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Fortnite:
- 3+ years old
- 125k viewers on Twitch right now

Ended Ring:
- 3 months old
- 46k viewers on Twitch

Very different games, but if you make a silly claim, expect a silly response.
Fortnite has 3 million active players.
Grand prize for one of their tournaments was $3 million!

Elden Ring is a great game, but the kids and adults alike still like Fortnite. They keep releasing new content with seasons, and other tie-ins (Spiderman stuff, I guess collaborating with the Spiderman: No Way Home film?).

All that said, I'm enjoying gaming on Apple Arcade! :)
 
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I'm pretty sure latency, which is the main complaint about cloud gaming, will be resolved by the time Sony and Microsoft decided to go full cloud.
Uh, that's a difficult problem to solve - you either need vanishingly small ping times, or software that predicts what your likely move is and does that for you. Sony and Microsoft both offer some cloud-based gaming now. I don't see them going cloud-only for a very long time.
 
moved on to what?
This can actually be interpreted in multiple ways. In my kids' cases: to home-built Windows based gaming PCs. I had initially purchased iPads for two of them as that seemed to me to be the cheapest point of entry for playing Fortnite at the time which still offered a decent gaming experience. The bill for the new gaming PCs that replaced them was much higher, which irks me quite a bit; we don't spend our money on Fortnite's in-game crap, anymore. Epic's scummy lawsuit has burned bridges with quite a few Apple customers -- even with those who sought out other ways to play.

(As an aside: personally I was playing on my Mac, so I just shifted over to Bootcamp for Fortnite -- but I've stopped playing it entirely at this point. I'm spending my gaming time in Minecraft instead, as are my kids to a large degree. So yeah... some of us actually have moved on.)
 
Doing some good doesn’t excuse them trying to destroy tens of thousands of small businesses that want to sell games and apps. You aren’t on the receiving end of their plans so you like many others can just play games and have fun. Though I’ll add, just because the company is bad, if you enjoy the game then play it without a second thought. Many fantastic things are created by rather nasty people.
Excuse my ignorance, but how did Epic destroy tens of thousands of small business that want to sell games and apps?
 
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Elden Ring is a great game, but the kids and adults alike still like Fortnite. They keep releasing new content with seasons, and other tie-ins (Spiderman stuff, I guess collaborating with the Spiderman: No Way Home film?).
Yep, and now it's Dr. Strange during the release of that film.
 
Just tried it and it worked extremely well. I think MS has upgraded some of their streaming tech in recent months. Smoothest cloud gaming experience I’ve had so far.
I believe they upgraded their hardware from Xbox One Xs to Xbox Series Xs.
 
Elden Ring is a great game, but the kids and adults alike still like Fortnite. They keep releasing new content with seasons, and other tie-ins (Spiderman stuff, I guess collaborating with the Spiderman: No Way Home film?).

Yeah exactly. Fortnite has peaked, I think, but it’s not going anywhere for a long, long time, despite what people here say — as if iOS was the only thing keeping that sinking ship afloat.
 
Apple dropped the ball when it came to gaming. They wanted to compete with Apple Arcade but lets be real here. Once Cloud Gaming becomes the norm and you have access to all your console games anywhere at anytime, would anyone want Apple arcade? Imagine Nintendo also joining the cloud gaming market? Mario on any device.
 
Who wants to play real games when you got amazing AAAAAAAAAA titles like Flappy Bird+ and Sneaky Sasquatch in Apple Arcade? Sony and Microsoft should just give it up now and file for bankruptcy, they can’t possibly compete with these amazing Timmy approved titles!
 
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I think Cloud gaming is mostly a resource to use in case the local device does not have enough computing horsepower.

I would love to see Nintendo games on iOS. Their games seem to share Apple ethos at many levels. Has an Apple devices supporter, if Apple partnered with Nintendo and bring the Nintendo Store to iOS ... ouch.
 
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I used xcloud for a while but it was too laggy to be enjoyable unfortunately.

Might try it again if this improves in my area.
Side Question : Is a nintendo switch a fun gaming experience?
I play it on the switch. While it’s not the best experience, being able to play it on a hand-held device makes up for the lack of resolution (540p-720p, although the screens size makes up for this), and it’s low frame rate (30fps).

However I must add that I play for fun, not in a competitive manner. The switch controls are no where near to an Xbox/PS gamepad, though it’s still eons better than touch mode.

All in all, the Switch is fascinating for me when on the run (commutes, breaks at work, or even at a hotel/friends place), battery life is great and there are many more games that can be played.

If you want the 4K60fps or even more, just play it on the XSX, PS5 or on a PC.
 
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I have gigabit fiber now up and down, with 0-1ms of ping. Xcloud is still too laggy to play a lot of games such as platformers, much less a first person shooter like Fortnite.
 
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Apple dropped the ball when it came to gaming. They wanted to compete with Apple Arcade but lets be real here. Once Cloud Gaming becomes the norm and you have access to all your console games anywhere at anytime, would anyone want Apple arcade? Imagine Nintendo also joining the cloud gaming market? Mario on any device.
I agree, although I will say if Nintendo joins the cloud gaming race, it'll be in dead last. Nintendo still hasn't figured out how to make online gaming enjoyable without hiccups with their first-party games. Believe me, I'm a diehard Nintendo fan (born and raised), it's just pathetic how bad the online experience is in their most high-profile games.

Edit: Let me add that Microsoft and Google have the advantage of already having cloud infrastructure. If Nintendo were to do this, they would likely have to rely on "The Big 3" (Google, Microsoft, Amazon) for infrastructure, so maybe it wouldn't be as bad as I first thought.
 
MS cloud works great on my MBP. I’ve been playing through Halo Infinite l. I will say the experience is better in Edge than Safari though.
 
I hope this takes off, it would be nice to see the web win over locked down platforms
I have a Series X and almost always play on the Xcloud now. It’s seriously easy and convenient which to me say it will catch on.
 
Love the tens of millions Epic has lost because of their lawsuit. This won't make much of a dent at all. The iOS players moved on :)

Just think if you were a CEO of a company and something like that happened to you ? Would awesome wouldn't it huh ?
 
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This sounds so inefficient, wasting tons of data to run a game on a remote system when you can just run it on your device.

It's just downright insulting to my computer nerd brain.
And opposed to watching insta pictures of xxxx (whatever we follow) or YouTube videos of kittens in 4K or just “playing. It is a waste of lifetime, not only of bytes.
But at the same time, what else do we do with all those hundreds of Mbps at home?. Work?, backups of the backups of the backups of photos and data?.
Maybe a powerful CPU on a phone is a waste and f Hertz, when computing could be be done at serious level “in the cloud”. MuchoDeeper question than it seemed.
 
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