Sorry I was on my iPad.
It has to do with Google not being sure of themselves about Android. So much so that the handset makers have to agree to those terms. Not the end-user.
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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"
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Sorry I was on my iPad.
It has to do with Google not being sure of themselves about Android. So much so that the handset makers have to agree to those terms. Not the end-user.
This could have been done earlier if the iPhone3G/3Gs was sold as unlocked as the iPhone4/4s is being done now.
This is true, but the time scale is different. Its like going from Windows XP to Windows 8 in little over 3 years. Had the Windows OS changed as fast as the Android OS, I don't think OS X would have been as successful. The biggest strike against Android is the bloat ware companies put on devices.
I see a place for both iOS and Android. IMHO, Android is viable for phones since we change them every 2 years or so, for tablets and other devices, we want longer term support and we have that with iOS.
The only Android platform which is viable against iOS is the Nexus series of phones. That is a true unadulterated version of Android and everything else has some sort of bloat ware on it.
As far as SJ's destroying Android. That's already happening since it's not about market share, but about profits. Even with a smaller market share Apple is doing quite well in hardware and software.
This is true, but the time scale is different. Its like going from Windows XP to Windows 8 in little over 3 years. Had the Windows OS changed as fast as the Android OS, I don't think OS X would have been as successful. The biggest strike against Android is the bloat ware companies put on devices.
I see a place for both iOS and Android. IMHO, Android is viable for phones since we change them every 2 years or so, for tablets and other devices, we want longer term support and we have that with iOS.
The only Android platform which is viable against iOS is the Nexus series of phones. That is a true unadulterated version of Android and everything else has some sort of bloat ware on it.
As far as SJ's destroying Android. That's already happening since it's not about market share, but about profits. Even with a smaller market share Apple is doing quite well in hardware and software.
Yap, I only was saying that wasn't "THE gestures" but "SOME gestures"
You still have to inform better. Galaxy Tabs have injuctions not for Android but for trade dress and screen patents.
Still waiting an explanation for why Android is stolen from Linux and Linux is stolen from UNIX
P.S. In English, two things are considered a bunch of things?
Actually Apple was granted access to Xerox's PARC system for a few days in exchange for buying shares of the company.
I do believe that "destroying" in this case meant wiping it off the market. Even if iOS makes more money, Android is still available, and looks to be for the foreseeable future. It's not destroyed.
Android is based off the Linux Kernel. Linus Torvalds "wrote" the Linux Kernel.
If you knew as much about Linus as I do you would know.
That's all I can say. Bash me all you want.
This hate will go on and on and on.
No, it has nothing to do with Google being legally uncertain about Android.
Practically every piece of software has a clause like that in the license, because the company doesn't want to be held liable for what the end-user does with the software.
Christ, look at the iOS EULA. It says practically the same thing. Does that mean Apple is uncertain of iOS?
Android's Liability Clause:
Apple's Liability Clause:
I think Peace is saying that Google won't indemnify any OEMs distributing Android powered hardware from IP infringement cases but has somehow confused that with the user licence agreement.
Because it is impossible to "steal" Linux.
Because UNIX was intended to be a relatively Open and Portable platform. See: POSIX
I never mentioned the EULA. I was referring to the agreement between Google and handset makers . Like I said.
Good night
If Steve Jobs wants to destroy Android starting with me, all he has to do is make a product that I like more than the Android phone and the Android tablet that I have. Then Apple would have my business and not Android. I do think that Apple makes good products, I just happen to like my physical keyboard on my HTC Desire Z more than the touchscreen keyboard on the latest iPhone. I also happen to like the keyboard dock on my Asus Eee Pad Transformer more than the iPad plus any keyboard accessory.
Apple has pushed Google and others to come up with better products. No doubt my Android products were definitely influenced by Apple products. My Android products also have features not available on the Apple products that I really like such as widgets. I challenge Apple to come up with some products that I want more than anything else by the time I am ready to upgrade my phone, tablet and PC. I'm a fan of whatever works best for me and the last time I was in the market for devices, it wasn't something from Apple that works best for me. Channel your anger into making something that will blow my mind and I'll blow my money on it.
Apple has pushed Google and others to come up with better products. No doubt my Android products were definitely influenced by Apple products. My Android products also have features not available on the Apple products that I really like such as widgets. I challenge Apple to come up with some products that I want more than anything else by the time I am ready to upgrade my phone, tablet and PC. I'm a fan of whatever works best for me and the last time I was in the market for devices, it wasn't something from Apple that works best for me. Channel your anger into making something that will blow my mind and I'll blow my money on it.
And exactly what do you know from Linus Torvalds that the rest of the world doesn't know?
And being Google based on Linux kernel means that Google has stolen Linux? Really?
So Jobs stole from BSD because OPENSTEP kernel is based on BSD kernel?
It is coming true... Just look at the $0 iPhone 3GS blowing all the cheap-to-midrange-android-phones out of the water!
I never mentioned the EULA. I was referring to the agreement between Google and handset makers . Like I said.
Good night
Well then, here's the proper clause you are talking about then.
Keywords: "your Product that infringes any copyright, trademark, trade secret, trade dress, patent or other intellectual property right of any person or defames any person or violates their rights of publicity or privacy."
This clause does not exist because Google is legally uncertain about Android. It is there because Google takes no responsibility for "YOUR PRODUCT".
I actually think it is Verizon that pays Lucas for th "Droid" name since they release phones fom several manufacturers branded as "Droid".
As for the rest of this debate, I am going to stay out of this one. Carry on.....
wow...
I'm really looking forward reading this biography... so far it seems it fairly portrays Mr. Jobs as the gifted visionary, talented marketer, megalomaniac workaholic, control freak human being he was.
