For those who don't like to jailbreak

[seifer333]

My main reason is I've been told you cannot unlock the phone if you jailbreak now. So I'm waiting for the software unlock before I do so.

 

[Applejuiced]

1,000,000+ Everyday there is a thread that starts

I wanna Jailbreak how?

My JB phone rarely crashes, not Slow no Battery issues. If Apple ever figures out how to lock me out of JB I'd say that will be my last iPhone.

it's not for everybody and I don't think it should be.

Well said.
Also there's those who are impatient and dont like to wait to get the latest and newest firmware and then cry on how they accidentally updated and lost their unlock and JB.
Then you have those that just install everything there is on cydia and like mentioned above their iphone runs like crap, battery drains, slows down and many other things.
If you know what you're doing you will have the best of the JB world and your phone will be just as stable with no issues at all.
But like said above its not for everyone since not all know how to troubleshoot, ssh into the filesystem, fix and edit things that might go wrong etc...
I'd suggest people who JB to stick with the basics and stuff that are proven to work from reliable sources and repos. Dont install every new package that comes out.
I stick with Mywi, bitesms, Facebreak, Sbsettings, Nospot, voicemail forwarder and OpenSSH. Thats all I need and that makes my iphone experience complete without many of Apple's/AT&T's restrictions. Also I like to maintain my unlockable baseband version incase I decide to sell it down the road.
And all that without any problems like slowdowns, freezing, crashing or anything like that.

I don't like a program called snow with snow spelled wrong (zeros instead of O's) and some ugly a** looking and sounding program called Cydia. Make something professional looking and I will try a jailbreak.

Jailbreaking is not for OCD people
We mod our phones for the full acess and added functionality we get. Not for the name of the package, how its spelled, named or what the icon looks like.
You shouldnt try it if thats what you're looking for in jailbreaking.

 

[QuarterSwede]

If you know what you're doing you will have the best of the JB world and your phone will be just as stable with no issues at all.

Exactly. I've found that Winterboard is a huge culprit and never let it touch my system. I'm running probably a dozen tweaks and apps and have no problem. In most cases it's sped up my phone. SBSettings, No bookmarks, FolderCloser and NoAccessorySplash for instance.

We mod our phones for the full acess and added functionality we get. Not for the name of the package, how its spelled, named or what the icon looks like.

That's the truth. Cydia is definitely not a pretty app.

 

[Applejuiced]

Exactly. I've found that Winterboard is a huge culprit and never let it touch my system. I'm running probably a dozen tweaks and apps and have no problem. In most cases it's sped up my phone. SBSettings, No bookmarks, FolderCloser and NoAccessorySplash for instance.


That's the truth. Cydia is definitely not a pretty app.

Very well said.
I never liked or was into theming the iphone look and icons and I also stayed away from Winterboard since its a resource drain. If I do I change a minor few icons but I just replace them thru SSH.
I hear you on the Cydia not beeing pretty or slick looking and sometimes its slow especially after a new JB where tons of people are installing and acessing all main repos.
Even though Rock was alot better looking and had some cool features the fact that it was very buggy and unstable kept me away.
Not everyone keeps up with the JB scene to know what to do and what not to do. Also some find it confusing and complicated.
So I wouldnt suggest it for the average joe that hasnt researched at least the basics on jailbreaking and just pops up with a 1st post saying I want to unlock my iphone and I want to get free apps. How do I do it?

 

[mtnDewFTW]

I really don't see the need to jailbreak it. In my opinion, iOS is fine by itself. Plus, I don't wanna mess with any warranty stuff. Also, I don't care enough to jailbreak it. It works perfectly for me right now, so I don't see the need to. I actually never jailbroke any of my iOS devices. Never cared enough.

 

[soLoredd]

I tried it on both my iPhone 2G and then later on my 3GS. Both times it lasted about 2 weeks and then I just didn't care anymore.

More power to those who do it, though, the community has definitely pushed Apple to further iOS.

 

[ItsJustafnPhone]

the key is to do it in moderation

installing winterboatd, moving wallpapers, CPU hogging useless graphical mods are really dumb

I'm running sbsettings, miwi, tvout tuner and a few other packages that help me add features I think the iOS is missing, but nothing that hogs any extra CPU cycles

my iPhone ios 4.0 has never crashed and I see no incentive to upgrade to 4.1 or 4.2

 

[suss2it]

Performance decreases, stability issues, extra battery life drain, no need. Anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves silly. It's also a security issue, as most people install SSH but don't change their password. And most of the code is very unstable and not performance optimized. Jailbreak is like hacking, it's not a viable everyday solution.

What are you talking about? My iPhone 4 is jailbroken and I haven't noticed any stability issues or battery life drain.

