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Fortnite for iOS and macOS Will No Longer Be Cross-Platform When New Season Launches
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because it’s not just Epic. When iOS devices cannot have Epic games, xBox or Stadia people will eventually speak with their wallets. Of course if Candy Crush is your bag, you’ll be fine.
I don’t think it’ll have a big impact on phones but gaming / streaming on an iPad is a bigger deal
This is Epic having an epic toddler tantrum.
We won't have Apple taking a 30% cut on Fortnite IAP so let's cut ourselves off from the remaining 70% in the market where consumers spend the most money.
Shareholders: time to sell Epic stock. LMAO!
We won't have Apple taking a 30% cut on Fortnite IAP so let's cut ourselves off from the remaining 70% in the market where consumers spend the most money.
Shareholders: time to sell Epic stock. LMAO!
lol at Epic thinking that holding back the Mac app somehow increases their leverage.
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Isn't Apple's focus really on Arcade anyways? More indie and ad-free quality games.
There's like 10 of you patting yourselves on the back here lol.
And yet they'll point the finger at Apple. As if they couldn't continue to provide support for iOS users immediately by simply removing their deliberately invalid update. By making these mobile players suffer, they'll be upset, and Epic is standing there trying to make out like their hands are tied and Apple is holding the game hostage, when the exact opposite is true. I'm not invested in this fight - beyond holding Apple stock - but this behavior still makes me feel icky (to use the technical term).
While I am not a dev that statement seems false based on this link:
Download Unreal Engine
Follow these steps to download and install Unreal Engine.
Licensing for unreal engine is not free to game devs and seems to only be free for small, non-game, indie devs creating 3d or free content.
This is what some people seem to forget. The WordPress iOS issue was only solved because they got caught, plain and simple.
It doesn’t, but why should Apple continue to develop for a platform that might be banned in the near future? Epic can cut off Apple like Apple seems to cut off Microsoft and Google from their gaming platforms.
While I am not a dev that statement seems false based on this link:
Download Unreal Engine
Follow these steps to download and install Unreal Engine.www.unrealengine.com
Licensing for unreal engine is not free to game devs and seems to only be free for small, non-game, indie devs creating 3d or free content.
yes it is. it is free to a certain threshold which most unreal engine users fall under and even after that is less than 30% of your earnings.
This is crazy. Most of us agree that Apple can be very particular in their opinions and someone could make a good case for or against the app store. But what in the world is Epic trying to do. This PROVES that iOS (and MacOS) is not a monopoly as it pertains to Fortnite. This is simply Epic not liking Apple's terms and conditions and so they are not going to develop Fortnite on the Mac. No big deal, there are a lot of Apps not on the App store.
"Judge, iOS is a Monopoly, there is NO OTHER way for us to sell games so um we decided to sell games on 4 or 5 other platforms and stores. But yeah, monopoly!"
"Judge, iOS is a Monopoly, there is NO OTHER way for us to sell games so um we decided to sell games on 4 or 5 other platforms and stores. But yeah, monopoly!"
While I am not a dev that statement seems false based on this link:
Download Unreal Engine
Follow these steps to download and install Unreal Engine.
Licensing for unreal engine is not free to game devs and seems to only be free for small, non-game, indie devs creating 3d or free content.
Unreal Engine | Commercial Game Deployment Guidelines
Unreal Engine is the world’s most open and advanced real-time 3D creation platform for photoreal visuals and immersive experiences.
What about the android version? Is it being updated? Maybe they are only updating the side loaded version and not the google play version. Why is it that all the news on this seems to be about iOS and not about google and the play store?
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I'm not sure how Epic Games digging a deeper hole helps them.
Who will flinch? I doubt that it will be Apple.
I still don't agree with the 30% but if Epic Games doesn't mind it on Xbox and Playstation, why is it so difficult on iOS that they're willing to pay 0% of $0.00?
Who will flinch? I doubt that it will be Apple.
I still don't agree with the 30% but if Epic Games doesn't mind it on Xbox and Playstation, why is it so difficult on iOS that they're willing to pay 0% of $0.00?
Call of Duty has more effect on the real world for adults. Fortnite mostly affects kids.
No, it was 30% from the beginning. They were cheered when they announced this because it was well below the roughly 50% that developers were accustomed to paying retail outlets for distribution. Nobody here seems to remember that, though.
Edit: And apparently no one recalls how desperate many developers were to get access to the iOS platform. Now they seem to see it as some kind of right.
You can get the Android version through sideloading and the Samsung App Store. While sideloading is not 100% safe for some APKs, Google still allows it on their mobile OS for apps that do not want to go through Google Play.
Apple doesn’t allow installs of any kind outside the App Store.
Does anybody know if users have the right to ask for their money back from Apple/Epic? Or if users can launch a class-action suit against them. Apple/Epic collected funds to provide a service based on the rules at the time of purchase. Epic decided to break the rules with complete disregard to the consequences to the paid users. Further to this, a judge has already determined this is self imposed by Epic and can be easily be remedied by reinstating the status quo until the matter is settled. I have no problem with Epic wanting to stand their ground, but they should give all iOS users their money back on all purchases since the users are the ones suffering the consequences of Epic's decisions and actions without having any say in the matter. By not allowing purchasers to get their money back, it is setting a precedence that any developer can collect a ton of money, break the rules and stop or hamper the promised service they were supposed to provide.
That’s not really true. Or at least not very different than what Apple does. Unreal charges devs off the gross once they make over a certain amount of profit.
You better believe Epic would come after a company making as much money as Fortnite does/did on iOS if they stopped paying. Aside from the $99 developer fee, Apple doesn’t get any money from Fornite (a freemium app) unless a user makes an in-app purchase. So, yes, the rate structures are different but Epic is hypocritically trying to get something for nothing here.
Unlike Apple, Google doesn't have overbearing control of your device to disrupt apps and services since they provide a way to side load apps. For the case of Fortnite side loaded app it will continue to be updated and purchases made direct from Epic. Only thing you're giving up is the convenience of Google Play Store. Similar to paying by cash without fee or credit with reasonable fee analogy at gas stations.
That would be an interesting wrinkle. I’m not a lawyer, so I have no idea if that would work, but I’m guessing by the same justification you just made, Apple could excuse itself very easily. Epic might be stuck though—depends on the TOS. Kinda hope someone does this. . .
That's why Epic Games for the first time ever makes you able to keep playing on an older version of the game (on ios/macos) when the new Season drops.
You could however sue Epic for damages done due to their Epic Direct Payment system bypassing parental controls on payments if your kid spent all your money even thought you had parental controls on.
And your data ... for free ... so a bunch of 1%ers can get even richer off of you ... have a nice day.
Absolutely. Many of Epic's public statements on the matter are going to come back to haunt them in court.