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However Android is fully multitasking where iOS is not. iOS has the sort of a multifinder for those who remember the good old days. At least iPadOS should be fully multitasking.
That is utter nonsense. Multifinder and more generally System 6, as well as System 7 and all versions of Classic MacOS provided what was called "collaborative multitasking": every application had to call back into the system regularly to let it give time to the other applications; an application could mostly hijack a Mac at that time.
iOS/iPadOS/macOS are fully multitasking OSes. The applications don’t need to give back control to the OS, it’s the OS that gives them processor time, and for most of the apps it’s totally transparent, each could act as if it was the only app running and never suspended.
I don’t know what Android is doing differently or even better, but iOS and iPadOS are multitasking OS, totally different from System 6 (and Multifinder).
 
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Siri doesn't need actual speech disabilities to malfunction and it's not what I'm hinting at. If English is your second language and you have an odd accent, it will degrade its recognition abilities severely. And no, this is not a case of "Garbage in, garbage out", this is a case of using a ten-year-old SOTA in production still. OpenAI's Whisper is perfectly capable of these things.


See above. The technology is there, it's just that Apple is refusing to implement it for reasons I can't grasp.
Sorry but if you have an accent then that still qualifies as garbage in to Siri...

Next you will be wanting Siri to know you picked the wrong word...

You are expecting too much and think Siri should be like a person and add context and interpret intent.
It's assistive in certain circumstances. And often frustrating in many others.

Bit like any other tech tool we use. You learn to work around the issues.

Apple refusing is usually a cost/benefit thing.
Perhaps there's an opportunity there for you to fill the hole and make a killing? :)
 
Why would I make things up to bash a gigantic mega corporation? I wasted money on it, it should work. Mainly when competition works.
perhaps you should have bought an alternative product... nothing says to Apple more "improve your offering" than voting with your wallet.
 
I was really hoping Siri would be usable with AI but it's almost as useless as before.

While driving:

"Siri"
"Siri"
"SIRI!"
"SIRI!!!"

*Screen glows with stupid colors*

"Play the latest Thrown album"
"Here's 60's jazz playlist"
"No! NO!"
*ignores*
"Siri!"
"SIRI!"

*glows*

"PLAY. THE. LATEST. THROWN ALBUM"
"Here's a throwback playlist"

"SIRI YOU IDIOT! OK PLAY *some other artist*"
"Here's X artist's blabla"
"Siri, turn the volume up by 30%"
"I turned the volume up"

Keeps the volume pretty much ducked to 2% for 20 seconds until you can actually hear the volume change
OK so details on what car and hardware you are using for this to happen...
 
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perhaps you should have bought an alternative product... nothing says to Apple more "improve your offering" than voting with your wallet.

Yes, I should've. You're correct. But I've been away from Apple for a decade and the M chips brought me back in. Only to find out the software releases have taken a nosedive.
 
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What about the inexplicable absence of Mail filtering from iPadOS and macOS? Let's hope that will be remedied soon. Meanwhile Image Playground is at best so-so and at worst, frankly not very good, so improvements there would be welcome too. Yes, I know the app is still in beta
 
What about the inexplicable absence of Mail filtering from iPadOS and macOS? Let's hope that will be remedied soon. Meanwhile Image Playground is at best so-so and at worst, frankly not very good, so improvements there would be welcome too. Yes, I know the app is still in beta
Well, you have plenty of alternatives anyway
 
Apple cannot reliably deliver notifications now, what good is AI to rate the importance if the notification never shows up?
THIS!!! apple mail huge fail had to switch to outlook to just get my notifications from my 5 accounts. Alarm is still a huge fail with low volume, and its not just me, daughter on IP13PM and IP15MAX both have this issue too. Alarm seriously? a super basic app they cant get to function properly. Had to download an app called ALARMR to actually make sure i wake up hearing it go off.
 
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THIS!!! apple mail huge fail had to switch to outlook to just get my notifications from my 5 accounts. Alarm is still a huge fail with low volume, and its not just me, daughter on IP13PM and IP15MAX both have this issue too. Alarm seriously? a super basic app they cant get to function properly. Had to download an app called ALARMR to actually make sure i wake up hearing it go off.
Again, if you have alternatives what’s the problem ?
 
Apple uses its own artificial neural networks and more restricted LLMs running on its devices for most of its Apple Intelligence operations. However, it can send requests to ChatGPT through Siri. It will ask permission before doing so.



Anthropic, an AI company started by ex-OpenAI employees.
Ah, I see, so it must take a fair bit of resources. I did have a muck around with the writing tools and on a lot of text it did take a while to rewrite.
I turned it all back off now, I have no need for it.
As for Claude, Ex-Open AI employees, don't fill me with confidence, not that I will use it anyway, Alexa is fine for what I use it for .
 
This NEVER happened to me or my relatives in more than 5 years. And not even using a different language speaking to Siri. So you are making things up or you do have serious pronunciation problems

Or try this on for size; you are either not using Siri or you are just spouting nonsense. I do not have a speech impediment and have tried to be very clear when using Siri - and it still fails. An experience shared by many.

But I am happy that you are happy.
 
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It's amazingly intelligent - I asked Siri using type to Siri, to silence the remainder of my alarms & it spoke at full volume to say it had done even though phone & ringer was silenced - not good for waking everyone else up.

So figured I'd try the 'new' Siri where you can ask it for instructions of how to use the iPhone. I eventually succeeded on my 3rd attempt, turns out I was asking it wrong, but this was the 1st two responses;

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Again, if you have alternatives what’s the problem ?

