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Sounds like a gimmick when body heat already keeps the phone warm.

Cyclists mount phones on handlebars all the time. If the display is too brittle it will brack when someone folds the phone after a ride in cold weather.
A women's handbag is another obvious example.
 
OK so no real proof just you overly exaggerating with that creases in the middle of the screen thing.
You did exactly what I was expecting :D
So taking this into consideration Samsung and Huawei should have done the same is quite a strange advice.

I’m not sure why more proof is needed. We have seen the devices already. They have a crease down the middle. You expect that to be fixed in a month? And yes, they should have worked through the crease issues before presenting their products.
 
Cyclists mount phones on handlebars all the time. If the display is too brittle it will brack when someone folds the phone after a ride in cold weather.
A women's handbag is another obvious example.
I don't think many cyclists would fit a £1600 /$2000phone on their handlebars :)
I use a phone in a special pouch at my handlebars for Strava and Mapmyride. However it need to be a 5 inch device. My Huawei P20 Pro won't fit. My Lenovo P2 just fits when taken out of its case. I keep my active phone in the beast pocket of my cycling jacket.
 
I’m not sure why more proof is needed. We have seen the devices already. They have a crease down the middle. You expect that to be fixed in a month? And yes, they should have worked through the crease issues before presenting their products.

LoL, you didn't provide any proof at all and you keep talking about something else :rolleyes:
 
Folding phones are nothing short of gimmicky. I don’t need a phone that turns into a square tablet and I certainly don’t need any moving parts on a already delicate $1500 phone. I need a battery that will last me a week before a charge and shatterproof glass - lets perfect those important details first.
 
LoL, you didn't provide any proof at all and you keep talking about something else :rolleyes:

You’re not really making any sense. If you haven’t seen the creases, there are plenty of pictures out there. Look em up. The creases are what I’m talking about, they should have gotten them right before bringing to market. If you are cool with them, great. I think it’s pretty crappy that they are moving forward with them though.
 
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You’re not really making any sense. If you haven’t seen the creases, there are plenty of pictures out there. Look em up. The creases are what I’m talking about, they should have gotten them right before bringing to market. If you are cool with them, great. I think it’s pretty crappy that they are moving forward with them though.
Stop with the creases already, they don't prove what keep claiming they prove.
I don't care to hear your biased assumptions, especially when you are very obviously overly negative to no end towards anybody/anything that is not Apple.

You acted like Samsung and Huawei didn't take in account cold weather(like it's an actual fact) when they designed their foldable phones. Prove it that they didn't or stop talking.
 
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Good to see Apple looking for solutions to issues with foldable screens prior to releasing. Samsung and Huawei should have done the same.
You have got I suspect, zero knowledge about this.
It is very naive to believe that Samsung and Huawei haven't undertaken extensive environmental testing along with other tests. No one on this forum is able to comment on the working environment that the foldable screen is specified to work in.
All this comes from a citing of a patent application by Apple. And people stating that maybe Samsung should have thought of this. Seriously.
The way some people are desperate for these products to fail would be sad if it wasn't so funny. Almost as funny as listening to Americans trying to say van Gogh :)
 
Stop with the creases already, they don't prove what keep claiming they prove.
I don't care to hear your biased assumptions, especially when you are very obviously overly negative to no end towards anybody/anything that is not Apple.

You acted like Samsung and Huawei didn't take in account cold weather(like it's an actual fact) when they destined their foldable phones. Prove it that they didn't or stop talking.

I see comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I’ll try and spell it out. Read very slowly. The article is an example of Apple working to solve issues with foldable screens before bringing them to market. On the other hand, Samsung and Huawei are bringing their products to market without fixing their obvious issue, creased screens. They should have fixed that issue prior to bringing their products to market. Hope that helped, moving on.
 
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I wonder why Samsung didn't think of this? Or spend years working on this tech?

Companies never make product development mistakes?

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You have got I suspect, zero knowledge about this.
It is very naive to believe that Samsung and Huawei haven't undertaken extensive environmental testing along with other tests. No one on this forum is able to comment on the working environment that the foldable screen is specified to work in.
All this comes from a citing of a patent application by Apple. And people stating that maybe Samsung should have thought of this. Seriously.
The way some people are desperate for these products to fail would be sad if it wasn't so funny. Almost as funny as listening to Americans trying to say van Gogh :)

My post has nothing to do with environmental testing specifically, more so the fact that Apple is fully exploring and working to fix these issues prior to bringing a product to market. Samsung and Huawei should have done the same with their creased screen problem. See above if you need further help understanding.
 
I see comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I’ll try and spell it out. Read very slowly. The article is an example of Apple working to solve issues with foldable screens before bringing them to market. On the other hand, Samsung and Huawei are bringing their products to market without fixing their obvious issue, creased screens. They should have fixed that issue prior to bringing their products to market. Hope that helped, moving on.
Right back at you, my reading comprehension is fine, you should be more clear with what you write.
You suspect Apple is working to solve issues with foldable screens before bringing them to market. Big difference.
The patented idea presented in this article is trivial at best. It doesn't prove anything regarding Apple's strives with foldable phones or that they are doing something other companies didn't do. Apple's ability to mitigate supposedly inherent screen issues is minimal taking in consideration they don't have and won't have the expertise and technology to engineer and manufacture foldable screens.