I don't download much, the only jailbroken stuff on my phone right now that I use is Bite SMS, SB Settings & activator.

Activator is great because it lets you activate an app by holding the status bar or many other ways. I have my flashlight app, camera & settings all set to a certain thing like hold the status bar or double tap it or hold the home button and it activates. That right there is pretty useful. SBSettings is also really convienent, I can switch off my WiFi when not using it, or shut off 3G if I'm in an area that doesn't have it. And of course BiteSMS is useful because you can reply to texts without having to exist whatever app you may be in.

 

[lexvo]

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No jailbraking for me. I like to keep things simple, one of the reasons I switched to Apple.

 

[fishmoose]

For me I don't JB because I don't want to wait for a new firmware to be updated I want a new firmware the same minute Apple releases it. I also don't like that I have to restore my phone every time I would upgrade the firmware I have quite a lot of music on my iPhone and it's a pain adding it all again.

Also I use my iPhone as my primary phone number I give the number connected to the iPhone to people whom needs it, so I need it to work all the time which can't be guaranteed with a jailbreak.

 

[Phil A.]

I'm not at all interested in jailbreaking my iPhone, but will jailbreak my iPad when the 4.2.x jailbreak is released. The sole reason for jailbreaking my iPad is so I can use a mouse with remote desktop applications

 

[harleygold]

I wasn't that impressed...It had some cool features but for the most part was a giant pain in the butt

i agree. i've heard horror stories. I can't afford to get another if it bricks.

 

[abc123]

If my phone was my main computing/internet device then I would probably do it but I don't use it enough to justify the effort. The functionality out of the box combined with a few apps from the apple app store are more than what I need from a phone.

 

[localboy28]

I always jailbreak
I love the tweaks cydia has it makes the phone more user friendly

Also I get to use all the cool tweaks apple Havnt implemented yet.
Jailbreakers had folders months before apple brought it out.

I'd jailbreak for Bitesms and folderenhancer alone
Two great tweaks that apple should really be using in iOS

 

[ADMProducer]

I jailbreak for two reasons:

1. To tether my internet (not used often but when I do use it it comes in handy)

2. The app called Remove Background. Extremely useful app, I set the apps I want to run in the background like aim, skype etc. and then if i've used like 20 apps, by holding the home button for a few second it'll close all of the apps except the ones you've allowed to run, extremely useful app!

 

[vistadude]

Hahah good point.

But the main problem with jailbreaking is that it's so disorganized. If you goto the iphone dev team website, you don't get full instructions and have to search through forums to figure out what went wrong. Why don't they provide a nice pdf with step by step instructions? On top of that, you have to download "repos". What the heck is a repo? Why not call it software or version upgrade. It seems like all the background research to do a jailbreak takes too much time, and there no good source of info, not to mention you have to download the files through bit torrent, another untrustworthy way to get any software.

All I'm saying is get organized, give good instructions, and host your own downloads and people will spend the time. Apple made their software downloads easy all in the app store, which has a good short description, 5 screen shots, and user reviews, which are usually brutally honest.

if you don't like redsn0w, you should try limera1n instead (they use a 1 instead of a 0)


(just trying to be funny)

 

[Jethrotoe]

A few reasons that I won't jailbreak my iPhones going forward:

1) Past experiences - MY past experiences of jailbreaking aren't all that great. Slow down, freezing etc all happening after the jailbreak but never before. I most recently jailbroke my phone a week or so back and only installed 1 application (MyWi - to use with my iPad), but within a few days I had to restore due to my phone slowing down and freezing. Not putting up with that for anything. Factory settings give you a more reliable phone, period.

2) Cat and Mouse game - When Apple release new software, I don't want to wait a few weeks for it to be jailbroken with a nice GUI and then a few weeks more for the early adopters to work out the bugs - and even then I find there are still plenty of application crippling bugs! I like just upgrading when Apple announce the update. I don't want to run around haxxoring my phone...it's a phone, not a PC. If it's not reliable 24/7, then it's failing me as a tool.

3) Software - Reasons to jailbreak are reducing quickly. MyWi is about the only thing that's worth a damn at the moment. The rest of the apps have some great ideas but are poorly designed and implemented. I'll wait for them to be done right or not at all thanks.

Each to their own but those are my 3 main reasons.

Tried it once. Same 3 reasons.

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No jailbraking for me. I like to keep things simple, one of the reasons I switched to Apple.

This is the main reason. I've been around since the TRS-80 Mod 1 and I've hacked and cracked for years. Tired of it. Still have PC's and still try to keep them all under control but my first Apple product was the iPhone and I couldn't get over how well it worked all by itself. Then bought a MBP and an iPad. On the Apple platform I just want them to work well all by themselves with no problems and they do. Keep it simple.

