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Maybe, but it's not as if doing a tvOS version is a lot of work, and it's just plain silly not to enable all possible ways to consume your product.

No, it's not the work, heck..they have apps all over the place....it's coming to terms with Apple.
 
No, it's not the work, heck..they have apps all over the place....it's coming to terms with Apple.
That only matters if they want to sell through the app. The iOS app is view only no sales so there's nothing to negotiate. The tvOS app could be the same.
 
That only matters if they want to sell through the app. The iOS app is view only no sales so there's nothing to negotiate. The tvOS app could be the same.

Mobile is viewed differently. Vudu, Amazon and others wish to sell you movies just like itunes. They are left at a huge disadvantage if customers can't purchase in app. If Apple want's to take all the profit, just like they sold the movie it leaves little reason to proceed.
 
Mobile is viewed differently. Vudu, Amazon and others wish to sell you movies just like itunes. They are left at a huge disadvantage if customers can't purchase in app. If Apple want's to take all the profit, just like they sold the movie it leaves little reason to proceed.

Well, Apple doesn't take "all the profit", there's a service fee, 30% (or less, and I'd imagine a business entity like Walmart can strike some cost effective deals ...) but like @randian said above, if Vudu doesn't sell through the AppleTV app, there's no profit cut, and for Vudu, they potentially sell a not insignificant amount of content to the AppleTV owner base.

i.e., Cost of Development vs. X number of additional content consumers

Amazon probably isn't a good comparison because not only do they sell content, they broker content between other providers (like HBO), and the _big_ difference: they sell competing hardware (that Vudu does not).
 
Well, Apple doesn't take "all the profit", there's a service fee, 30% (or less, and I'd imagine a business entity like Walmart can strike some cost effective deals ...) but like @randian said above, if Vudu doesn't sell through the AppleTV app, there's no profit cut, and for Vudu, they potentially sell a not insignificant amount of content to the AppleTV owner base.

i.e., Cost of Development vs. X number of additional content consumers

Amazon probably isn't a good comparison because not only do they sell content, they broker content between other providers (like HBO), and the _big_ difference: they sell competing hardware (that Vudu does not).


I doubt there is much profit to begin with, for digital sales. They have (Vudu) apps all over the place....no reason not to be on apple tv if all else is equal. Actually Vudu does have their own device, Vudu Spark....they just don't push it. In fact there is little reason to buy it when Roku has literally all of them, except itunes of course.
 
Maybe, but it's not as if doing a tvOS version is a lot of work, and it's just plain silly not to enable all possible ways to consume your product.

Flixster has also had an iOS app for a long time, but no ATV app yet. They even said they were working on the ATV app 11 months ago. There's no way porting from iOS to TVOS takes that long.

Something is going on.
 
Flixster has also had an iOS app for a long time, but no ATV app yet. They even said they were working on the ATV app 11 months ago. There's no way porting from iOS to TVOS takes that long.

Something is going on.

Flixster pulled UV streaming support from their Amazon Fire app several months back, that was how we were accessing our UV (Vudu) movies on an upstairs TV. It's _chaos_ :D
 
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Flixster pulled UV streaming support from their Amazon Fire app several months back, that was how we were accessing our UV (Vudu) movies on an upstairs TV. It's _chaos_ :D

Wow, thanks for mentioning that because I was going to buy a FireTV if they went on sale this holiday season, specifically for UV streaming.

The entire point of UV was supposed to be universality. Something bad is definitely going on. :(
 
The new UV app does support airplay streaming, so charge your iPads and go to the movies...

It seems some titles are limited to SD, which is weird. Maybe it's a file authorization mixup or something. Force Awakens was one title I tested that didn't have HD.

Edit: Just checked Force Awakens again and it's HDX now. That said, it's 6.1 on iTunes so moot. Other titles are still SD even though my entire catalog is HDX.
 
It's such a shame that Ultraviolet has been pretty much a damp squid since it was forced upon us, more so in the UK as my much preferred iTunes codes were replaced mainly by Ultraviolet with TV playback options severely limited.
Just received an email from Wuaki saying they're dropping support from the 1st March so that's my TVs app now longer going to be used.
I can still AirPlay via my iPhone but I find that slightly inconvenient.