Also you have 0 knowledge regarding the creases thing, all you try to do is: draw overly negative conclusions and make absurd rants based on the fact that you are excessively biased against anybody/anything that is not Apple.
Its like I would take this article and based on it's subject I would keep insisting on the idea that all iPhones are just trash and all other companies are doing a much batter job than Apple and they always take their time and the right decisions etc. etc.
 
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My post has nothing to do with environmental testing specifically, more so the fact that Apple is fully exploring and working to fix these issues prior to bringing a product to market. Samsung and Huawei should have done the same with their creased screen problem. See above if you need further help understanding.
Because you were "unspecificly" commenting on Apple applying for a patent concerning issues with cold conditions, there is the implication that your reply encompassed cold issues.
In fact your exact statement being "unspecific" implied that Samsung hadn't done anything to look into possible issues.
And again you are implying that Samsung have released their folding phone. They have announced their folding phone.
 
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Because you were "unspecificly" commenting on Apple applying for a patent concerning issues with cold conditions, there is the implication that your reply encompassed cold issues.
In fact your exact statement being "unspecific" implied that Samsung hadn't done anything to look into possible issues.
And again you are implying that Samsung have released their folding phone. They have announced their folding phone.

I get your point and that is why I spelled it out for you further and updated my original post. I hope you now understand.
 
Because you were "unspecificly" commenting on Apple applying for a patent concerning issues with cold conditions, there is the implication that your reply encompassed cold issues.
In fact your exact statement being "unspecific" implied that Samsung hadn't done anything to look into possible issues.
And again you are implying that Samsung have released their folding phone. They have announced their folding phone.
Yeah now wait for his response:

But is has a crease it's just trash... It's has a crease...Apple is doing a much better job...

That's all he can do.
 
I get your point and that is why I spelled it out for you further and updated my original post. I hope you now understand.
If you "get my point", perhaps it would be better to make a new post clarifying that you are not in any way inferring that Samsung have issues with their screen in cold conditions. Editing a post to clarify a meaning should have EDIT statement. It's not spelling or grammar after all.

EDIT: I doubt if I was the only one to "misunderstand" your original post.
 
If you "get my point", perhaps it would be better to make a new post clarifying that you are not in any way inferring that Samsung have issues with their screen in cold conditions. Editing a post to clarify a meaning should have EDIT statement. It's not spelling or grammar after all.

EDIT: I doubt if I was the only one to "misunderstand" your original post.

I updated my post. I didn't think it was too hard to understand. It was just a general point about foldable screen issues and that I am happy Apple is working to resolve any. Really only you and ROG are having trouble understanding.
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Right back at you, my reading comprehension is fine, you should be more clear with what you write.
You suspect Apple is working to solve issues with foldable screens before bringing them to market. Big difference.
The patented idea presented in this article is trivial at best. It doesn't prove anything regarding Apple's strives with foldable phones or that they are doing something other companies didn't do. Apple's ability to mitigate supposedly inherent screen issues is minimal taking in consideration they don't have and won't have the expertise and technology to engineer and manufacture foldable screens.

Also you have 0 knowledge regarding the creases thing, all you try to do is: draw overly negative conclusions and make absurd rants based on the fact that you are excessively biased against anybody/anything that is not Apple.
Its like I would take this article and based on it's subject I would keep insisting on the idea that all iPhones are just trash and all other companies are doing a much batter job than Apple and they always take their time and the right decisions etc. etc.

Yup, I updated the post for you so you can understand. Yea I am no engineer, but I can see a creased screen and I think that's a big problem. I think they should have fixed that problem. If Apple released a product with a screen crease, I would be saying that's a big problem as well.
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Yeah now wait for his response:

But is has a crease it's just trash... It's has a crease...Apple is doing a much better job...

That's all he can do.

Nope. I think a creased screen is a problem, whether it came from Apple or Samsung.
 
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I updated my post. I didn't think it was too hard to understand. It was just a general point about foldable screen issues and that I am happy Apple is working to resolve any.

You don't seem to know much about patent applications. I have around 15 US patents (lost count) and a couple of them were just concepts I had. I never did any work on them. They were place holders in case my company wanted to explore them at a later date. Or just have them as part of a patent portfolio that could be used in future litigation etc. No working prototypes were required for the patent coucil. A working prototype helped our patent attorneys draft a better application. None of the detailed drawings etc one sees in applications were done by myself or other engineers. These were created by technical authors.
 
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You don't seem to know much about patent applications. I have around 15 US patents (lost count) and a couple of them were just concepts I had. I never did any work on them. They were place holders in case my company wanted to explore them at a later date. Or just have them as part of a patent portfolio that could be used in future litigation etc. No working prototypes were required for the patent coucil. A working prototype helped our patent attorneys draft a better application. None of the detailed drawings etc one sees in applications were done by myself or other engineers. These were created by technical authors.

