Charliebird
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Materials cannot be bendable and hard at the same time.The last real hurdle now is to make the screen durable enough to withstand a fingernail
Materials cannot be bendable and hard at the same time.The last real hurdle now is to make the screen durable enough to withstand a fingernail
The problem with Fold isn’t the crease. It’s that there isn’t a big enough need or pain point that would require this kind of contraption as a solution.
When opened, the iPhone Fold will basically be the same size (a bit bigger) as the current Pro Max in landscape. But when you fold it, it becomes smaller and fits better in your pocket. Because for all Pro Max users, fitting it into a pocket has been a huge problem. Such a huge problem, in fact, that a $2500 Fold is totally justified.
Or maybe not.
My prediction? This is going to flop badly. In fact, I believe the iPhone Fold’s failure will kill off foldables altogether, and they’ll go down in history as a short-lived experiment.
No one is forcing you to buy it.A shame you are going to be forced to buy this then. I on the other hand would love to have one device that is my phone and is an iPad that still fits in my pocket.
Phone screens have gotten very scratch resistant. Are folding screens really just as resistant? I'd be shocked.non issue now, only way it scratches is if you are trying hard to break it. no different to any other phone
Well the first step is googling how you put cases on the other folding phones.How do I put a case on a folding phone?
This is very possible. We’ve seen, for example, Samsung release various gimmicks (such as the old Edge models) that get people to buy them because of the novelty factor, but when there’s no real need or problem being solved and something is released just because it’s a “cool toy,” that kind of product usually doesn’t have a future.I'm not so sure? I'd agree with your argument except I think the early-adopters will drive sales of "version 1" of a folding iPhone, just to show off the feature itself and to carry something new/different in their pockets?
True. But somehow the Fold as a form factor feels more like a concept reminiscent of Nokia’s experiments in its last years before it collapsed, for example the E90 or the E71. Back then they tried to solve the problem of screen size versus phone usability in various traditional and clumsy ways. The Fold feels just as clumsy. We need a new “iPhone”. Some technology or device that solves the core problem in a completely new way.The bigger question, IMO, is where this technology will go as things progress. The first iPhone didn't even run native software apps. Everything was just a link to a web app. And look where we've come since then!
The problem with that specific example is that a Pro Max–sized device that unfolds into something bigger would become square-shaped when opened. If you watch videos on it, the video size would be practically the same as just rotating the current Pro Max into landscape mode. Sure, for other uses there would be some extra benefit, but in my opinion that benefit is minimal. A square-shaped screen is pretty useless.I'd really like to have a phone in my pocket that's not significantly thicker than my current iPhone 16 Pro Max but would provide 2x the screen real-estate just by flipping it open. I don't have problems carrying the current phone because it's still sized appropriately for my needs. I just wouldn't want to carry one that's much taller or wider -- so a folding phone that's similar makes sense. Makes even MORE sense if they allow it to run your formerly native iPad applications when it's flipped open and could match their same screen resolution over both panels.
The problem with Fold isn’t the crease. It’s that there isn’t a big enough need or pain point that would require this kind of contraption as a solution.
When opened, the iPhone Fold will basically be the same size (a bit bigger) as the current Pro Max in landscape. But when you fold it, it becomes smaller and fits better in your pocket. Because for all Pro Max users, fitting it into a pocket has been a huge problem. Such a huge problem, in fact, that a $2500 Fold is totally justified.
Or maybe not.
My prediction? This is going to flop badly. In fact, I believe the iPhone Fold’s failure will kill off foldables altogether, and they’ll go down in history as a short-lived experiment.
I won’t - and talking about why is literally what comment sections are for, sleeptodream. You might want to wake up to that part.Then don’t buy one?
I agree yeah. I only use my iPad at home and have no real use for it during the day on the move and could carry it now but I don't. It'll have its market but very much doubt and hope it doesn't become a mainstream iPhone that forces devices under it to lack the premium features. As long as Apple make Pro Max iPhones I will remain as a customer.I think it boils down to how many times a day an iPhone user wishes they had an iPad Mini instead to get a job done. We're talking about the convergence of those two devices after all, as it will run iPadOS (and iPad binaries) on the internal screen. From a software point of view its all taken care of.