Wasn't it the same Steve Jobs the one that misquoted Picasso by stating that "Good artists copy; Great artists steal", while rising a pirate flag outside Apple campus and justifying the stealing of ideas from Xerox?
I also would love to know which parts exactly Android copied from iOS... but judging from the frivolous Samsung tablet drama, my guess is that Apple thinks they can claim intellectual ownership of tablets in general, touch screens, finger gestures and every other basic idea.
And finally, as Mr. Cook has repeatedly said lately, ALL cel phones will be smart phones sooner or later, as he acknowledges that there's a rather large segment of consumers that Apple does NOT wish to service due to price restrictions. So... what are those consumers supposed to do, according to Apple? IMO, Apple's strength comes from the hardware-software combination. Android does a good job bringing technology to others that do not want to be part of Apple's universe, which is not by any means perfect from the consumer standpoint. I would guess it's good that consumers that can't afford an iPhone or an iPad - them being the "elite" gadgets - are nevertheless able to use technology.
This Android statement, plus the bit about rejecting surgery at some point is sad... but also very enlightening, as it will continue to help bring closure to those over-ideolizing Mr. Jobs for some reason, and bring him back to the human race.
cheers!
I'm really looking forward reading this biography... so far it seems it fairly portrays Mr. Jobs as the gifted visionary, talented marketer, megalomaniac workaholic, control freak human being he was.
Wasn't it the same Steve Jobs the one that misquoted Picasso by stating that "Good artists copy; Great artists steal", while rising a pirate flag outside Apple campus and justifying the stealing of ideas from Xerox?
I also would love to know which parts exactly Android copied from iOS... but judging from the frivolous Samsung tablet drama, my guess is that Apple thinks they can claim intellectual ownership of tablets in general, touch screens, finger gestures and every other basic idea.
And finally, as Mr. Cook has repeatedly said lately, ALL cel phones will be smart phones sooner or later, as he acknowledges that there's a rather large segment of consumers that Apple does NOT wish to service due to price restrictions. So... what are those consumers supposed to do, according to Apple? IMO, Apple's strength comes from the hardware-software combination. Android does a good job bringing technology to others that do not want to be part of Apple's universe, which is not by any means perfect from the consumer standpoint. I would guess it's good that consumers that can't afford an iPhone or an iPad - them being the "elite" gadgets - are nevertheless able to use technology.
This Android statement, plus the bit about rejecting surgery at some point is sad... but also very enlightening, as it will continue to help bring closure to those over-ideolizing Mr. Jobs for some reason, and bring him back to the human race.
cheers!
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Windows Phone 7 deserves applause for it being an original product!
True story. I was actually kinda surprised by WP7 and, call me crazy, even think it's in some parts more beautiful than iOS. The home screen and animations are a blast to look at. The apps, while looking much more consistent, however aren't as usable and not as polished as Apple's so I'd never willingly switch....
But hey, they did try something entirely new and one can easily applause and respect their effort.
Then don't hold your breath, stick with android. There's no way in hell Apple will release a phone with a physical keyboard (nor should they, it would fly in the face of every single paradigm they built with iOS, and the tiny minority of people who want one doesnt justify it). How many Android phones have physical keyboards? Very very few- the market has voted against it. Nor will you see Google launch one of their official phones with a keyboard. As for your transformer, again, I dont see Apple making a keyboard attachment, nor should they. There's a ton of 3rd party iPad keyboard solutions, and for APple to officially push the keyboard as an input method, when it is non-optimal for most iPad usage, would be ridiculous. Just stating the facts.
This is selfish rubbish that came from Steve. He should've been proud of being an innovator and I see android as a phone who does the same as iPhone but worse....that lacks quality and magic flow iPhone has to its interface. It is normal...iPhone revolutionized...and it is expected other markets would jump in the bandwagon. It's like expecting Ford to have been the only car maker...nonsense. He should have been proud that iPhone is best of the best...
Now must return iPhone 4s because this is the third time I chaed it today lol
Now must return iPhone 4s because this is the third time I chaed it today lol
Sorry, but it seemed, like many great men in history Steve was Steve's own downfall in the end, his personal obsession and reluctance to do certain things, in his products and even with his own life than was his destruction.
I guess it's a mental issue with people who become more powerful/successful in their field. Be that making a phone or running a country. They become obsessed and can't ever accept anything other than their point of view is the right one.
The end result is always the same. They lose.
I guess it's a mental issue with people who become more powerful/successful in their field. Be that making a phone or running a country. They become obsessed and can't ever accept anything other than their point of view is the right one.
The end result is always the same. They lose.
Well it didnt come with a big surprise for me. For Steve apple was like his creation, his mind's best innovative creation, how can he let it go?
I often wonder if I were there and I had so many people stealing from me and bringing so many new models with literally my "features", I would have gone too far, but Steve has patience and cool, he dealt with everything so carefully that even his rivals are now remembering him in Good words!
I often wonder if I were there and I had so many people stealing from me and bringing so many new models with literally my "features", I would have gone too far, but Steve has patience and cool, he dealt with everything so carefully that even his rivals are now remembering him in Good words!
Steve's 'downfall' and 'destruction' was ****ing Cancer. I love how people are now coming up with **** to justify his death. He died from pancreatic cancer. Not his 'personal obsession'.
Just when I thought I had sympathy for Jobs...this comes out
Jobs couldn't do anything about Windows Vs Mac %, I doubt Jobs eradication of Android would happen since they already have the majority of the market.
Jobs couldn't do anything about Windows Vs Mac %, I doubt Jobs eradication of Android would happen since they already have the majority of the market.