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if the fold will not sell well, there will no second foldable ipad
so you cannot predict the second fold...it depends on the first one

One has nothing to do with the other.

This foldable will sell very well. It’s a brand new form factor for the iPhone
 
Apple stock is up 300+% since 2019

iPhone sales is up 22% since 2019. Market is mature, and this does not take into account services revenue that is significantly increased.

Please provide an example of Apple being only one year behind the first mover, other than the old days of Macs which was a very different market than today. Even iPod was two years after competition. Large screen phones was two years behind, in a market moving much faster than today.

I agree that there are several examples of failures, but Jobs had failures too. None of the current failures are life threatening to the company. Not even the AI debacle, which is a LOT more serious than a delayed VR headset that nobody wants. The fact that Apple Inc is this resilient, is 100% Tim Cook’s responsibility. Please provide your suggestion on who would do it better. It’s easy to yell at the sky that Cook should go, but a lot less easy to point at someone better.
How shortsighted quoting growth since 2019. Im talking about the here and now and into the future. The smart phone has plateaued and Apple are going to find out very soon that feeling the same stale iPhone year after year while their competitors try bold new, and dare I say it - innovative things, is going to leave them behind in the longer run. We thought AR was the next big thing, but Apple dont have AR glasses ready, and released Vision Pro - while a feat of engineering, is priced so ludicrously that it remains out of reach and stagnates and growth in that new category.

You’re missing the bigger picture, but I see it. I don’t know exactly who should replace Cook, but it has to be a visionary, product-driven leader like Jobs — not someone who just signs off on a roadmap built from leftover components of past products.
 
Saw someone trying to use a side-hinged foldable phone while commuting the other day. Whole process looked precarious and awkward.
Phablets bad enough, but then to double the real estate? Why are we meant to be excited by this? Or just more PT Barnum School of Retail Humbug by manufacturers?
 
How shortsighted quoting growth since 2019. Im talking about the here and now and into the future. The smart phone has plateaued and Apple are going to find out very soon that feeling the same stale iPhone year after year while their competitors try bold new, and dare I say it - innovative things, is going to leave them behind in the longer run. We thought AR was the next big thing, but Apple dont have AR glasses ready, and released Vision Pro - while a feat of engineering, is priced so ludicrously that it remains out of reach and stagnates and growth in that new category.

You’re missing the bigger picture, but I see it. I don’t know exactly who should replace Cook, but it has to be a visionary, product-driven leader like Jobs — not someone who just signs off on a roadmap built from leftover components of past products.
Exactly, just like everyone else you have no suggestion for someone better. Cook leaving will not improve Apple. The smartphone will still have plateaued, and the majority of customers will still buy a good quality boring phone, over new and exciting without a use case. Just like Toyota is still the world’s largest car manufacturer.

You even bring the argument against it yourself - Apple jumped on the AR bandwagon, but it has not taken off. Not for Apple, not for Meta. Sure, Meta sells more than Apple, but it is no iPhone replacement. Nothing is. Which is why criticising Cook for not bringing a new iPhone level success story is so ludicrous.

You’re the shortsighted one here. Apple is better positioned to be the market leader 20 years from now, than any other company.

Edit: Look in the comment section of this article from 2019 - plenty of people making the exact same arguments you are making, yet here we are in 2025 and the company value has tripled. Can you tell me exactly when this supposed collapse that is just around the corner is going to happen?

 
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Not quite sure about that. Graphical computer interface, iMac, iPod and iPhone at least were more or less genre defining products.
Genre defining yes. First, not even close. Not as products, but yes there were individual features that could be said to be first. I assumed we were talking about i.e. the first VR glasses, the first smartwatch etc., not about individual features.

Apple Watch is most certainly a “genre defining product”, that Tim Cook’s Apple produced. But not the first smartwatch.
 
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Apple plans to release a foldable iPhone in 2026, and will then follow it up with a foldable iPad in 2028, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today.

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Multiple sources have now confirmed that Apple is planning to release its first foldable iPhone in 2026, with the device coming as part of the iPhone 18 lineup. Launch timing on a larger-screened foldable device has been more uncertain.

Originally, rumors indicated that the foldable iPad or MacBook would come before the iPhone, and there have been launch rumors with dates ranging from 2026 to 2028. Rumors have also varied between calling the foldable device an iPad and a MacBook, but it seems like all of the information about a larger foldable refers to the same product. The foldable iPad could have a screen between 18 and 20 inches when unfolded, with a smaller form factor when closed.

According to Kuo, Apple is using ultra-thin cover glass for both the foldable iPhone and foldable iPad, which is a rumor that we've heard before. Corning will supply the ultra-thin cover glass, but General Interface Solutions (GIS) will work with Corning on cutting, corner treatments, inspection, packaging, and shipping.

Kuo expects Apple to sell somewhere between 8 to 10 million foldable iPhones in 2026, and up to 25 million in 2027. The larger-screened foldable is not expected to sell as well because Kuo says it will be priced "considerably higher" than the foldable iPhone.

Article Link: Foldable iPhone Coming in 2026, Foldable iPad to Follow in 2028
 


Apple plans to release a foldable iPhone in 2026, and will then follow it up with a foldable iPad in 2028, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today.

Apple-Foldable-Thumb.jpg

Multiple sources have now confirmed that Apple is planning to release its first foldable iPhone in 2026, with the device coming as part of the iPhone 18 lineup. Launch timing on a larger-screened foldable device has been more uncertain.

Originally, rumors indicated that the foldable iPad or MacBook would come before the iPhone, and there have been launch rumors with dates ranging from 2026 to 2028. Rumors have also varied between calling the foldable device an iPad and a MacBook, but it seems like all of the information about a larger foldable refers to the same product. The foldable iPad could have a screen between 18 and 20 inches when unfolded, with a smaller form factor when closed.

According to Kuo, Apple is using ultra-thin cover glass for both the foldable iPhone and foldable iPad, which is a rumor that we've heard before. Corning will supply the ultra-thin cover glass, but General Interface Solutions (GIS) will work with Corning on cutting, corner treatments, inspection, packaging, and shipping.

Kuo expects Apple to sell somewhere between 8 to 10 million foldable iPhones in 2026, and up to 25 million in 2027. The larger-screened foldable is not expected to sell as well because Kuo says it will be priced "considerably higher" than the foldable iPhone.

Article Link: Foldable iPhone Coming in 2026, Foldable iPad to Follow in 2028

" foldable iPad or MacBook" I have three MacBooks already, and they all fold.

I have three MacBooks already, and they all fold.
 
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