Foldable iPhone Ultra Battery Capacity Allegedly Registered by Supplier

[Dave245]

Nope. I am making a factual statement of value. You can pretend that 2 cameras are better than 3, in order to justify your own purchase. But it is factual that 3 has more value than 2. That isn't up for debate.

And the cameras are just 1 in a long string of compromises being made to achieve this form factor

Of course it’s up for debate 🙄, if someone isn’t going to use the third camera then it’s not useful. Who said anything about my own purchase? I may decide to buy or I may not.

Just because it’s not for you, doesn’t mean it’s not for others. It doesn’t mean Apple won’t help move the market forward.

 

[Gorlammi]

Of course it’s up for debate 🙄, if someone isn’t going to use the third camera then it’s not useful. Who said anything about my own purchase? I may decide to buy or I may not.

Just because it’s not for you, doesn’t mean it’s not for others. It doesn’t mean Apple won’t help move the market forward.

I think you're misunderstanding, or something. It isn't up for debate whether 3 cameras is more valuable than 2.

You can, however, decide whether that offering is acceptable to you for what you're paying and what else you might be getting with that purchase. I happily went from a 16 Pro Max to an iPhone Air last year. I was willing to trade 2 cameras, some battery life, and better speakers for the thin and light design.

But the iPhone Air is no where near the level of compromise that we're about to see with the foldable. The iPhone Air has a specifically desirable form factor (thin, light). The iPhone Fold appears to have an objectionable form factor (short fat, thick and heavy while folded). And replacing Face ID with Side Button Touch ID is perhaps the biggest downgrade in the history of iPhone. If it were under-display Touch ID...maybe it could be tolerable...it would still be a downgrade, but wouldn't be as bad of a UX as the side button is. But that isn't what's happening. And the price looks to be astronomical. All of this is to achieve ONE thing...the ability to unfold it into a device that's bigger than a Pro Max, but smaller than an iPad mini.

I'm not a hater on the foldable concept. I think it's neat. But I'm also realistic and not delusional. And I have a hard time seeing how 1 single benefit (unfolding it to a larger size) is worth ALL of those compromises in order to achieve it.

 

[ofarlig]

I think you're misunderstanding, or something. It isn't up for debate whether 3 cameras is more valuable than 2.

You can, however, decide whether that offering is acceptable to you for what you're paying and what else you might be getting with that purchase. I happily went from a 16 Pro Max to an iPhone Air last year. I was willing to trade 2 cameras, some battery life, and better speakers for the thin and light design.

But the iPhone Air is no where near the level of compromise that we're about to see with the foldable. The iPhone Air has a specifically desirable form factor (thin, light). The iPhone Fold appears to have an objectionable form factor (short fat, thick and heavy while folded). And replacing Face ID with Side Button Touch ID is perhaps the biggest downgrade in the history of iPhone. If it were under-display Touch ID...maybe it could be tolerable...it would still be a downgrade, but wouldn't be as bad of a UX as the side button is. But that isn't what's happening. And the price looks to be astronomical. All of this is to achieve ONE thing...the ability to unfold it into a device that's bigger than a Pro Max, but smaller than an iPad mini.

I'm not a hater on the foldable concept. I think it's neat. But I'm also realistic and not delusional. And I have a hard time seeing how 1 single benefit (unfolding it to a larger size) is worth ALL of those compromises in order to achieve it.

I think the aspect ratio of the outside display is better than a slab phone given that you have the larger screen on the inside. I need a wider display more often than I need a taller one for quick every day use.

The only compromise I see with the foldable is the weight/thickness and no FaceID. But to have a device the size of the old styled iPad Mini in my pocket I think that is a good trade-off. I do hope that Apple manages to push the weight down to around 220 grams like Samsung managed to but that might not be the first gen.

 

[Dave245]

I think the aspect ratio of the outside display is better than a slab phone given that you have the larger screen on the inside. I need a wider display more often than I need a taller one for quick every day use.

The only compromise I see with the foldable is the weight/thickness and no FaceID. But to have a device the size of the old styled iPad Mini in my pocket I think that is a good trade-off. I do hope that Apple manages to push the weight down to around 220 grams like Samsung managed to but that might not be the first gen.

