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I was SO pleased when apple came out with aperture and actually asked photographers what we wanted. It was great and I liked it SO much more than adobe stuff. Then bang. Gone.
For many years, I really enjoyed photography as a hobby. Aperture was a godsend, it had everything I wanted and then some. Then for some odd reason Apple just ignored it and let it whither on the vine. It seemed once Lightroom came out, Apple gave up, its almost like they were scared of competing against Adobe.
 
For many years, I really enjoyed photography as a hobby. Aperture was a godsend, it had everything I wanted and then some. Then for some odd reason Apple just ignored it and let it whither on the vine. It seemed once Lightroom came out, Apple gave up, its almost like they were scared of competing against Adobe.
That was honestly when my view towards Apple started to change. I realized that while they didn’t drop projects with the frequency of Google, they do drop them. And when they do it, it is just as abrupt. It’s not always good to be locked into one ecosystem. And Apple definitely tries to lock their users into the “experience”.
 
For many years, I really enjoyed photography as a hobby. Aperture was a godsend, it had everything I wanted and then some. Then for some odd reason Apple just ignored it and let it whither on the vine. It seemed once Lightroom came out, Apple gave up, its almost like they were scared of competing against Adobe.
I was using it as a hobbyist then too. Now, I am transferring to using my cameras and pcs to provide income, and I still do not use adobe. I refuse to pay insane monthly payments for outdated software. I use luminar, affinity, resolve, videoproc vlogger and photor as my creating software platforms.
 
That was honestly when my view towards Apple started to change.
I hung on longer, I suppose if there was any time where I put my finger on where my views towards apple changed it was 2016, when they introduced the new MBP, with the touchbar, with only USB-C ports and the butterfly keyboard. Without needing to go into every detail why that laptop was a horrible product, I will say their nonchalant and cavalier was such that I realized it wasn't the same Apple that I came be a fan of. I needed laptop that better fit my needs and it was becoming clear the MBP was not it


I was using it as a hobbyist then too. Now, I am transferring to using my cameras and pcs to provide income
I've moved away from photography, I'm not sure why. I think fatherhood was a major factor, where I needed to spend more time with my kids then honing my craft. As for adobe, I bought LR and then subscribed, but realized quickly, it wasn't worth the $$ especially given the fact I was just a hobbyist.
 
I hung on longer, I suppose if there was any time where I put my finger on where my views towards apple changed it was 2016, when they introduced the new MBP, with the touchbar, with only USB-C ports and the butterfly keyboard. Without needing to go into every detail why that laptop was a horrible product, I will say their nonchalant and cavalier was such that I realized it wasn't the same Apple that I came be a fan of. I needed laptop that better fit my needs and it was becoming clear the MBP was not it



I've moved away from photography, I'm not sure why. I think fatherhood was a major factor, where I needed to spend more time with my kids then honing my craft. As for adobe, I bought LR and then subscribed, but realized quickly, it wasn't worth the $$ especially given the fact I was just a hobbyist.
My wife went from breeding and raising horses to becoming a professional photographer. There was a time I would have made her switch from being a lifelong Windows user to a Mac user.

Instead I switched me from Mac eventually so that all I have to troubleshoot is Windows in my house. Lightroom Classic works fine on M1 and Windows I am sure, but she only had to learn how to use it in Windows. :)
 
After using Windows all my life, I tried to switch to macOS at the end of last year.
Somehow, though, I wasn't ready to switch at that point and tried to use macOS just like Windows. Without success.
One month later I gave my MacBook to a work colleague and started using my Thinkpad T14 again.

Only then did I realize what personally annoys me about the current Windows versions:

Although we are in an Enterprise - environment, everywhere pop up annoying nag-screens:

- lets finish setting up your device (it's completely set up)
- hey, mind using OneDrive? (been using it for years)
- wanting to add a colleague to a teams meeting -> pop-up: have you seen the new emojis?
- wanted to check mails via outlook.office.com -> pop-up: please try to use microsoft to-do

and so on and so forth.

