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First Time Not Excited
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Pretty much. Ask a lot of these guys what the other companies have done innovative and they say 4.5-6" screens. Samsung couldn't even figure out what to do to differentiate the S4 from the S3 so they threw in a bunch of half baked air gestures and other poorly thought out features. Other than bigger screens, none of them are doing any better than Apple in terms of "innovation".
HTC Really???? Apple sued them for copying and patent infringement. They settled out of court, now Apple makes more money off the HTC one than HTC. Samsung???? Be specific.
Actually, I believe that was the One X you're referencing, not the One.
Sure, there are a lot of features on phones like the S4 that the normal person doesn't use. But there are other features that people like me use on a daily basis. The camera, for one. Apple slaps some filters in the iOS 7 camera app and says look what we did! Samsung's camera app, on the other hand is incredible. You can tweak it in a hundred different ways to get just what you want (on the fly).
Then there are the standard Android things. Being able to select what keyboard or browser you want to use. A maps app that actually works. A file system.
Again, if people want to bury their heads in the sand and believe their iPhone is on the cutting edge of tech and better than everything else out there, that's fine. That's their prerogative. But I truly believe that's only because they either haven't or don't want to try the alternatives. If you don't have first hand experience with what else is available, you don't get to say what's the best for the masses. If it's best for you, good on ya. BTW, using a Galaxy S2 2-3 years ago doesn't make one qualified. Android has come a LONG way since those days.
Sure, there are a lot of features on phones like the S4 that the normal person doesn't use. But there are other features that people like me use on a daily basis. The camera, for one. Apple slaps some filters in the iOS 7 camera app and says look what we did! Samsung's camera app, on the other hand is incredible. You can tweak it in a hundred different ways to get just what you want (on the fly).
Then there are the standard Android things. Being able to select what keyboard or browser you want to use. A maps app that actually works. A file system.
Again, if people want to bury their heads in the sand and believe their iPhone is on the cutting edge of tech and better than everything else out there, that's fine. That's their prerogative. But I truly believe that's only because they either haven't or don't want to try the alternatives. If you don't have first hand experience with what else is available, you don't get to say what's the best for the masses. If it's best for you, good on ya. BTW, using a Galaxy S2 2-3 years ago doesn't make one qualified. Android has come a LONG way since those days.
The iPhone 5 was a nice upgrade for me, however, if the rumors for the 5S are true there will be nothing exciting about it and I'll just stick with my 5 for awhile longer.
still waiting for the innovation part. The camera and keyboard, is that the best u got! there are 3rd party apps for that.
Android has not come a long way. Just ask Samsung and google, both plan to drop android for other operating systems. Android was never a long term solution.
So where is the innovation you spoke of in these examples? Camera filtering? Yeah it sucks that its not standard but there are $.99 apps in the store that do that. Changing the keyboard? Really?
So a tweaky camera app (never seen one of those before) and a file system, circa 1950. Given a direct challenge to identify all this android "innovation" that's genuinely the best you could do?
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Apple will probably just re-release its video from last years event as the iPhone 5s is identical to the 5. Nothing new, boring stuff, just go home. When Apple gets serious about competing in the smartphone business I am sure they will come up with more WOW factors, but this year is just "So Last Year" and not worth the attention or anyones time. Steve has left the building for good and now we see what happens with his absence.
Apple will probably just re-release its video from last years event as the iPhone 5s is identical to the 5. Nothing new, boring stuff, just go home. When Apple gets serious about competing in the smartphone business I am sure they will come up with more WOW factors, but this year is just "So Last Year" and not worth the attention or anyones time. Steve has left the building for good and now we see what happens with his absence.
You know...I was going to politely respond to each of these comments, as it would be great to actually have a conversation around here. But since the Fanboys seems to love coming into the Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices portion of the forum to jump all over someone that isn't an iSheep and make themselves feel better, I think I'll pass.
You guys just keep blindly believing that your little 4", locked down, walled garden of a phone is the bees knees. Again, if it works for you, great...enjoy it. However, there are those of us that aren't scared of Android or Windows Phone and are willing to open ourselves up to new things. In doing that, some of us realize that the blissful experience that Apple tells us we need isn't as blissful as they say.
Enjoy your day, folks. I'm done.
The thing is, the irony here, is it's that walled garden that's the innovation here. Being "open", having a file system, those aren't new, not to android and not to phones generally. I had Symbian phones ten, eleven years ago that were just as open. They were also terrible.
If you think a bigger screen in innovation then you are not really understanding what is going on. If you look at all the features of the new phones, there are plenty of new things that you may use or not.