I do however believe in the right to JB and do see most of the benefits so I won't belittle anyone who does it but I leave that stuff to my PC's and let Apple just do it's thing.

 

[qckslvrsiete]

Performance decreases, stability issues, extra battery life drain, no need. Anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves silly. It's also a security issue, as most people install SSH but don't change their password. And most of the code is very unstable and not performance optimized. Jailbreak is like hacking, it's not a viable everyday solution.

I've owned an iPhone 3g since launch day and upgraded to an iPhone 4 the day before launch day (thanks FedEx!). Anyways, I never Jailbroke my phone until I got my iP4 precisely because I used to hear/read things exactly like the post above.

I have no performance issues whatsoever, save a springboard crash once in a long while. And when that happens I just uninstall the last thing I installed in Cydia.

As for battery life, I find it's the same or better as the three or four weeks before I jailbroke the iP4. The reason is as simple as sbsettings. I can now turn wifi, bluetooth and 3g data on/off at the flip of a switch instead of unlocking the phone and scrolling through three or four screens to do so. Same with brightness -- one press of a button and I can adjust the brightness to save battery life.

SSH isn't a reason not to jailbreak if you do your research beforehand. I downloaded OpenSSH just to change my default password and I rarely use it every since. The times I have it's been extremely useful. The bottom line is, if you never install it, there's no security issue anyways. And if you do install it, it takes about 2 minutes and 3 command line prompts to change the password.

The bottom line is Jailbreaking isn't for everyone, but blanket statements such as the one quoted above should be taken with a grain of salt. The only real risk is voiding your warranty, and when done correctly a restore can erase all evidence of a jailbreak that geniuses are required to check for when you take a phone in for service. If you have slightly less than moderate technical ability and are curious about Jailbreaking then go for it, just do your research beforehand.

 

[Dias]

Ok, everybody talks about how good is the iphone with jailbreak but I would like to see the other side of the coin... Those who don't want to jailbreak their iphone... and why not.

Let's hear the other side of the coin... why don you jailbreak your iphone?

I just don't see any reason to do so, I like the way it is. And besides, last time I did, applications and implementation of various functions were quite ugly. I dislike ugliness in software.

 

[Skaffenuk]

I don't need to, as it already does everything I want it to.

 

[qckslvrsiete]

Hahah good point.

But the main problem with jailbreaking is that it's so disorganized. If you goto the iphone dev team website, you don't get full instructions and have to search through forums to figure out what went wrong. Why don't they provide a nice pdf with step by step instructions? On top of that, you have to download "repos". What the heck is a repo? Why not call it software or version upgrade. It seems like all the background research to do a jailbreak takes too much time, and there no good source of info, not to mention you have to download the files through bit torrent, another untrustworthy way to get any software.

All I'm saying is get organized, give good instructions, and host your own downloads and people will spend the time. Apple made their software downloads easy all in the app store, which has a good short description, 5 screen shots, and user reviews, which are usually brutally honest.

The dev team's not making any money off of this, so there's no real point in them making the process any more user friendly than it already is. If it's too hard to figure out how to do it without a nice pdf with step by step instructions, then it's probably too complicated for you. Besides, there's more than enough information to successfully jailbreak your iPhone right here in the forum you're posting in.

As far as the bit torrent thing, I've never used bit torrent to download my jailbreaks. I use the mirror the dev team posts on their website, and then take literally 1 minute to verify the SHA1 hash. No problem at all. Not even inconvenient.

BTW, a repo is a repository. It's basically a place that hosts cydia apps for download. It's definitely not a software version upgrade...

 

[F123D]

I jailbreak to install tweaks and utilities that should've came with the phone in the first place and not install themes. Phone is still smooth and fast with great battery life.

 

[tablo13]

I jailbreaked my iPod touch 4 to tweak and get more functions, SpringBoard rarely crashes (like two times in a month), but recovers when rebooted. The battery seems to drain faster, but I don't have major bugs like randomly rebooting. But Cydia is extremely slow (says "Reloading Data" every time I open it, and have to wait for it) and doesn't support multitasking (guess it can be added with a JB app for multitasking, but don't need that). And SSH definitely isn't for non-technical people.

 

[ugahairydawgs]

If Apple could implement a notification like you get in LockInfo and add in features like you get withSBSettings there would be much less of a need to JB.

 

[ajohnson253]

I used to Jailbreak my Original iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, but not my iPhone 4.

Lately their seems to be less reasons to do so, and to be honest, I got tired of the cat and mouse game that the Dev team and Apple seems to have. Not being able to update my iPhone because I had to wait for the Dev team to say it was OK or to wait for an update from them kind of sucked. Not to mention performance issues.

I did the same thing with my previous iPhones. I feel the same way you do on everything.