product is NOT for the iPad Pro but seems like it could have been a perfectly viable replacement to the Smart Keyboard Folio, possibly in addition to the Magic Keyboard.
Backlit keys...check
Function key row...check
Infinitely adjustable kickstand...check
Instantly detachable keyboard...fine, since it doesn’t appear to be able to fold behind iPad
Trackpad...check (this format could also support larger version that Magic Keyboard)
$150...check
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/combo-touch.html?crid=1762
This is the product I said I wanted Apple to have made. Yes, it’s not as lappable...and this and that. But if anyone could have figured it out, it would be Apple.
Apple’s version would obviously have been more expensive than the Logitech one, but I have no doubt they would have made it better in every way.
I’m sure Apple thought of this, but had reasons for leaving it to Logitech for the lower-end iPads (Apple reportedly worked with Logitech on this). I liked the ability of the Smart Keyboard Folio to fold back, though the original model that had the second flap was somewhat better since it was awkward having nonworking keys in folded back mode. I’ll get my Magic Keyboard on Tuesday, so I’ll see for myself, but I think I’ll get used to pulling my iPad Pro off the keyboard when I want to use it to take notes, etc.Uhhh...for those like me that so many are claiming are being negative, instead of being critical and wanting more from a company we love...I present you the Logitech Combo Touch.
The linked product is NOT for the iPad Pro but seems like it could have been a perfectly viable replacement to the Smart Keyboard Folio, possibly in addition to the Magic Keyboard.
Backlit keys...check
Function key row...check
Infinitely adjustable kickstand...check
Instantly detachable keyboard...fine, since it doesn’t appear to be able to fold behind iPad
Trackpad...check (this format could also support larger version that Magic Keyboard)
$150...check
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/combo-touch.html?crid=1762
This is the product I said I wanted Apple to have made. Yes, it’s not as lappable...and this and that. But if anyone could have figured it out, it would be Apple.
Apple’s version would obviously have been more expensive than the Logitech one, but I have no doubt they would have made it better in every way.
This is VERY true...
And unfortunately, true for much of what Apple has been up to lately.
Many folks will say: "Jobs is dead. Move on." But the reality of it is, Jobs was all about form and function -- combined. This keyboard misses that on many bullet points. I would say the latest two versions of the iPad miss them as well (overly thin -- form losing out to functionality). The latest iPad OS misses -- it's stale and multitasking is a joke, the touch strip on the Macbook Pro misses, Catalina is a mess, the last version of the Macbook keyboard definitely misses. I could go on and on.
It's time for a new visionary and new management. Thank you Tim for what you've done, but it's time to leave.
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Weight of new iPad magic keyboard?
The answer is that the 12.9 is 710g (1.57 lbs) just on its own, and 1.36k (3 lbs) with the iPad attached. It’s HEAVY. Mine arrived today. If you’re going to use it on a desk, or as a dock, fine. But I agree with Meboy - why am I going to carry this around as well as a MBP? Pretty sure I’m...forums.macrumors.com
Weight of 12.9” iPad magic keyboardis 710g
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Weight of new iPad magic keyboard?
The answer is that the 12.9 is 710g (1.57 lbs) just on its own, and 1.36k (3 lbs) with the iPad attached. It’s HEAVY. Mine arrived today. If you’re going to use it on a desk, or as a dock, fine. But I agree with Meboy - why am I going to carry this around as well as a MBP? Pretty sure I’m...forums.macrumors.com
Weight of 12.9” iPad magic keyboardis 710g