Flip Flopping between macOS and Windows

[Technerd108]

I would never get rid of it. just repurpose it, but yeah it holds a lot of sentimental value

I personally love minimalist Scandinavian design.

If you got the standing desk I bet you would miss the one you have now.

I get the idea behind a standing desk but it also seems odd to me. Kind of like those big balls people tried to use at their desk that were supposed to help you strengthen your core and all you did was fall off the thing.

Human nature is so funny. I used to work a few jobs where I stood all day and all I wanted to do was sit. When I had a desk job I felt to sedentary. You can't win no matter what you do.

Hope you figure out what is best for you and I would take your desk in a heartbeat. Lol. But I know you wouldn't part with it and you shouldn't.

 

[millerj123]

The desk in my setup above is actually a sit stand desk. I don't use it in stand position anymore, don't think it would even work in the new space with the eves.

The trick to sit stand desk is to alternate often between the 2 modes. I wouldn't recommend trying to stand all day.

I have multiple sit-stand setups between work and home. The biggest issue is that the distance between keyboard and monitor changes between when you sit and when you stand. In general, I have tall chairs so I can sit if needed, but mostly use them to change my stance while standing. I've toyed with the idea of the adjustable ones that shift when you go from sit to stand, but most of them start at about $200.

 

[LiE_]

When I used my desk in sit stand I had a stool which was very useful. Ikea do some that are designed for sit stand desks like this one.

This is the same desk I use today just now it's permanently in sit position.

 

[maflynn]

I've been using my MBP a bit more then usual and have come to some insights for my usage, and preferences. First and foremost, these are my preferences, YMMV. What l like or don't like is just that personal.

Anyways after spending more time on the MBP, i've come away with some thoughts.

• Mouse; acceleration scrolling and usage. I feel conflicted in putting this here, but using the mouse scroll wheel in macOS is not as smooth, and the UX is inferior. I can use the scroll wheel on my PC and it gives me consistent results, not so with my MBP. Sometimes it doesn't scroll when I move scroll wheel a small amount, sometimes it goes a lot further. It seems inconsistent. I do lose the cursor a lot more as well due to acceleration.
• Trackpad, I think this is more about what are you used too. I find the idea of clickable trackpads to be better. Right clicking is more of a gesture and then anything and it just messes me up, especially if I let a finger unknowingly touch the track pad.
• Full screen, I really hate how full screen works on the mac.
• External display, the M1 mac does not handle sub 4k displays very well. There's utilities to help account for this, but the mantra it just works falls flat.
• Battery life - top notch, and the main reason why I got it.
• Games - I don't play many games but I do enjoy some. Cities Skylines plays on the Mac, but it doesn't seem to play as efficiently and easily (or as stable). Its crashes occasionally on the Mac not really on the PC. Performance with the game is inferior on the mac as well. Volume of games on the PC of course is a major factor.
• Software. Font rendering on some applications appear to be easier on my eyes, I've said this before but excel looks and feels better on my PC then Mac.

I know this sounds like a laundry list of complaints and that I'm ragging on the Mac but I've been trying to use the Mac a lot more for a variety of reasons. I keep getting frustrated, the PC for my needs and wants is a better fit.

So for flip flopping, I'm mostly back using the PC and my Mac will be more of a backup laptop. I still think the M1 MBP is a fantastic machine, Apple hit it out of the park with the design, usage, performance, but for my needs it is lacking

 

[c0ppo]

I've been using my MBP a bit more then usual and have come to some insights for my usage, and preferences. First and foremost, these are my preferences, YMMV. What l like or don't like is just that personal.

Anyways after spending more time on the MBP, i've come away with some thoughts.