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Another nail in the UV coffin. I've completely given up on Flixster / UV as it becomes increasingly difficult to view my movies on the platform. More accurately I suppose, I've given up on BR discs, and have committed to iTunes and 100% digital ... there's no way this can come back to haunt me
 
It's such a shame that Ultraviolet has been pretty much a damp squid since it was forced upon us, more so in the UK as my much preferred iTunes codes were replaced mainly by Ultraviolet with TV playback options severely limited.
Just received an email from Wuaki saying they're dropping support from the 1st March so that's my TVs app now longer going to be used.
I can still AirPlay via my iPhone but I find that slightly inconvenient.


Which app do you use to airplay please?

Thanks
 
It's such a shame that Ultraviolet has been pretty much a damp squid

That description cracked me up :D Totally agree with the sentiment.

Another nail in the UV coffin. I've completely given up on Flixster / UV as it becomes increasingly difficult to view my movies on the platform. More accurately I suppose, I've given up on BR discs, and have committed to iTunes and 100% digital ... there's no way this can come back to haunt me

I've been buying a decent number of titles through Google Play even though we're mostly an "Apple household" (in fact, just got a second ATV4 to replace an existing ATV3). They play very nicely through the ATV YouTube app, Disney sync up through the DMA service and at least it's a native ATV app vs. dealing with AirPlay + Vudu + crappy extras.

Side note: and this is in no way suggesting/promoting for piracy, but I'd love to be able to download my legitimately purchased Vudu movies (did a couple of batches of DVD-to-Digital), remove the DRM and just store them on my local media server - I mean, it would be simpler to simply have a nice Vudu ATV app, that integrated with search services, so when I said "Pulp Fiction" it found it in Vudu and gave me the option to play it directly.
 
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Which app do you use to airplay please?

Thanks

I'm using Flixster as it's the only one that shows the fully library of content in the UK, then have to use AirPlay Mirroring which is the only way to AirPlay as far as I'm aware.
You may need to change the Airplay overscan settings on the AppleTV to make it fit the width of the screen.
 
When it was time to replace the TV's in our house, I opted for 'smart' TV's as they support the Flixster app and that's where I store the UV titles.

I still wish they would create the Apple TV app. I came to this thread, hoping against hope, that it had been released.
 
When it was time to replace the TV's in our house, I opted for 'smart' TV's as they support the Flixster app and that's where I store the UV titles.

I still wish they would create the Apple TV app. I came to this thread, hoping against hope, that it had been released.


I'm waiting for an itunes app on the Roku, wonder which will come first?
 
I'm waiting for an itunes app on the Roku, wonder which will come first?
Flixster is not a hardware competitor.
iTunes will not appear on a hardware competitor.
More fair would be to compare Amazon and Apple.
Is Amazon selling Apple TVs again ?
Do we have a Amazon Video (or Prime) app on Apple TV ?

All companies are the same, they look at their own bottom line.
 
Yeah, Amazon has competing hardware and ecosystems vs. Apple, the latter we know is going to keep their ecosystem limited to their hardware - but it seems like a miscue for a content distribution service like UV (and Vudu), who don't have a competing hardware product to not want their service on as many devices as possible.

Disney provides a "hub" for content re-distribution through multiple devices/consumption channels, even Google Play allows movies purchases/rentals through YT >> Apple TV, and that's kind of [even if indirectly] a competing hardware platform.
 
Yeah, Amazon has competing hardware and ecosystems vs. Apple, the latter we know is going to keep their ecosystem limited to their hardware - but it seems like a miscue for a content distribution service like UV (and Vudu), who don't have a competing hardware product to not want their service on as many devices as possible.

Disney provides a "hub" for content re-distribution through multiple devices/consumption channels, even Google Play allows movies purchases/rentals through YT >> Apple TV, and that's kind of [even if indirectly] a competing hardware platform.

I had no idea you could watch Google movies through YT - how do you do that?
 
I had no idea you could watch Google movies through YT - how do you do that?

You just need to have a Google account (i.e., a GMail account), then link that to a YT account (new account might even do this automatically, otherwise, setup a YT account and link it ... I did this a long time ago before Google consumed YouTube so not sure of the exact workflow, but it should be pretty obvious).

Then make movie purchases through this same account via Google Play. The latter doesn't need to be associated with an Android account/device.

Then GP purchases will show up in the YouTube App under My Youtube >> Purchases (under Playlists) :cool:
 
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