Deflecting criticism of Apple's software quality with "just download a different app" is missing the point.

If you have any interest in Apple besides their stock price, you might have noticed less care put into what used to be the company's pride and joy - their software.

Dark patterns in every app with a store, bugs unfixed for years, while so many resources are put into adding "AI" features that are not useful, don't work right, and no one asked for - just to send a signal to Wallstreet that "we are also in this trending market!"
 
Throw around the words Intelligence and Ai what a pot of soup we have today.
Definitions of their respective meanings mean nothing for $$$$.
Dictionaries of the past mean nothing today.
 
Ah, I see, so it must take a fair bit of resources.

Yes, a decent LLM like Llama 3.3 70B (70 billion parameters) quantized to 4-bit parameters requires 36GB.

I did have a muck around with the writing tools and on a lot of text it did take a while to rewrite.

The best use I get from it is to check grammar. Rewrite is not great yet. You have to be careful with it as it can change the meaning of what you wrote. I'm sure it will get better. But for the time being, it is best to treat it as Beta and not rely on it.

As for Claude, Ex-Open AI employees, don't fill me with confidence, not that I will use it anyway, Alexa is fine for what I use it for .

Anthropic says its mission is to develop AI with positive social benefits and to build reliable, interpretable, and steerable AI systems. I've no idea if they'll reach their goal. I haven't played with Claude much since it was initially unveiled. Right now, I'd say ChatGPT or Gemini are your best bets for usable LLMs. Microsoft's stuff might be good too, but I've no experience with that.
 
Yes, I should've. You're correct. But I've been away from Apple for a decade and the M chips brought me back in. Only to find out the software releases have taken a nosedive.
cmon, people have whinged about software for more than a decade. "If Steve was still alive" went on for years for every complaint about quality ...
 
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Deflecting criticism of Apple's software quality with "just download a different app" is missing the point.

If you have any interest in Apple besides their stock price, you might have noticed less care put into what used to be the company's pride and joy - their software.

Dark patterns in every app with a store, bugs unfixed for years, while so many resources are put into adding "AI" features that are not useful, don't work right, and no one asked for - just to send a signal to Wallstreet that "we are also in this trending market!"
Actually downloading a different app you are voting with your wallet (even if the app is free of charge): you are sending them a message their app isn’t up to the task.
 
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cmon, people have whinged about software for more than a decade. "If Steve was still alive" went on for years for every complaint about quality ...
Absolutely agree.
Steve was the one with the “you’re holding it wrong” … and many other mistakes in the past. Apple has never been perfect. But I still consider it way better than others.
 
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Yes, a decent LLM like Llama 3.3 70B (70 billion parameters) quantized to 4-bit parameters requires 36GB.



The best use I get from it is to check grammar. Rewrite is not great yet. You have to be careful with it as it can change the meaning of what you wrote. I'm sure it will get better. But for the time being, it is best to treat it as Beta and not rely on it.



Anthropic says its mission is to develop AI with positive social benefits and to build reliable, interpretable, and steerable AI systems. I've no idea if they'll reach their goal. I haven't played with Claude much since it was initially unveiled. Right now, I'd say ChatGPT or Gemini are your best bets for usable LLMs. Microsoft's stuff might be good too, but I've no experience with that.
I only had a muck around with it, just to be nosey, it is not something I will use again I doubt, as i said I have dsiable AI on my Mac now.

Disabled Gemini on my phone as well, got no use for it. I don't know when Amazon will update Alexa, people are saying that it will be a new AI, well Alexa is already AI to a certain degree.
 
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I only had a muck around with it, just to be nosey, it is not something I will use again I doubt, as i said I have dsiable AI on my Mac now.

Disabled Gemini on my phone as well, got no use for it. I don't know when Amazon will update Alexa, people are saying that it will be a new AI, well Alexa is already AI to a certain degree.
I got a new phone for Christmas and saw a lot of pushes to switch to Gemini, but didn't switch because they said there are things it can't do yet that the older Assistant could, like a voice command to call someone. Less functionality and more errors? No thanks!

Alexa has been fun to control lights and get weather updates, but the fact it's been reliant on third party skills for most things has seemed like a design error from the start. The good routines (like having Alexa play ocean sounds to help you go to sleep) require a developer to pay for a server and beg for subscriptions, and since it's a bunch of third party developers, each routine has different syntax. It's a big mess. Oh, and I notice each generation of hardware seems to have gotten worse at voice recognition over time, as they target new gear and still don't process much locally.

I'll give Siri another try, but right now it only lives on my iPad 9, which is too old to use the AI updates anyway.
 
Again, if you have alternatives what’s the problem ?
respectfully, by this logic I am not allowed to be upset with a product I like because it has flaws, i should just accept them and not worry i paid 1100 dollars EXPECTING a simple app to work? its like my fav place to eat, sure there are many others, but i like it at a certain place and since they are in business to keep me happy, shoudl i not be a bit upset if they get something wrong?
 
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respectfully, by this logic I am not allowed to be upset with a product I like because it has flaws, i should just accept them and not worry i paid 1100 dollars EXPECTING a simple app to work? its like my fav place to eat, sure there are many others, but i like it at a certain place and since they are in business to keep me happy, shoudl i not be a bit upset if they get something wrong?
Sure, you can be upset. I was too, regarding what Tim Cook did to Mac (they basically are disposable devices now). But if you read this forum , you could easily find serial complainers: people living here with the only agendo to complain about Apple on every single choice (even the choices they haven’t made yet, based on rumors and renders).
You don’t like Apple at all ? It is fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just move on and buy something else (aka vote with your wallet).
 
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