• Mouse; acceleration scrolling and usage. I feel conflicted in putting this here, but using the mouse scroll wheel in macOS is not as smooth, and the UX is inferior. I can use the scroll wheel on my PC and it gives me consistent results, not so with my MBP. Sometimes it doesn't scroll when I move scroll wheel a small amount, sometimes it goes a lot further. It seems inconsistent. I do lose the cursor a lot more as well due to acceleration.
• Trackpad, I think this is more about what are you used too. I find the idea of clickable trackpads to be better. Right clicking is more of a gesture and then anything and it just messes me up, especially if I let a finger unknowingly touch the track pad.
• Full screen, I really hate how full screen works on the mac.
• External display, the M1 mac does not handle sub 4k displays very well. There's utilities to help account for this, but the mantra it just works falls flat.
• Battery life - top notch, and the main reason why I got it.
• Games - I don't play many games but I do enjoy some. Cities Skylines plays on the Mac, but it doesn't seem to play as efficiently and easily (or as stable). Its crashes occasionally on the Mac not really on the PC. Performance with the game is inferior on the mac as well. Volume of games on the PC of course is a major factor.
• Software. Font rendering on some applications appear to be easier on my eyes, I've said this before but excel looks and feels better on my PC then Mac.

I know this sounds like a laundry list of complaints and that I'm ragging on the Mac but I've been trying to use the Mac a lot more for a variety of reasons. I keep getting frustrated, the PC for my needs and wants is a better fit.

So for flip flopping, I'm mostly back using the PC and my Mac will be more of a backup laptop. I still think the M1 MBP is a fantastic machine, Apple hit it out of the park with the design, usage, performance, but for my needs it is lacking

I agree with everything on this list, except the trackpad stuff. I love the way the trackpad on MBP works. Way better than any other device. But as you said, it's a personal preference.

 

[maflynn]

I love the way the trackpad on MBP works

Yeah, the Mac's trackpad is the gold standard, at least that's what I keep hearing. I think my issue is that I prefer pressing down on the right hand corner for the right click. I need to use gestures to get the right click and I'm accidently invoking the right click when I don't mean too. Plus I like clickable or moveable trackpads, that's not the mac - as you say its personal preference and thousands, if not millions love the trackpad. Just not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[LeeW]

External display, the M1 mac does not handle sub 4k displays very well.

This was my biggest gripe although I now have a 4k screen. Prior to that I really didn't like using my Mac with an external screen. On my PC it is great on anything.

Games - I don't play many games but I do enjoy some. Cities Skylines plays on the Mac, but it doesn't seem to play as efficiently and easily (or as stable). Its crashes occasionally on the Mac not really on the PC.

Indeed. Although I give them a pass on this. The Mx was absolutely a game changer but not in the way many people claimed. It was a massive improvement on previous intel devices, but they still have significant limitations vs PC. I still prefer macOS over Windows generally though so when playing games I just stream from my PC to the Mac on Steam and get the best of both worlds for me.

Agree with all the other points.

 

[LiE_]

I've been using my MBP a bit more then usual and have come to some insights for my usage, and preferences. First and foremost, these are my preferences, YMMV. What l like or don't like is just that personal.

Anyways after spending more time on the MBP, i've come away with some thoughts.

• Mouse; acceleration scrolling and usage. I feel conflicted in putting this here, but using the mouse scroll wheel in macOS is not as smooth, and the UX is inferior. I can use the scroll wheel on my PC and it gives me consistent results, not so with my MBP. Sometimes it doesn't scroll when I move scroll wheel a small amount, sometimes it goes a lot further. It seems inconsistent. I do lose the cursor a lot more as well due to acceleration.
• Trackpad, I think this is more about what are you used too. I find the idea of clickable trackpads to be better. Right clicking is more of a gesture and then anything and it just messes me up, especially if I let a finger unknowingly touch the track pad.
• Full screen, I really hate how full screen works on the mac.
• External display, the M1 mac does not handle sub 4k displays very well. There's utilities to help account for this, but the mantra it just works falls flat.
• Battery life - top notch, and the main reason why I got it.
• Games - I don't play many games but I do enjoy some. Cities Skylines plays on the Mac, but it doesn't seem to play as efficiently and easily (or as stable). Its crashes occasionally on the Mac not really on the PC. Performance with the game is inferior on the mac as well. Volume of games on the PC of course is a major factor.
• Software. Font rendering on some applications appear to be easier on my eyes, I've said this before but excel looks and feels better on my PC then Mac.