Many people dismiss this by saying, I'll never use that feature, but for each person that doesn't use it, there is someone else that will.
The point is, these companies are trying to bring new things that are not present today. That is innovation.
And what does apple give us? new colorful skinny font OS system. Really Apple?
This entire thread just shows what an interesting predicament Apple is in. It's sort of a no-win scenario for them. I've been reading in various blogs just how much the whole IOS/Android thing is like the betamax/VHS wars of the early 80s. It just becomes a numbers game and I can't see how Apple can really win. In many ways they are the 80s Sony of this era. The real ace in the hole is that their products are quality, consistent and pretty bulletproof and that's the main reason I stay ... well, that and the fact that it's nice having the same apps on both my iPhone and and iPad and only paying for them once. I don't want a cheaply made phone with buggy apps. But I do want Apple to feel the heat from us "first time not excited" users ... and I'm sure they do.
It's hard not to get the "S" doldrums, especially when you own a something like the iPhone 4 or 5.
Too much predictability can be agitating.
Personally I am taking a year off from Apple and enjoying my Galaxy S4 and will be alternating with my iPhone 5 once iOS 7 drops.
In fact iOS 7 is more exciting to me than the prospect of iPhone 5S
Too much predictability can be agitating.
Personally I am taking a year off from Apple and enjoying my Galaxy S4 and will be alternating with my iPhone 5 once iOS 7 drops.
In fact iOS 7 is more exciting to me than the prospect of iPhone 5S
Despite what some say, the iPhone 5 was an amazing upgrade. They upgraded basically every component, in a much thinner and lighter body to boot.
Don't see how you can top that this year - sure the new hardware features like a fingerprint scanner and dual LEDs will be cool, but probably not enough to make me upgrade rather than wait for the 6.
Don't see how you can top that this year - sure the new hardware features like a fingerprint scanner and dual LEDs will be cool, but probably not enough to make me upgrade rather than wait for the 6.
My question was serious since I took your comment seriously - I was wondering what all the features were. But I guess since you realized you didn't actually have an answer for your statement you'll take - "you are all stupid and I'm not" attitude.
I undertand people who have questions or concerns but why people who obvioulsy have no like for Apple iPhone products both to come to a forum about an Apple product.....And then they claim the rest of the world has a closed attitude.
windows phones what's that? You do realize your on a Apple forum? FYI in order to have a constructive conversation one must reply to actual questions being asked eg. What has Samsung innovated?
I want to know why people are so obsessed with a new design. All you can really gain from it is a bigger screen, which is a valid want obviously, but there are people who cry out for a redesign because they are 'bored'. I don't get it. Change for the sake of change is not a good thing sometimes. If the 5>5S included all the features that the 6 would have, but stayed in the same 5 form factor everyone would say it's not "innovative" and is "boring". Samsung just did the same thing from the GS3>GS4 but I don't see anyone saying it's "boring". Underwhelming maybe but not even because it looks the same. The GS4 was viewed as underwhelming by some people because of the features they introduced, not the case design.
What's the big deal with case design?
What's the big deal with case design?
You must have nothing better to spend your money on. Assuming, of course, you already have a 5 and will be paying full-cost for the 5S. But to each their own. I would never spend $600+ on a phone outright. That's what upgrades and contracts are for. Verizon is already screwing me. I'm waiting for a redesign on the 6 myself. I'm eligible to upgrade the last week of June 2014. Based on prior releases when will we be seeing the 6?
Well, every novelty wears off eventually. But things are about the same with the other platforms as well. Android and WP are stalling even worse, with no real innovation to be seen anywhere in the field.
More cores, more RAM, few more megapixels, giant screens. None of that brings any REAL improvement in day to day experience.
Where is the new generation of batteries that can last a month?
Where are the flexible hi-res screens, the concept of which has been around for over a decade now?
Where is the integrated projector, that can give you the big screen experience anywhere you like?
And just look at what Samsung is advertising as innovative and leading features of their flagship - software gimmicks that almost never work correctly, except in lab conditions.
More cores, more RAM, few more megapixels, giant screens. None of that brings any REAL improvement in day to day experience.
Where is the new generation of batteries that can last a month?
Where are the flexible hi-res screens, the concept of which has been around for over a decade now?
Where is the integrated projector, that can give you the big screen experience anywhere you like?
And just look at what Samsung is advertising as innovative and leading features of their flagship - software gimmicks that almost never work correctly, except in lab conditions.
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I feel you. I've only invested $2,737 on Apple products in my lifetime. Because they didn't come out with a retina MacBook Air, they lost $1,399 this year, and if the new iPhone doesn't improve more than what they're saying, $700 will be lost.