I could live with this if it only appeared in home editions, but it's just not appropriate in enterprise environments.
Furthermore, it's just stupidly implemented, as I'm shown ads for features and programs I already use.
 
Agreed, I'm not happy with that sort of stuff and I swear Windows is getting worse.
All thanks to Nadella. The beancounter in chief. All he is worried about is cloud, nothing else. Well...Cloud and business facebook. Consumers are nothing to them now. Which is a shame. When windows 10 mobile was coming online, MS was in a position to really push consumer products, but SN decided to focus 100 percent of everything in microsoft to the cloud and the purchase of business facebook. After that, the consumer teams for mobile, vr/ar, etc were just left to wander around Redmond like something from the walking dead.

I do enjoy windows as a whole, but cannot help but think...what could have been with a true visionary at the helm and not a bean counter/one trick pony.
 
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You can turn all that crap off in settings. I never get harassed about Microsoft products.
You can turn all the crap off for good by never touching a non-Apple product with a stick from afar. Get your hardware, software and services from one source, which you already paid for at the beginning. Every single PC company needs to earn a living. Only because you built your own high-end PC doesn't mean you already paid Microsoft. So they need to bother you with copyright protection and upsell you to some Ultimate Enterprise edition of Windows. And they need to make sure you know, why getting the Home Basic edition would've been a grave mistake. And this nonsense repeats itself with every single component. Of course your motherboard comes in fancy colors and blinking lights and has an epic long name, which highlights all the features you paid for. But beware hidden deep within the installer of a free browser plugin like Adobe Flash is a preselected checkbox, which will install a browser toolbar you didn't ask for and can't get rid of. Every time there was a Flash update I needed to remember to uncheck that damn thing. Using Windows was literally like living in hell and I'm speaking about the good old Windows 7 days. I don't get how people can flip-flop between Mac and PC and not realize the later is absolute ****. Once you know the Mac, you want nothing else ever again.
 
You can turn all the crap off for good by never touching a non-Apple product with a stick from afar. Get your hardware, software and services from one source, which you already paid for at the beginning. Every single PC company needs to earn a living. Only because you built your own high-end PC doesn't mean you already paid Microsoft. So they need to bother you with copyright protection and upsell you to some Ultimate Enterprise edition of Windows. And they need to make sure you know, why getting the Home Basic edition would've been a grave mistake. And this nonsense repeats itself with every single component. Of course your motherboard comes in fancy colors and blinking lights and has an epic long name, which highlights all the features you paid for. But beware hidden deep within the installer of a free browser plugin like Adobe Flash is a preselected checkbox, which will install a browser toolbar you didn't ask for and can't get rid of. Every time there was a Flash update I needed to remember to uncheck that damn thing. Using Windows was literally like living in hell and I'm speaking about the good old Windows 7 days. I don't get how people can flip-flop between Mac and PC and not realize the later is absolute ****. Once you know the Mac, you want nothing else ever again.
Apple is going with ads now too, in the app store and Apple News so far...
 
That doesn't mean what you said is true -- that you wont see ads using Apple devices. You can choose not to see them, just like you can chose not to see them in Windows.
He’s in the “If I don’t think it happens its not true” camp. FYI to others, I am typing this on my 10th gen iPad. I am not anti Apple. I am anti misinformation about them by fan@*&!
 
That doesn't mean what you said is true -- that you wont see ads using Apple devices. You can choose not to see them, just like you can chose not to see them in Windows.
I can't choose to not see all the variants and upsells everyone wants to push on me. People complain about Apple's RAM and SSD prices, but literally everything on the PC exists in dozens of variants. Just to pick the right GPU is a giant research project for itself.
 
I can't choose to not see all the variants and upsells everyone wants to push on me. People complain about Apple's RAM and SSD prices, but literally everything on the PC exists in dozens of variants. Just to pick the right GPU is a giant research project for itself.
You are commenting on different things whenever someone responds to you. We are not talking about configurations, we are talking about ads in OS, which both apple and Microsoft does. You are the one going off on wacky tangents trying to prove apple is superior. Guess what, it’s not.
 