It will be a nice device for some people but I can't see it becoming anything other than an enthusiast device. Personally I tried carry an iPad Mini everywhere for a few months and just found I missed my 11" iPad Pro or just used my iPhone.
I still don't see the point in a Trifold simply because it requires too much focus to use. You're not going to unfold that in the street and if you're sat at a table ready to deploy an M&KB then you may as well have just bought a laptop (or iPad with KB) in the first place.
Oh, cool. Another ‘revolutionary’ foldable Phone.
I don’t want a foldable phone - I want a solid, unkillable slab of iPhone glory with a multiday battery and a screen that doesn’t even know what a bezel is.
Foldable? Cute.
Very carefullyHow do I put a case on a folding phone?
Apple with its vast resources has researched this thoroughly. As a result they’ve identified the demand for a folding iPhone as worthy of their time and trouble.Let’s hope the foldable iPhone isn’t Apple’s focus for 2026. Not appealing to the masses so why waste RD resources? Apple truly needs to focus on OS optimization and AI for the rest of us 😊.
But I still wonder how common the use case really is where you specifically need to carry a portable device that can be unfolded into a larger one, especially when it costs around $2,500. People already have Macs and iPads at home, and many also carry a bag where they could bring one of those if they actually need a bigger screen. So isn’t the potential customer base for this Fold fairly small, considering the price? And is that really enough to justify starting an entire production line for it? The iPhone mini was always said to be unprofitable to keep in the lineup because there were too few users. There were still millions of users, though. And in the case of the mini, couldn’t you also say that “it’s good to have options”? That option is no longer available, even though many people clearly loved it.When opened the fold will be like 3 sizes bigger than pro max. That’s a massive difference
It won’t flop based on Apple projections and supply chain projections have Foldables growing even more in 2026
Foldables are obliged getting bigger and as more add better camera hardware in them and the more they get thinner and lighter the more likely people will buy them. Hense why fold 7 got good reviews due to weight being manageable on your pocket
With iPhones being same updates year after year camera hardware wise it’s not like people should buy the pros just for better cameras. Even Chinese brands this year are planning much better camera hardware on their Foldables
Foldables won’t be for everybody and that’s what it’s good to have choice.
It's a fair question to be honest and until it's released we don't know for sure on potential adoptionBut I still wonder how common the use case really is where you specifically need to carry a portable device that can be unfolded into a larger one, especially when it costs around $2,500. People already have Macs and iPads at home, and many also carry a bag where they could bring one of those if they actually need a bigger screen. So isn’t the potential customer base for this Fold fairly small, considering the price? And is that really enough to justify starting an entire production line for it? The iPhone mini was always said to be unprofitable to keep in the lineup because there were too few users. There were still millions of users, though. And in the case of the mini, couldn’t you also say that “it’s good to have options”? That option is no longer available, even though many people clearly loved it.
Really?The crease you have to go out of your way to look/feel for. I liken it to the notch or dynamic island, I didn't notice them when using the device. Feels like calling every iphone from the iPhone X to whichever iPhone is the first to get an underscreen selfie camera "betas".
That's because most of the really good foldable creases aren't on display anywhere. Those foldables are basically chinese phonesReally?
I've instantly been able to spot foldable phones on display whenever i walk into a store from 6 feet away, because it sticks out like dogs bollocks.
No.... they're at the samsung section of the store... dunno what phone it was (i'm not a samsung product identification guy - because tbh i have no real interest in their ecosystem) but as recently as december...That's because most of the really good foldable creases aren't on display anywhere. Those foldables are basically chinese phones
Fold 7 made a good improvement in crease but fold 6 was really bad.
Likely fold 7 then i imagine as doubt they would be displaying fold 6 nowNo.... they're at the samsung section of the store... dunno what phone it was but as recently as december...