I know this sounds like a laundry list of complaints and that I'm ragging on the Mac but I've been trying to use the Mac a lot more for a variety of reasons. I keep getting frustrated, the PC for my needs and wants is a better fit.

So for flip flopping, I'm mostly back using the PC and my Mac will be more of a backup laptop. I still think the M1 MBP is a fantastic machine, Apple hit it out of the park with the design, usage, performance, but for my needs it is lacking

Good list and I agree with those mostly. One thing I found when switching between the 2 is that I felt more connected and precise in Windows. Be that scrolling, pointing the mouse or moving around the UI.

 

[LiE_]

I changed my setup a little. I moved from the Fractal Design Torrent Compact to the NZXT H5 Flow. The main reasons were the RGB wasn't working for me, the 180mm fans had an audible droning at certain RPMs and cooling wasn't quite what I needed. So I have the H5 Flow with it's unique bottom angled fan for the GPU and using all Noctua a12x25 Chromax, the same fans I have on my CPU cooler. They are really good and have a pleasing sound.

 

[maflynn]

I changed my setup a little. I moved from the Fractal Design Torrent Compact to the NZXT H5 Flow

I really like the NZXT H5 Flow, though I don't have it in me to swap cases. I'm happy with how everything works for me and my temps are decent. I don't push the envelope that much on my machine.

 

[LeeW]

Since I built my last PC with the Phanteks Evolv Shift Air 2 case I don't think I could ever go back to a standard case. I would like to build another for no reason. Was looking at the NZXT H1 V2. But not sure I like it.

 

[MBAir2010]

wow, I suffered a horrible experience with windows and dell this September
as of December 2? my Microsoft account will be gone!
what champagne should I get for this occasion?

sorry if I offended or irked anyone here....

 

[MBAir2010]

• Mouse; acceleration scrolling and usage. I feel conflicted in putting this here, but using the mouse scroll wheel in macOS is not as smooth, and the UX is inferior. I can use the scroll wheel on my PC and it gives me consistent results, not so with my MBP. Sometimes it doesn't scroll when I move scroll wheel a small amount, sometimes it goes a lot further. It seems inconsistent. I do lose the cursor a lot more as well due to acceleration.

Yes, I have the MacBook Air 2021 and the trackpad is not as stable as say a Dell XPS
I would say 99% of the time I get perfect results, but that 1% I'm dragging an app on the screen.
This happened twice since Venture public release.
whereas Monterey did not do this
everything else is more than I expected!

what MBpro are we using?
me know a 2012 13" with a perfect track pad!

 

[maflynn]

what MBpro are we using?
me know a 2012 13" with a perfect track pad!

I know have 2021 14” MBP. It’s a great laptop though I absolutely loved my 2012 MBP. That is by far the best laptop imo

 

[MBAir2010]

I know have 2021 14” MBP. It’s a great laptop though I absolutely loved my 2012 MBP. That is by far the best laptop imo

My 2012 MBP crashed in October
a quick $9 ribbon for the ssd hard drive took care of the problem.

what OS are we using?
Mine: Mojave and Catalina.
I might erase one next week

These M1, M2 laptops are incredible!

thanks for replying!

 

[maflynn]

what OS are we using?

For the 2012, I forget, I fired it up last year some time, but that was the last time. Maybe I'll dust off that bad boy and see how its faring.

My M1 MBP is on Ventura and that seems ok. It does everything I ask of it

 

[BigMcGuire]

My 2012 MBP crashed in October
a quick $9 ribbon for the ssd hard drive took care of the problem.

what OS are we using?
Mine: Mojave and Catalina.
I might erase one next week

These M1, M2 laptops are incredible!

thanks for replying!

One reason why my M1 Max is the best laptop I've ever used is because I can run Windows 11 on it and do everything that I did on a Windows PC (Visual Studio 2022, massive C# WPF application, as fast as native) while running 30-40GB of other applications on Mac OS.

I need to use Windows 11 for my job and for other applications - I'm constantly floored how I can do like native work on my laptop with absolutely no fan noise. My i7 13' MBP would scream fans just trying to log into windows. I can do old games on Parallels and they act as if they're running on a windows box.

