The only people I've seen who like iOS 7 only use terms such as "modern" and "better" without any reasons. I have a pile of specific usability problems that get on my nerves all the time. Not just the interface, but the design of some of the new features. Ah well, some people will love anything new for modernity sake.
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Former iOS Chief Scott Forstall Surfaces After Quiet Year of Traveling and Philanthropy
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The only people I've seen who like iOS 7 only use terms such as "modern" and "better" without any reasons. I have a pile of specific usability problems that get on my nerves all the time. Not just the interface, but the design of some of the new features. Ah well, some people will love anything new for modernity sake.
Nope. Never.
Ive is on the right track with iOS 7. It's lightyears ahead of every other mobile OS in terms of UI, ease-of-use and of course raw performance.
His contributions to Apple were huge. Rumor has it, he became combative, disruptive within the executive staff during and after Jobs' passing. To keep the harmony on that team, Cook let him go.
Opinions, opinions. Since when is iOS 7 a fiasco? Heck, the Maps "fiasco" showed that other map companies weren't perfect either. I remember an ad from Nokia trying to make fun of Apple maps that shows incorrect information. Same for GMaps.
http://m.cnet.com/news/oops!-anti-apple-maps-ad-reveals-google-maps-own-failing/57521783
Can't find a link about Nokia. :/
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This x 1,000. I miss the skuemorphism days. No buttons + all text = what do I press?
you forgot "Buzz" before lightyears.
Your posts usually remind me Red Army marketing on DDR walls. Quite one-sided opinions
Looking back, as much as I did not like the fake leather in Find My Friends and the green felt in Game Center, his ousting does feel to have been a little harsh.
There were stories that made this site regarding how bad it got, on a personal level. Mansfield simply did not like Forstall and refused to be in the same room with him during exec meetings (and probably why better collaboration is noted in this story). Forstall was also known to take credit when things went right, and deflect onto others when things went bad. But that was just one side of the story. It would be interesting to hear his side.
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Wow. I had no idea so many people on MacRumors hated iOS 7.
I think it's a perfectly useable OS and much better than iOS 6 design-wise.
I think it's a perfectly useable OS and much better than iOS 6 design-wise.
"He also reportedly spent time-traveling" wow, they absolutely needed to keep him # hashtag innovation and stuff
I like my phone a little less now
lolI just got my parents a couple of iPad Airs as a present. This is going to be their first iOS device, and they do not have a smart phone.
I feel bad not having got them one years earlier, because some skeumorphism would have been useful to get them into the feel of things. Now, it will probably be a lot of random clicking at text hoping it is a button, and some frustration. Hope it goes well.
Come back! All is forgiven! Hurry, before Jony Ive flattens everything to the thickness of a piece of rice paper.
I know that there was an aura of anti-skeuomorphism floating around for a while there while everyone was excited about an iOS redesign, but iOS 7 really made me realize how much skeuomorphism was a good thing in iOS. It made the phone feel like home and made it feel familiar. You open any app and you immediately knew how to use it. It was an empowering feeling when I first used iOS for the first time (with the first iPod touch), the feeling of just *knowing* how to do everything.
5+ years later of using it and a redesign comes out and I've never been more confused and annoyed. Who seriously thought that white backgrounds and thin text was a good design and a good replacement for the familiarity that skeuomorphism offered? Forstall may have let the popularity get to his head (from what I heard) but ousting him was a huge mistake and totally undeserved. Apple lost the one person in the company with the most experience with iPhone UI and replaced him with somebody who hasn't touched software in his life, and the results show it. Ive is a master of hardware design but he has no idea what he's doing with software design, and iOS7 may look pretty on paper but usability has suffered badly. Say what you want about skeuomorphism, but it was just better than what we have now. For me, I'm just sad that a brilliant company like Apple allowed 6 years of engineering go to waste and be replaced by, frankly, amateur-hour-grade software design and programming.
5+ years later of using it and a redesign comes out and I've never been more confused and annoyed. Who seriously thought that white backgrounds and thin text was a good design and a good replacement for the familiarity that skeuomorphism offered? Forstall may have let the popularity get to his head (from what I heard) but ousting him was a huge mistake and totally undeserved. Apple lost the one person in the company with the most experience with iPhone UI and replaced him with somebody who hasn't touched software in his life, and the results show it. Ive is a master of hardware design but he has no idea what he's doing with software design, and iOS7 may look pretty on paper but usability has suffered badly. Say what you want about skeuomorphism, but it was just better than what we have now. For me, I'm just sad that a brilliant company like Apple allowed 6 years of engineering go to waste and be replaced by, frankly, amateur-hour-grade software design and programming.
There seems to be quite a bit of negative groupthink going on here. The majority of iOS users are quite happy with iOS 7. Maps, on the other hand, was indeed a fiasco, and the person responsible for delivering refused to take responsibility.
Yes. He walked around thinking his crap didn't stink. Massive ego and couldn't even be in the same room with other execs without Cook being there. Mansfield was leaving because of him. He felt protected when Steve was alive, but lost that protection when he died.
Of course there is, do a little searching and you'll find more to the story. He was "maddeningly political and bureaucratic" and was trying to take power from Tim Cook and eventually become the CEO.
He is an absolute genius, and the one responsible for the current desktop-class smartphone revolution and turning the smartphone into the major computing platform of the future. But without Steve there to keep him in line, he was ultimately more toxic to Apple than he was an asset.
I really don't think that maddeningly political environment is helpful to Apple at all, they are the one large company that has managed to stay free of bureaucratic crap like that.
And let's not forget that Forstall DID let iOS get a tad stale under his watch. iOS 3-6 were mainly updates picking at the "low-hanging fruit." Whether you like iOS 7 or not, it's certainly the most excitement the platform has had since 2. Not just from the UI redesign, but there's some incredibly powerful new technology and APIs in 7.
I always wondered what he'd been up to. Good luck to him.
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I would be on Android now if I were him.
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I would be on Android now if I were him.
Frankly, I have no problems with iOS7. Usability is just fine, some of the new features are fun to have, and I prefer the look and feel. YMMV, of course, but not everyone thinks it's a bad direction.