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Whether I buy one will depend on the teardown confirmation regarding user upgradability. At that price i'm not paying Apple to install RAM or their expensive SSDs. I would welcome a PC equivalent if I had faith in its longevity and OS. Otherwise I'm putting up with an obsolete machine

Everything is soldered to the board and the SSD if it is removable will be using Apples proprietary connector. I can tell you that now.
 
A friend got her non-Touch Bar 13 today....hopefully, the Touch Bar versions will ship soon!
 
I refreshed the apple site and ordered as soon as it arrived on the site: I got this date:
Before: Ships: 2-3 weeks Delivers 11 Nov - 18 Nov by Ekspresslevering


Now they just changed it, without even emailing me about it? Pls apple?
after: Ships: 2-3 weeks Delivers 18 Nov - 25 Nov by Ekspresslevering

what the ****? Why do they not notify me?!
I'm still mad about this. Why do they stuff like this? Am I not important enough for 'em because I live in Norway?
 
if anyone from here is on the list, Excited to hear your opinions/reviews! let us know when they're in. This is a very nice looking device.
 
I'm still mad about this. Why do they stuff like this? Am I not important enough for 'em because I live in Norway?

Come on man. You literally live in a country, that you need to fly to from virtually ANYWHERE in the world. and a relatively small population country too. There are a lot of logistics to shipping anything, nevermind expensive computer equipment, to Norway, or any other country that's fairly "remote".

Then there are going to be government checks, forms, etc, etc, etc, red tape and beurocracies that come whenever you import anything.

I'd seriously give them the benefit of the doubt, and 2-3 weeks is really not that bad considering.

Heck, Often I have 3-4 week waits for things from the states... And i'm from Canada!

would love to visit Norway one day.
 
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I ordered the 13-inch Macbook Pro with the Touch Bar on the day of the release and it was just marked as Preparing for Shipment.
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That is NOT what ifixit had to say!!!!!
EXACTLY the opposite actually.
It was praised for the easily replaceable SSD.
They merely said at this point, only Apple has drives that speed, so it may be a bit of a wait before you could purchase a suitable upgrade replacement drive.

I saw that. I was very impressed. I do really like the 15" model. But, the little things for me just, can't do it.

I was thinking it would have been nice if Apple somehow figured out a way to do some sort of physical function keys (maybe reprogrammable?) for touch typing, around where the ESC key was. Really the esc key thing is the real craw in my neck.

But having the possibility of upgrading my harddrives size/speed 5 years down the line if I wanted space, I could. such sort of upgradibility is always a big plus in my books.
 
Last year's "update" was a long time coming, but why did nobody buy that laptop...? Surely people were in line last year too.

I don't know the sales figures for the Haswell 15 " machines or the 13 " Broadwells. I will take your word that "nobody" bought those. It makes sense, at least for the 15" Haswells.

On the 15 " Apple had to use a 2013 Haswell chip rather than the more up to date Broadwell. With Skylake just around the corner I and a lot of other people felt that the combination of a two generation old Haswell chip in a $3,000 laptop and the fact that SkyLake might mean an entirely new design made buying a Haswell machine a risky value proposition.

So, I continued to screw my machine together, added an SSD, and waited until March of 2016 when Apple would surely release a new machine. Then I waited for WWDC in June. Our machines continued to get more outdated as Apple focused on releasing new colorful watch bands. Now, after an unusually long update cycle from a machine that wasn't really much of an update from its predecessor, we have people who've been waiting for a much longer time than usual. So, more demand because of more older machines joining the queue.

TLDR version, the last update used an old processor (in relative terms) and with SkyLake promising a new design, more people waited.
 
I saw that. I was very impressed. I do really like the 15" model. But, the little things for me just, can't do it.

I was thinking it would have been nice if Apple somehow figured out a way to do some sort of physical function keys (maybe reprogrammable?) for touch typing, around where the ESC key was. Really the esc key thing is the real craw in my neck.

But having the possibility of upgrading my harddrives size/speed 5 years down the line if I wanted space, I could. such sort of upgradibility is always a big plus in my books.

As long as they keep selling a $300 cheaper version sans Touchbar as the Air replacement, I think I'm gonna be happy!
It's neat. But, I'm ok w/ the 13" non-Touchbar version, with an upgrade to the SSD (to 512gb) & some AppleCare... it really doesn't seem that exorbitant. $1800, I believe- and I think it's realistic of me to assume that could be a 6 year machine.
The only "tweak" I'm planning is an Nvidia 1060 in an external Thunderbolt 3 enclosure, and honestly (in BootCamp), that should make it a capable gaming machine.
 
Do you really think apple will allow users to upgrade machine?

They always used to.

Up to 2012 almost all macs were elegantly upgradeable. But now they glue their batteries down, solder in the ram, and make proprietary and expensive ssd's. And for what exactly? To make an already thin laptop couple more millemeters thinner. At least thats their excuse.
 
As long as they keep selling a $300 cheaper version sans Touchbar as the Air replacement, I think I'm gonna be happy!
It's neat. But, I'm ok w/ the 13" non-Touchbar version, with an upgrade to the SSD (to 512gb) & some AppleCare... it really doesn't seem that exorbitant. $1800, I believe- and I think it's realistic of me to assume that could be a 6 year machine.
The only "tweak" I'm planning is an Nvidia 1060 in an external Thunderbolt 3 enclosure, and honestly (in BootCamp), that should make it a capable gaming machine.

Jesus dude, for $1699 you can get a 15 inch 2015 model on the apple refurb store! That's way way faster, has more ram, more flexibility with ports, and comes like new with a full warrantly. To spend $1800 on this overhyped macbook air replacement is downright daft

But its people like you who will buy this crap who will encourage apple to keep making this crap
 
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I ordered 5 maxed out (-larger ssd) 15" pros about an hour after the event over phone with online biz dept. 4 space grey and 1 silver, they went to preparing for shipment this morning. Interestingly my amex had a pending charge for the 4 grey last Thursday (now gone), and then a pending charge for the one silver on Tuesday (still there). No posted transactions yet though. Delivery has always shown Nov 17 - 25, shipping to Portland.
 
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Any order that is 2 TB 15 inch go to preparing for ship yet?

I ordered right after the announcement and it is still at "processing items " with the November 17-25 date.
 
Last year's "update" was a long time coming, but why did nobody buy that laptop...? Surely people were in line last year too.

Last year's update, wasn't an update at all. Very very minor tweaks at best, none of which had any practical impact.
 
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