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'Foundation' Showrunner Hopes for Unparalleled 80 Episodes on Apple TV+
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Definitely.
(Not sure which series you're referring to. The Mandalorian, perhaps? Star Trek only has a single clip show in the entire franchise, and yep, it wasn't particularly popular.)
Incidentally, I thought the clip shows in Stargate worked OK.
Sounds like exile to me.
To complain about it being described as exile when it is specially described as such, seems odd.
Again, having worked on enough projects to know that I mostly ignore what people say until I see the final result, I will once again ignore what people say and wait to see the final results.
I have no idea whether they are basing their show on the universe as conceived in the trilogy, or as expanded and substantially changed by the later books. I do guarantee that the story needs to change somewhat just to deal with technology as it exists now, vs. what Asimov described based on his vision from when the books were written.
Nothing wrong with "bottle episodes" if they're well written - if it's important character development then it isn't "padding", but Trek had a nasty habit of not following through with character development beyond the end of the episode. (e.g. Inner Light is a much loved episode, but Picard barely mentions that experience again... meanwhile getting drunk and having a fist fight with your brother is apparently enough to cure the trauma of being assimilated - or at least bury it for six seasons and a movie...) - but, to be fair, when the network wants to be able to air the episodes in random order, what can they do?
Anyway, the only one of those with a plot arc was DS9 which maybe did better on the character development because it had a plot arc (and, perhaps, maybe had its eye on Babylon 5 which had epic character development arcs for characters like Londo, G'kar and Garibaldi...). Even then... two words: Vic. Fontaine.
As for newer Trek that's just plain bad writing and mistaking sobbing and whispering for character development - Something like The Expanse fits in a huge amount of character development with 10 episodes a season (maybe a bit too much in the last season). Heck, the Netflix Lost in Space remake has better character development than Discovery... (meow!)
Yeah, I don't think TNG was that great at character development. (DS9, OTOH…)
But it didn't, at first, and while the stories weren't as compelling, the characters still were.
What about him?
I agree that The Expanse works better, but 25 years later, I'm still a little sad we didn't get more stories of Garak, Nog, Keiko, etc. I somehow can't see myself thinking that about The Expanse in the future. Those characters serve the plot; they don't particularly stand on their own.
Most series from the 1970’s, 1980’s, 1990’s and 2000’s with long story arcs had one clip show a season. Not talking about any of them in particular.
They did a great job with most of them, but even there, if one had seen the whole show, the clip shows were mostly superfluous. They usually added more story overlay and made them feel more consequential (most clip shows are the characters ”reminiscing”, where in Stargate: SG1 there was usually a plot point (like trying to shut down the program or trying to figure out what had happened. The almost-clip show 200 was one of the funniest episodes they ever did (love the dig at Farscape in it).
Actually, Star Wars was pretty closely connected to Akira Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress.
Agreed. In today's world, with shorter seasons, they could've cut those and not removed much.
Honestly, I wasn't into 200 or its prequel.
Well, you might have to wait 25 years to see the last 3 books of The Expanse on the screen
Hard to do long plot arcs in a series with so much “magic” technology. Sometimes the transporter can go only go to the transporter room, sometimes right from somewhere off the ship to somewhere on the ship, sometimes through shields, sometimes not. The only constraint is what the writers need to solve some small block they have at the moment.
Sometimes the transporter can go only go to the transporter room, sometimes right from somewhere off the ship to somewhere on the ship, sometimes through shields, sometimes not. The only constraint is what the writers need to solve some small block they have at the moment.
Did not love the earlier episode, but 200 was a great ”inside baseball episode”. Added nothing to the show as a whole, just really fun for insiders (especially anyone who has ever had to sit through a pitch meeting or in a writers’ room for story development).
@svanstrom Had never seen/heard that song, but it is awesome. Constraints make writing better. What makes Ted Lasso so good as a show is that they writers almost always take the choice that is harder to write and the result is magical.
Constraints make writing better. What makes Ted Lasso so good as a show is that they writers almost always take the choice that is harder to write and the result is magical.
Then please let us know all the TV series, book and movies you want to watch but haven't got around to yet so we can message you and tell you all the endings, apparently that won't spoil it for you, good to know.
Or story, or consistency, or a few other things.
It did have some of the best characters.
Garak was one of my favorite characters and has some of the best lines. One of my favorites was:
I like Quark for similar reasons. Both are flawed and so much more interesting. Nog’s character gets much more interesting over the series. I never saw enough of Keiko to care much.
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Star Trek: Discovery’s problem is simply that every character in the show is more interesting than Michael Burnham. Oh, and the last two episodes of the first season either needed to be 5 or 10, or just different.
I think we all agree when i say that apple is not mature enough to cover such a story on its very young streaming service - that would be better at a mature service like Netflix or HBO!
Nope, do not agree with that at all. HBO did a terrible job with Game of Thrones (despite a good start). I am not sure what Netflix has done that is at the same level as this project. Who knows whether this will be good or bad, but Apple has certainly demonstrated they are willing to spend the money needed and their production values are on par with or exceed anything HBO has done (both See and For All Mankind are visually impressive, even if some did not enjoy the stories).
Hard to believe it has been almost 70 years since i first read the 3 books (in my view the only ones they should be filming)
Anyway, a lot of the greatness is not knowing the end. So let’s keep it to a minimum for those who never had the joy of reading the Foundation series.
BTW, i loved the Dune book, detested the movie. Let’s pray they don’t make the same mistakes.
I certainly think some of the Empire stories would be interesting, and, as I said the 3 Robot books would work well.
Having read them in release order, I always wondered if they would work in chronological order. As has been said, I did not like the last one, but there are some interesting ideas in the other ones.
They have already done better by making it a series, rather than trying to do it as a single film. Dune is a giant universe and is like 100,000 pages for just the first book.
I do not understand how anyone can try to do it as a single film that make me curious how the Timothée Chalamet version comes out.