But this laptop has allowed me to have 1 device instead of having a Windows device and a Mac device. I'm in computing heaven this year and for the foreseeable future.

I expect to get 5-7 years out of this thing depending on what comes to market in the near future.

 

[MBAir2010]

I expect to get 5-7 years out of this thing depending on what comes to market in the near future.

Im used my MacBook Air 2010 for 4 already hours today.
because I am calibrating a new battery and adding files to a flash install of elCapitan OSx

Hopefully our MacBook M1 will last longer than that!

thanks for your nice reply and good luck with Windows11, which has it's advantages as well.

 

[InuNacho]

Just thought I'd throw in my switch to Windows. A lot of it has to do with compatibility which post-Mojave is a big no-no. I can't stay on a depreciated OS forever.

My art studio computer is a Dell 3630, it cost $300 USD used. It came with i7-8700, 32GB of Ram and a NVMe 500GB SSD.

Since then I've added a Firewire card for archiving DV, BlackMagic Intensity card, a used GTX 1650 SUPER, and have miles of cables for all my scanners and printers. There are also 4 more drives inside of it filling each SATA port.
I need a Mac Pro style computer for my work but Apple doesn't make one so its off to Windows.
For scientific purposes I turned all my USB devices on.

Seeing as the 16GB Mini used costs so much more than my Dell and requires even more in hubs and PCIe adapters to get things to work, I'm glad I jumped ship.

Going to compatibility, dropping 32-bit and depreciation/breaking of certain parts of the OS is a big deal to me. I still HAVE to reference Lightroom 6 because I don't want to be tied into an infinite subscription plan with Adobe. There are 125k images are in my LR6 library.
Then there is the games I've bought over the years. I still like to spend downtime gunning down zombies in Left 4 Dead 2 or play Bioshock. These will never be Universal.

From my perspective Apple is a sports car company now. Yea sure the ARM stuff is super fast and efficient but when you need the TRUCK to just work, there isn't an option. I adore the clean Apple marketing pictures of the Mini or Studio and giggle a little when you have to add a thousand dongles to it to just get something basic done.

 

[LiE_]

Small upgrade... just a 4090

 

[maflynn]

just a 4090

Yowza

Good luck, Also make sure the power connectors are firmly plugged in and the bend is not too acute. You may want to think about getting a 90 degree connector so that it minimizes the risk - just my recommendation, take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No knock on anyone upgrading, but here I am chugging away with a 2060

 

[MBAir2010]

im finished with windows and anything Microsoft forever!

Hopefully they delete my outlook account next week as promised back in early October.
The reason is
not that Microsoft lies and tricks their users to purchase items from fraudulent places
or the 4 extra steps to cut and paste a simple photo online in Win11,
is that
Everything  is doing in 2022 is what we visioned in the 1980 were everything works perfectly!
well more me.

and that Blue HomePod mini speaker is just incredible!
I might get him a friend soon
should I get the same color to a white one?

 

[LiE_]

Yowza

Good luck, Also make sure the power connectors are firmly plugged in and the bend is not too acute. You may want to think about getting a 90 degree connector so that it minimizes the risk - just my recommendation, take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No knock on anyone upgrading, but here I am chugging away with a 2060

I'm not a fan of the adaptor anyway so I've already got one of these on order.

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284

I wanted the braided version but that doesn't come in stock often.

I'm also on the waiting list for one of these - https://store.cablemod.com/12vhpwr-angled-adapter/

 

[maflynn]

im finished with windows and anything Microsoft forever!

I was planning on not renewing my office subscription in January, and then just a week ago, I got dinged for the sub. I could have sworn it was a january renewal. I'll log in later today and try to untangle that mess. I use Excel often, but I think I can get away with a single perpetual license (if the price is right).

 

[LiE_]

Small update on my PC. Due do a few QC issues I decided to return the 4090. I took the opportunity to go for a 4080 as it turns out the 4090 was a bit overkill for the games I play. Went with the Palit 4080 GameRock OmniBlack (aka no RGB). Fits well with my black stealth build.

I also bought a new camera (part of the cost difference between the 4090 and 4080 helped fund it)