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For those who don't like to jailbreak
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I prefer my device to work as it should. Does everything I need it to anyway.
And some of those Winterboard themes are just plain hideous!
And some of those Winterboard themes are just plain hideous!
Spot on. That and (for me) BiteSMS are (now) the only two Cydia apps I have.
I used to run Springboard along with all the bells and whistles usually easily added after that ("Shrink", for example) but found my iPhone was not running as well.
I did a fresh restore and jailbreak with only the above two apps (along with 60 second lock screen and a font app) and that's it! Runs smooth with no issues and now has exactly what I want in a stock iPhone plus that little something extra.
Do you have to restore every time or do you just make a backup before JB then restore from that? I wouldn't mind JB just for tethering, if it is easy to go back to non-JB.
In spite of their past security holes, but due to the larger size of Apple's QA team, I expect the stock OS and App store apps to have less bugs, keyloggers, and other security holes than code downloaded of off some random jb website and/or apps that runs only on jb devices.
I also expect to be able to upgrade to the latest OS releases and test with beta releases sooner/faster with a stock OS device.
I can do 99% of what I want with the device using just the stock OS plus a developer certificate (including compiling and loading any C code I want), the last 1% isn't worth the above disadvantages.
According to stats, almost 50% of jb'ers "steal" copyrighted Paid iOS apps (versus none for stock OS users). As an app developer, why do I want to be a part of that group or give them any moral support whatsoever?
I also expect to be able to upgrade to the latest OS releases and test with beta releases sooner/faster with a stock OS device.
I can do 99% of what I want with the device using just the stock OS plus a developer certificate (including compiling and loading any C code I want), the last 1% isn't worth the above disadvantages.
According to stats, almost 50% of jb'ers "steal" copyrighted Paid iOS apps (versus none for stock OS users). As an app developer, why do I want to be a part of that group or give them any moral support whatsoever?
Who is going to jailbreak today?......
not me...im already jailbroken. i tried running my phone un-jb for 2 weeks and didnt like it. felt too restricted and working around my phone took longer than when it was jb.
i use mywi, bitesms, lockinfo, sbsettings, activator, and folderehancer. all of these lets me quickly get things done.
bitesms - i can send text anywhere on my screen, reply to text without exiting an app.
sbsettings - toggle any control on/off front my status bar (bluetooth, wifi, vibrate, adjust brightness) instead of closing out my apps to get to settings.app then browse around trying to locate that one toggle.
activator - activates whatever i need with gestures in any apps
folderenhancer - i can keep my springboard nice and tidy. able to put more than 12 apps in each folder, i can put folders in folders.
lockinfo - display all my upcoming events on my lockscreen instead of opening up my cal.app.
mywi - obviously for tethering. i DJ and a photographer. so when im at a gig - people request for songs and if i dont have it, i can log into my DJ source to grab the song needed. i can transfer files wirelessly during a photoshoot.
this is how i use my jb apps. others may find use of them differently, but it helps me get things done quickly.
like others have mentioned, jbing is not for everyone. for people that complain about decrease stability, battery drain and security, you're probably installing things without researching. it is impossible to brick your phone. i dont use SSH - i use iphonebrowser/iphone explorer so security is not a problem for me at all.
are you able to provide that 'stat'?
i paid for all my apps from the appstore and in cydia.
Analytics from developers whose apps "phone home" about whether their app and/or the OS has been modified. If anything, these amounts are underreported, as the phone home code can be removed in a "modified" app.
I trust their stats more than I trust you.
I have a lot of tweaks, winterboard and Cydia Apps installed and my IP4 is very stable and never crashes. I am not sure why but recently the battery life is better than ever before including when it was non-JB. The only thing I recall changing recently is uninstalling MyWi and reinstalling the newer version and suddenly the battery life got better. I really enjoy my JB IP4 and would not go back. I don't use installous and I think neither do the vast majority.
The thread's title should read:
"For those who don't like to jailbreak"
Proper English is the way to go.
"For those who don't like to jailbreak"
Proper English is the way to go.
Who is going to jailbreak today?......
Not me. Enjoy your 3 minute text tones while I customize my own.
It was part of a talk that Pinch Media (now part of Flurry?) gave at a developer's meeting. Don't know if they have that data online. (And a game developer sitting near me said his percentages for "modified" apps reporting high scores to him were a lot higher than what Pinch was reporting.)
Where do you get the evidence from for your contrary opinion? How large a statistical sample set? Smaller or larger than Pinch analytic's reporting base?
The minute I can no longer jailbreak is the minute I stop owning the iOS platform. Been here from the beginning of the 1.0.1 days when it took 45 steps to jailbreak. I like 100% complete control over my phone and I go in well knowing the risks of that. I've had to restore a few times from bad installs overs the years but well worth it.
I won't list my 50+ tweaks but without them, this phone wouldn't be the same. To me, the jailbroken version of my phone is what makes it an iPhone to me, the bare stock version is another device in my mind. If apple found a way to shut it down forever, I'd go Android and root my phone, if they shut that down, I'd probably go back to a flip POS phone.
Edit: I'd also like to add that theming and plist edits, and playing with files through SSH is half the phone. As a geek, I find ways a few times a week to customize my phone to my liking.
Edit #2: In the 3.5+ years of jailbreaking, I lose patience over waiting for a jailbreak when a new firmware is released but 4.2.1 for some reason doesn't entice me at all. There are zero things I care about in that firmware.
I won't list my 50+ tweaks but without them, this phone wouldn't be the same. To me, the jailbroken version of my phone is what makes it an iPhone to me, the bare stock version is another device in my mind. If apple found a way to shut it down forever, I'd go Android and root my phone, if they shut that down, I'd probably go back to a flip POS phone.
Edit: I'd also like to add that theming and plist edits, and playing with files through SSH is half the phone. As a geek, I find ways a few times a week to customize my phone to my liking.
Edit #2: In the 3.5+ years of jailbreaking, I lose patience over waiting for a jailbreak when a new firmware is released but 4.2.1 for some reason doesn't entice me at all. There are zero things I care about in that firmware.
Damn straight, JB is a must. LOVE my JB iPhone 4. Facetime over 3G.. MyWi so my wifi iPad can get online anywhere... amazing themes and lockscreens.. my "live" moving aquarium background can't be beaten.. clear folders.. 5 docked icons.. mxTube... MewSeek... the list goes on and on and on. Those who aren't Jailbroken are missing out on a whole lot.
I am jailbroken and I have ocasionally thought about losing the jb so my ipod would run faster and i could update hwnever I wanted but I also decide that there are to many things that I would lose from cydia that I just take for granted now and would be hard to live without.