I also think the one great thing will be multitasking. I can deal with Touch ID, i have it on my MacBook Air.

The iPhone Ultra is suppose to be thinner than the iPhone Air when it’s opened

 

[Gorlammi]

I need a wider display more often than I need a taller one for quick every day use.

To me, this just reads like coping. No one has ever said they want a phone that looks like this. And in 20 years, Apple has never made anything resembling this. For good reason. To pretend like all of a sudden this is a desired form factor is nuts. It is a necessary form factor, to achieve the unfolded one.

 

[Gorlammi]

I can deal with Touch ID, i have it on my MacBook Air.

You have Touch ID on the keyboard in a natural position to reach with your hand, because your hands are already there. And even still, it is a bit annoying. I let Apple Watch unlock my Mac for this exact reason.

This pales in comparison to the hassle of putting your finger on the side button for Touch ID. I have it on an iPad Air and is truly terrible. Doing that 100 times a day on an iPhone will be immeasurably bad. And also consider, the side button will move around depending on the folded/unfolded state and orientation. Never in the same place.

 

[Dave245]

You have Touch ID on the keyboard in a natural position to reach with your hand, because your hands are already there. And even still, it is a bit annoying. I let Apple Watch unlock my Mac for this exact reason.

This pales in comparison to the hassle of putting your finger on the side button for Touch ID. I have it on an iPad Air and is truly terrible. Doing that 100 times a day on an iPhone will be immeasurably bad. And also consider, the side button will move around depending on the folded/unfolded state and orientation. Never in the same place.

It was on the iPhone before Touch ID also, it really isn’t that bad. At some point in the future im sure Apple will find a way to include Face ID. I get it that this foldable might not be for you, that’s fine, it may not even be for me i watch the event and decide. Calling it a bad device before it even comes out, based on form factor, 2 cameras instead of 3 and Touch ID instead of Face ID.

What about the good points? Multitasking will be better, great to view content on, a new form factor for Apple fans. Cameras might actually be good, we just don’t know at this point since Apple haven’t announced it yet.

 

[ofarlig]

To me, this just reads like coping. No one has ever said they want a phone that looks like this. And in 20 years, Apple has never made anything resembling this. For good reason. To pretend like all of a sudden this is a desired form factor is nuts. It is a necessary form factor, to achieve the unfolded one.

Because before you obviously didn’t have a big inside display to use for the things where a bigger display is needed. Current phone screens are a compromise, it needs to do everything people want to do on their phones while fitting in a pocket because it’s the only screen they got.

So my requirements and preferences for a phone screens changes a lot if I also have a tablet with me at all time which is what the foldable phone does. I don’t require the front screen to do 100% of the tasks I need a phone to do and instead to only do the tasks on the go, and I never needed a tall 6.9” for that.

 

[Gorlammi]

Because before you obviously didn’t have a big inside display to use for the things where a bigger display is needed. Current phone screens are a compromise, it needs to do everything people want to do on their phones while fitting in a pocket because it’s the only screen they got.

So my requirements and preferences for a phone screens changes a lot if I also have a tablet with me at all time which is what the foldable phone does. I don’t require the front screen to do 100% of the tasks I need a phone to do and instead to only do the tasks on the go, and I never needed a tall 6.9” for that.

Not quite. You will have an unfolded display that is smaller than the smallest iPad. It is not large enough to achieve true tablet utility like you would have with a real iPad. It will be good for viewing some content slightly larger: photos, web pages, PDFs. Video not so much. That's about it.

 

[ofarlig]

Not quite. You will have an unfolded display that is smaller than the smallest iPad. It is not large enough to achieve true tablet utility like you would have with a real iPad. It will be good for viewing some content slightly larger: photos, web pages, PDFs. Video not so much. That's about it.

It will be almost the size of the iPad Mini 1-5 which was great devices, and more importantly it has a better aspect ratio than the slab phones for anything other than video. The iPad Minis have always been the only iPads that make sense as pure handheld devices for me so that’s just the size I want in a foldable.

I think it will be great to use and see no real downsides, so it really is a instant purchase for me if the rumours are true.