I can't choose to not see all the variants and upsells everyone wants to push on me. People complain about Apple's RAM and SSD prices, but literally everything on the PC exists in dozens of variants. Just to pick the right GPU is a giant research project for itself.
If this is true for you, why are you here in this thread? Everyone else here is able to research both PCs and Macs just fine. Picking the right GPU is incredibly trivial.

First you pick your need for what you are going to do, then you see your budget, and then you pick your GPU.

Case in point. I wanted a midrange 2021-22 GPU in a laptop (my budget was whatever I sold my 512/16 M1 MBA for) and I found an open box discount on an Asus Zephyrus G14 3060 Ryzen 16/512 for $700. It’s been flawless for months and only cost me $700. Try doing that with a mac budget and get something that can run all AAA titles at well over 60 FPS. I’ll wait.

That said, the rest of us here like Mac also. We just don’t have ridiculous takes on one over the other.

Edited to add: I just checked - BB has an open box discount on a 14” 16/512 M2 MBP (with the latest changes for gaming, it can probably come close to over 60 fps in most AAA games) and it is $1655. Over twice as much.
 
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You are commenting on different things whenever someone responds to you. We are not talking about configurations, we are talking about ads in OS, which both apple and Microsoft does. You are the one going off on wacky tangents trying to prove apple is superior. Guess what, it’s not.
First of all, yes it is superior and that even goes without saying. You don't have a 90% market share on laptops above $1000+ if your product isn't far superior. And that was even the case when all used the same Intel chips, with same heat problems and poor battery life.

Only because you want to talk about ads, I don't have to. I want to talk about all the ways in which Windows is garbage, which by far isn't only ads. Yes, a while ago Apple also tried to show more ads in the App Store and it backfired spectacularly. Because now everyone could see, how many trashy money grab apps are on the iOS App Store and that their app curation process, which is supposed to filter them all out, doesn't work. Also search on the App Store doesn't work. Even if you type the exact name of the app you are looking for, a copycat version often appears as the top search result. Fortunately on the Mac you don't need to go through the App Store, you can load the disk image right from the developer website or GitHub. With some luck EU app sideloading will enable a similar workaround on iOS.
 
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Case in point. I wanted a midrange 2021-22 GPU in a laptop (my budget was whatever I sold my 512/16 M1 MBA for) and I found an open box discount on an Asus Zephyrus G14 3060 Ryzen 16/512 for $700. It’s been flawless for months and only cost me $700. Try doing that with a mac budget and get something that can run all AAA titles at well over 60 FPS. I’ll wait.
The answer is PS5 $449.
 
Yeah, it's called M2. 😆

Well it's really "Only M2". People have lots of different needs. I can pick an GTXxxxx today and replace only that specific component with a RTXxxxx tomorrow as my needs change without having to buy an entirely new device. I know you know that and are just stirring the pot.
 
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For me it is the difference between Complex Instruction Set Computing (CISC), and Reduced Instruction Set Computing (RISC) CPU's. The Operating system is just part of the seasoning. Intel screwed the Pooch when they laughed Steve Jobs out building when he asked for a RISC chip for the iPhone. The advantage a CISC CPU went out the door when RISC CPU's got so fast. With Apple being a vertically integrated company the advantage of an entire computer system running together in an built as a unit way cannot be ignored. Apple Silicon is a integral part of that. You don't really appreciate this until you assemble your own computers. Choosing from 10 or more different CPUs, and equal number of motherboards, and the RAM. it used to be easy but now it isn't. The biggest problem I had with my last few assemble PC's was with the RAM. It was the timing that was such a issue. Even picked from a list of certified brands and models didn't always work. There are computer assembling matchup sites but they don't always work. It finally got to the point that I was tired of messing with it. I purchased my Mac Studio M1 Max 32gig and I am not looking back. As I have said I still need a PC but I am looking a AMD Ryzen based mini PC's for that side. I am not assembling them anymore.
 
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