I understand all that and I know that this patent doesn't prove they have a working concept of it or anything, just that they are working to fix some of these issues prior to bringing anything to market. I think that is a better approach than bringing a product to market that has an obvious issue like a creased screen. I hope they fix it, but I am not sure they will given the timeline.
 
Yup, I updated the post for you so you can understand. Yea I am no engineer, but I can see a creased screen and I think that's a big problem. I think they should have fixed that problem. If Apple released a product with a screen crease, I would be saying that's a big problem as well.
Oh so now you are acting like I'm the problem because you wrote something ambiguous?

Anyway I doubt it taking in consideration how you've been defending their latest ipad pro which is just an ordinary tablet. Yeah years after the iphone 6 Plus, Apple decided to make another product with garbage structural integrity. How is something like this possible? Greed?

Some of your posts defending the iPad Pro.
The one where you mention: To expect perfection is as ignorant as it gets is very very amusing if we apply it to the context of foldable phones.

Heads are gonna explode haha. You ain’t getting the response you want. Keep the tears flowing though. Moving on.

I am still not seeing this as the earth shattering issue some are making it out to be
That’s my point, I wish you would. Instead of stomping your feet and crying to the internet, you should realize that in the business world, manufacturing defects happen. To expect perfection is as ignorant as it gets.

No, not at all. I’m trying to bring some actual common sense and logic to a forum full of hyberbole driven over dramatic tech fans. There’s a lot of good conversations to be had in these forums, but weeding out those from the sensationalist nonsense can be difficult.

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Nope. I think a creased screen is a problem, whether it came from Apple or Samsung.
OK so then why do you keep trash talking Samsung and Huawei(and that's the only thing you do) and at the same time attempt to make Apple look good by comparison regarding the subject of foldable screens?
 
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I understand all that and I know that this patent doesn't prove they have a working concept of it or anything, just that they are working to fix some of these issues prior to bringing anything to market. I think that is a better approach than bringing a product to market that has an obvious issue like a creased screen. I hope they fix it, but I am not sure they will given the timeline.
The fact that they have made patent applications about methods of heating flexible screens in cold weather, does not mean they are working on any of the methods. It's common for companies to have brainstorming meatings to come up with ideas like these in the application. And that's it. Filed for future use. Maybe :)
 
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Oh so now you are acting like I'm the problem because you wrote something ambiguous?

Anyway I doubt it taking in consideration how you've been defending their latest ipad pro which is just an ordinary tablet. Yeah years after the iphone 6 Plus, Apple decided to make another product with garbage structural integrity. How is something like this possible? Greed?

Some of your posts defending the iPad Pro.
The one where you mention: To expect perfection is as ignorant as it gets is very very amusing if we apply it to the context of foldable phones.

Nope, I updated my post so you and others can understand. I can't say why they ran into a manufacturing issue with the new Pro, but I can only go by my own experience. I don't have any bend and it's been a great device. There is a difference from my previous posts about the iPad Pro (you are way too invested by the way) because I am talking about a manufacturing issue (which happens across the industry), not a design decision or component decision that affects potentially every device. Since my iPad Pro doesn't have a bend, it's obviously not an issue with every device, which points to a manufacturing issue. Now, as I said, it's possible that at Samsung's biggest event in years, where they are showing off the device they have been talking about since 2013, maybe there was simply an oversight or manufacturing issue with those devices to cause a creased screen. Maybe they can get it fixed by the release date, maybe they don't, we'll see.

Edit: I am criticizing Samsung and Huawei because they are the ones that are releasing products with creased screens. Two seperate companies, different manufacturers of the screens, same issue. Seems like a problem.

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The fact that they have made patent applications about methods of heating flexible screens in cold weather, does not mean they are working on any of the methods. It's common for companies to have brainstorming meatings to come up with ideas like these in the application. And that's it. Filed for future use. Maybe :)

Sure, that's all possible. I wouldn't think a company would file a patent about something they aren't working on, but okay.
 
Nope, I updated my post so you and others can understand. I can't say why they ran into a manufacturing issue with the new Pro, but I can only go by my own experience. I don't have any bend and it's been a great device. There is a difference from my previous posts about the iPad Pro (you are way too invested by the way) because I am talking about a manufacturing issue (which happens across the industry), not a design decision or component decision that affects potentially every device. Since my iPad Pro doesn't have a bend, it's obviously not an issue with every device, which points to a manufacturing issue. Now, as I said, it's possible that at Samsung's biggest event in years, where they are showing off the device they have been talking about since 2013, maybe there was simply an oversight or manufacturing issue with those devices to cause a creased screen. Maybe they can get it fixed by the release date, maybe they don't, we'll see.

Stop right there, I don't need to hear one more time your excuses regarding the iPad Pro.
And you conveniently ignore that all the latest iPad pros have very poor structural integrity(which is something I clearly mentioned in my post).
Are you payed by the post or something?

Now, as I said
At this point anything you try to say is irrelevant anyway.
 
Sure, that's all possible. I wouldn't think a company would file a patent about something they aren't working on, but okay.
Like I said, you don't understand patent applications. Companies do submit applications on things they aren't working on. I explained possible reasons in an earlier post.
 
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