Because faceID is considered a premium feature and the foldable is rumored to be extremely thin and the hardware for faceID takes up too much internal space to fit in the foldable currently.
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Foldable iPhone Rumored to Feature Four Cameras, Touch ID, and More
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Because faceID is considered a premium feature and the foldable is rumored to be extremely thin and the hardware for faceID takes up too much internal space to fit in the foldable currently.
I wonder if the iPhone Air was designed as a precursor to the folding iPhone. The folding iPhone is going to have both sides be extremely thin so that the phone is not too thick when closed. I assume Apple had to miniaturize the technology for that reason and then reused the work for the iPhone Air.
I can't explain the mini, it really should have FaceID. As for foldables, the FaceID sensor is likely too big for the front half, which is consistently thin throughout (as opposed to the rear half which houses the camera/large camera bumps on the back).
That said, Samsung has found a way to include their inferior FaceID type tech in the front half (admittedly I don't know if the size of the hardware for the tech is different for each company).
"FaceID module thickness" is an engineering challenge, nothing more. The foldable is a year away and at the rumored price point (starting at $1,999) I would expect engineering challenges to be behind us ...
You’re not wrong and I’m sure will capitalize on it as an engineering marvel for a successor fold down the road.
The reason I never loved Touch ID is I have experience with some relatives who had trouble with it. Face ID in this regard seems to be a better idea. If there is no Face ID then it’s surrogate should be on-screen touch-to-unlock, because it’s possible to have on-screen Touch ID be far more instructive and obvious then hidden Touch ID on a button.
Same here. I have no interest in a phone with TouchID. My iPad 10 is inconsistently bad. It’s much easier to use my PIN.
If this can be used with an Apple Pencil, I will buy; if not, not.
I’ll wait until the second or third generation. Even if Apple gained plenty of knowledge on making a folding phone from taking apart every folding phone manufactured by Samsung and other companies in their labs, there could be something Apple overlooked with their first one.
This is exactly what they have been saying since the announcement of the iPhone air
They are just not innovating at all here. It should fold over TWICE to be 1/4 the size. Nobody is doing that yet!
Thanks for representing me 😊. What you report has been my experience for several years now. I missed TouchID when i upgraded from my iPh 6 to the XS in 2018. How much i miss Touch ID i am reminded of daily since i got an iPad mini in 2022. I also have the 12” M2 iPad pro with FaceID. For me, TouchID on my iPad mini and on my MB Pro has been consistently more reliable than FaceID, thus faster. I know, the Foldable will cost more than replacing my XS and the iPad mini but to have 2 devices in one and having an iPhone with TouchID again make me very interested in the Foldable. I started saving …
Foldable phones are the wave of the future, and apple once again is the spearhead of technology. Combine that with the futuristic features of Siri and a single unified app store and you have yourself bleeding edge hardware and software. OH YEAH!
Opposite for me and a lot of other folks.
Touchid is unreliable, faceid is superior
The fifth one gets installed by your proctologist. Rumor has it, it will be an 8K with built-in 1600X microscope.
That's not so bad, plus the MBP can unlock itself if you're wearing your Apple Watch, and I find THAT to be super convenient.
I never said that. Now...the guy who was saying we can't have writable CDs and DVDs, that was me. But I swallowed my pride, admitted my mistake, and turned over a new leaf.
And I love the concept of a foldable. Phone, that is, not CD or DVD.
Bonus points for bringing MR to Star Trek.
Also the Internet: Apple never innovates anymore.
Also the Internet: I hate these new things from Apple!
Also the Internet: I'm bored. I'm going back to my cat videos.
I'm glad you raised this point. But then either Apple needs to come out with a "shortie" version of the Apple Pencil, or we need a place to carry said Apple Pencil with us. Oh hey, maybe there'll be an "Apple Pencil: Foldable Edition", huh?
This is a valid plan. I may do the same.
I've heard it said that it's impossible to fold a piece of paper in half more than 7 times. Let's test that with the iPhone 17!
Fine. But will it support Pencil?
No Pencil support, no purchase for me. Pencil 2 is what makes my iPad mini 6 my fav iPad to date.
No Pencil support, no purchase for me. Pencil 2 is what makes my iPad mini 6 my fav iPad to date.
I wish the foldable was being released this year. I have been using iOS since the first gen, but planning to purchase the Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold. Want something more exciting. Apple is too boring and have lost my patience with them.
Considering how cameras are probably the main driver of new high end iPhone buyers....it's wild that Apple expects people to shell out a minimum of $1999 for a phone and it doesn't even have the Pro/3 camera system. They'll presumably omit the zoom camera, which also makes no sense to me. I'd MUCH rather have the zoom lens that I use all the time rather than the wide angle I almost never use. I'm sure it comes down to packaging and size, but no zoom camera=no purchase. But that's just me.