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maybe dif. RAM sizes, teardown is the 8GB ver

just maybe since the Touch they teared down was the 8GB model, maybe the higher configurations contain bigger RAM...:rolleyes: when I saw that there was just space for one slot my mind went straight into 256RAM max....
 
I'm starting to think that I should just give up hoping that Apple will ever produce a single product that matches the technology and reality of the age.

You what?

I simply can't even begin to bother retorting to this statement. You must be a twelve year old. Apple have been and the forefront of consumer tech . . . . . . No I actually can't be bothered.

Go read some tech spec bumf from toshiba.

I'll sell you a toothbrush with 1GB of RAM. No other toothbrush has anywhere near that kind of computing power yet, you'll be way ahead of the game.
 
It just keeps getting worse! Crappy camera, non IPS display, half the ram of iPhone 4.

Simple... Do not purchase the thing.


Are you in high school? Just wondering. My 7 year old understands the difference and appreciates the improvements.
 
Wrong -- iOS apps can use more than 32mb of RAM. On the 128MB iPhones and iPod touches, there was only about 30MB (actually a little less) available. On the 3GS, the OS didn't take up much more space, so apps could now expand into about 150MB or so. iOS 4 introduced multitasking, but apps in the background can still be closed if the OS or the foreground application need more RAM. Therefore, there is still a lot of RAM available to apps , even under iOS 4.

On the iPhone 4, there should be even more RAM available. If this rumor is true (I have some doubts given the lack of RAM on the iPad and the 4x pixels of the retina display -- waiting to hear results from a developer first), then there won't be many apps released soon that will take advantage of the extra RAM, since only the iPhone 4 will be able to support it (for now). But as time goes on and the 256MB iOS devices are replaced with 512MB and higher, there will be apps that use that extra space.

Not necessarily, more RAM isn't always significantly better. Apple does multi-tasking by suspending apps into storage not RAM. That way you can have an endless amont of open apps because they are not in active memory. Active memory in the iPhone 4 would be for making sure messages and phone calls don't get bogged down.
 
Most people were presuming the new ipod touch would come with 512MB like the new iphone so it could handle the new hires screen, HD video and run iMovie etc that came on both devices.

However it now seems the ipod only got half the memory of the iphone? If a decision was made to increase the memory on the iphone 4 to 512MB, presumably so users could work with HD video amongst other things, why does the ipod touch not need the extra memory as well?

They both have the same cpu, screen resolution, hd video and imovie support so why does one device need twice as much memory as the other?
 
People!

Here's the deal w/ the RAM. It's not about whether it can run any particular app or game in 2010.

It's about the fact that we want these devices to LAST!!![/B


Well, there's a difference between what you WANT and reality. In reality, Apple wants you to buy a new device every year. You're obviously not rich and/or thinking different enough. I bet you don't even have any black turtleneck sweaters.
 
Back in the 'naughties' I had a DV camera that would shoot SD video (720x480) and take stills at 1.3 MP. I don't know the relation between video resolution and still photo resoltion for a given CCD (if there's any; I bet it's more complicated). Maybe the new iPod Touch shoots HD video of lower image quality than the iPhone 4. Waiting for a report...

Generally SD sensors in decent dv cameras were bigger than 720x480 so that they could do image stabilization on the sensor, as the image moves around the sensor the frame moves around following it cropping a stable image.
 
I'm starting to think that I should just give up hoping that Apple will ever produce a single product that matches the technology and reality of the age.

From a marketing standpoint, it would not be in their best interest for convergence. I would love it to be uniform but it won't happen.

Besides, that means we get at least 3 iOS events per year to speculate prior to and then tear apart after. Hahaha.
 
That's apple...nothing new!!!

At least you CAN'T say "You get what you pay for!" :D
 
black turtlenecks

Well, there's a difference between what you WANT and reality. In reality, Apple wants you to buy a new device every year. You're obviously not rich and/or thinking different enough. I bet you don't even have any black turtleneck sweaters.

I'm not here to hate on Jobs, but his LOOK needs an update even more than the MacBook Air.

I was going to get an iPod Touch, but the crap camera and weak specs mean I'll just wait for the next iPad instead.

FaceTime freaks me out. :p:p:p:p:p
 
Most people were presuming the new ipod touch would come with 512MB like the new iphone so it could handle the new hires screen, HD video and run iMovie etc that came on both devices.

However it now seems the ipod only got half the memory of the iphone? If a decision was made to increase the memory on the iphone 4 to 512MB, presumably so users could work with HD video amongst other things, why does the ipod touch not need the extra memory as well?

They both have the same cpu, screen resolution, hd video and imovie support so why does one device need twice as much memory as the other?

It was a false assumption people made.

And now we have confirmed iPod Touch has 256mb of ram, we can finally dispel the myth that the reason iMovie is not available on the iPad was because it had 256mb of ram, and finally come to terms with the truth that it was most likely simply because it has no video camera and therefore Apple see no reason on releasing video editing software for it at this stage.

:)
 
WTF apple...

I am sick and tired of these manipulations! Why only 256 MB RAM? I was willing to pay $500 but please add all premium components and make a configurable device, at least for me! :cool:
 
Please, somebody give us a realistic price for having an acceptable camera and 512MB RAM in the iPod Touch.

But of course, then some people wouldn't have to bend over for AT&T and other networks abroad to get an excessively priced iPhone 4 as the Touch would be a fantastic deal.

So what should I get instead of my ageing (my second one is only 11 months old) and officially outdated iPhone 3G, which by the way I stopped using for phone calls, since the battery life is poor?

1.) An iPhone 4 with cracking monkey glass, dropping calls, stupid rubber band that needs cooking to fit and the embarrassment as people just push your nose into the crap of buying a FAIL phone...

OR

2.) an iPod Touch with the same amount of RAM as the previous version (16GB, 32GB) and with the still picture quality of a six years old phone?

Hmmm... it is a very difficult decision. I'm starting to think that I should just give up hoping that Apple will ever produce a single product that matches the technology and reality of the age.

Once again you probably don't have any apple products. The Iphone 4 is good and has no issues. If you have a bad bumper return it. If you have a bad iphone 4 return it. Apple has a really good return policy and a good warranty.

The Ipod is not an Iphone and is not an Ipad. All are different and all are good. If you don't like it don't get it.

By the way there is nothing else on the market like the Ipod 4g....the Zune don't count...

256mb of ram is enough...ask any Ipad users. The issues that the Ipad have is with iOS 3.2...when it gets iOS 4.2...the world with change and it will be magical!
 
On the bright side, does this mean Touch users get a 1GHz A4 with 256mb RAM (iPad spec) chip vs. the iPhone's underclocked A4 ~800MHz with 512mb of RAM ?


I'd be pretty silly to make 3 versions of the A4 chip, right? :confused:
 
people on this site are frickin rediculous!!!!

it has a retina display!
720p Vid recorder
Mic
Ipad processor
Facetime
and is thinner


and you wanna whine about the figgin ram????!!!

notice that it has all these improvements yet COSTS the SAME MONEY as BEFORE!!!

omg MORONS!!!!!
 
With a faster processor, quadrupled resolution, two cameras previously nonexistent, wireless N (I no longer need to run my home router in dual band), built in microphone and a complete redesign, I think you're wrong.

By complete redesign, do you mean the backing of the ipod touch? When I looked at it at the Apple Store, it looked and felt exactly like the previous generations. Also the thinness didn't feel that much different. I still held it the same way I had always held an iPod Touch. Yes it's slimmer but everything feels slim these days. I do realize the backing is slightly redesigned to be flat.
 
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