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Jesus dude, for $1699 you can get a 15 inch 2015 model on the apple refurb store! That's way way faster, has more ram, more flexibility with ports, and comes like new with a full warrantly. To spend $1800 on this overhyped macbook air replacement is downright daft

But its people like you who will buy this crap who will encourage apple to keep making this crap

But, that 15 inch 2015 model can't drive a 5K display can it? Different folks, different strokes man...
 
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Jesus dude, for $1699 you can get a 15 inch 2015 model on the apple refurb store! That's way way faster, has more ram, more flexibility with ports, and comes like new with a full warrantly. To spend $1800 on this overhyped macbook air replacement is downright daft

But its people like you who will buy this crap who will encourage apple to keep making this crap

Well, if nobody here wishes to march towards the future, then at least get out of the way of those who do.
 
Have you been monitoring http://www.istocknow.com? The other day I was able to snipe an iPhone 7 Plus Jet Black 256GB SIM free at my local Apple store. The shipments are sporadic, so you have to monitor stock daily. I saw it pop up as in stock at my local store and then I immediately jumped in my car to go get it. The new phone is sweet, it's a shame I have to put it in a case because it scratches easily.[/QUOT

I will have to do that if my order is taking too long. Thanks for the tip
 
Mine still processing items. :(

Money has been taken from my account though. Ordered a 15" with all the trimmings save for the ssd where I stuck with the 500gb hd. Ordered literally a couple of minutes after the keynote ended.
 
Just placed my order. Because I went through Education pricing, I could not pick up. The latest projected date for me is December 23. I wish it was sooner, but oh well.:(
 
As long as they keep selling a $300 cheaper version sans Touchbar as the Air replacement, I think I'm gonna be happy!
It's neat. But, I'm ok w/ the 13" non-Touchbar version, with an upgrade to the SSD (to 512gb) & some AppleCare... it really doesn't seem that exorbitant. $1800, I believe- and I think it's realistic of me to assume that could be a 6 year machine.
The only "tweak" I'm planning is an Nvidia 1060 in an external Thunderbolt 3 enclosure, and honestly (in BootCamp), that should make it a capable gaming machine.

Hopefully it'll work for you. I had just recently upgraded my Desktop Hackintosh from a 290x to 1070, and OSx **** the bed. Endless boot loops, and couldn't get it working at all.
 
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It's rather odd that if Apple thinks the touch bar is such a good idea, why is there no standalone Apple keyboard with the touch bar? Many users plugin their MBP to external monitors and keyboards at home or work. If you get used to the touch bar, when you use external keyboards you'll have to adapt to the physical function keys again, and back and forth...
 
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? Please provide a link that shows this computer has a PCIe 3 fully capable bus or better yet a benchmark from your laptop.
Disk is now half full ... a little bit slower compared to an empty disk, 4kQ32 is not T1 but T4, all is measured just now
I am sure my new Mac with the 2TB SSD and the i7-6920HQ will be faster ...but Dell is with this aftermarked SSD not bad.
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It's rather odd that if Apple thinks the touch bar is such a good idea, why is there no standalone Apple keyboard with the touch bar? Many users plugin their MBP to external monitors and keyboards at home or work. If you get used to the touch bar, when you use external keyboards you'll have to adapt to the physical function keys again, and back and forth...

I imagine the external touch bar keyboard will launch with the new iMacs. However I think they should have been released now.
 
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Two (my sons) 13" i7 3.3ghz w/touchbar and 512GB SSD on separate orders (don't ask). Both nov 17-25, one prep (space gray) for shipping, the other still processing (silver)...
 
It's rather odd that if Apple thinks the touch bar is such a good idea, why is there no standalone Apple keyboard with the touch bar? Many users plugin their MBP to external monitors and keyboards at home or work. If you get used to the touch bar, when you use external keyboards you'll have to adapt to the physical function keys again, and back and forth...
The argument has been made that, at least with touch typists, your gaze is almost always on the (main) screen. Having a touch bar on an external keyboard forces you to significantly shift your focus between the two screens, a problem that doesn't really exist on the laptop.

Another question is whether Bluetooth would be fast and secure enough to let the computer communicate with a touch bar and fingerprint sensor on an external keyboard. Then there is the fact Rome wasn't built in a day. Apple didn't roll out retina screen to all devices at the same time and the world did not come to an end (iPhone 2010, iPad early 2012, MBP, mid/late 2012, 27" iMac 2014, 21.5" iMac 2015). Unless you think Apple should have held back the release of MBPs until they also had a solution for the iMac or people using external keyboards with their laptops?
 
23/11/2016 - 30/11/2016 for me.

Still annoyed. Purchased it almost immediately, had the 2-3 week time frame when I ordered. It took finance almost 24 hours to process payment (I got it interest free) which then pushed my order out to 3-4 weeks. :(

Side note, it's hilarious that every thread somehow turns into people complaining about the MacBook. Surely you can go do that in one of the many threads dedicated to it.
 
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