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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"

Danny Mac said:
Something tells me this goes all the way back to him feeling Bill Gates stole his OS idea and created Windows. Steve was probably tired of people ripping off his game changing ideas for massive profits.
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Now you know why Apple is so litigious. Everyone else in the industry is perfectly fine with being watered-down and undifferentiated. That's why everyone else in the industry does not achieve what Apple does.

Jobs said that in a meeting with now former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Jobs told Schmidt, "I don't want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

To paraphrase: "I care more about the integrity of my product than about making a buck."

If anything I respect the guy even more after this.
 
Wow. With this type of pathological thinking, I'm surprised he didn't die sooner. Didn't this same man advocate stealing ideas when he was younger? And didn't he steal the idea of the iCloud from Google, as well as the myriad of new iOS 5 features (from the JB community). What about stealing that idea of an app that just displays iAds from that hot girl?

The question arises; how exactly was he going to kill Android? Through the legal system or by producing a better product? Methinks through the legal system.

Anyways, I hope Tim Cook isn't this nuts. Android is not going anywhere. Eradicating Android would be like eradicating the world of all bacteria.
 
*LTD* said:
Now you know why Apple is so litigious. Everyone else in the industry is perfectly fine with being watered-down and undifferentiated. That's why everyone else in the industry does not achieve what Apple does.

Jobs said that in a meeting with now former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Jobs told Schmidt, "I don't want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

To paraphrase: "I care more about the integrity of my product than about making a buck."

If anything I respect the guy even more after this.
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So is this any different than ios using the same messaging look/feel as Android? Everyone copies everyone, and the problem is Apple just gets their pants in a wad when someone does it to them.
 
Piggie said:
Without doubt he'd probably still be alive today if, like any normal rational person he'd had it operated on the moment it was detected and a treatment offered to him.
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Really? Do you know the survival rates of pancreatic cancer? Without a doubt you say? Medicine is being rewritten...
 
toddybody said:
Im happy Android exists. You cant have Jedis without Sith...albeit unresponsive, buggy, and poorly conceived Sith.
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You mean like my iPhone 4s with its color rendering issues? Not nearly as saturated as the 4... You mean the same iOS that hardly allows you to use Siri because the network fails? Give me a break.. Apple has had a huge list of bugs.
 
*LTD* said:
Now you know why Apple is so litigious. Everyone else in the industry is perfectly fine with being watered-down and undifferentiated. That's why everyone else in the industry does not achieve what Apple does.

Jobs said that in a meeting with now former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Jobs told Schmidt, "I don't want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

To paraphrase: "I care more about the integrity of my product than about making a buck."

If anything I respect the guy even more after this.
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I can paraphrase to, "I don't care about the money - I want you gone. I don't want you as a competitor"

See how that works?

Personally I think both OSs learned from each other. You could argue that Android had iOS to learn from first - but Apple certainly borrowed/learned from other OSs as well. In this technology "war" - there are no innocents.
 
genovelle said:
See for yourself.
http://allthingsd.com/20110727/old-email-may-bite-google-in-java-patent-suit/

Here is an except from one of the emails in question. They do not foster innovation they kill it. The real innovators who spend billions every year to create new ideas will not do so if they feel their investment can be copied and given away with no recourse. These companies would invest much less in these efforts because there is no benefit. its better to wait until someone else spends the money then just copy what works. In that case nothing gets created.

“If Sun doesn’t want to work with us, we have two options: 1) Abandon our work and adopt MSFT CLR VM and C# language – or – 2) Do Java anyway and defend our decision, perhaps making enemies along the way.”
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Yap, I know that and int this mail there is no implication of Java infringement. Perhaps in the Virtual Machine.

You know that the Java syntax is open source, don't you?
 
*LTD* said:
If anything I respect the guy even more after this.
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Then you're just as sick as he was. You can't deny that Jobs did a complete 180 from the person he used to be. The person who advocated pilfering ideas. The guy that told us to "think different". He basically became the Microsoft in the Microsoft vs Apple battle.

For every 1 person in the industry who mourned his death, there were probably 3 people who rejoiced.
 
I don't know if anyone else has said this but I feel that the exclusivity agreement with AT&T was what helped birth the Android competition.

Sure, the Verizon rumoured demands for control probably played into that too among other issues but if Apple had opened the iPhone on more carriers they would have suffocated the oxygen that Android needed to startup.

Does he say anywhere that the agreement with AT&T was a bad idea?

I also feel that subsidized phones is another bad idea but that, coupled witht he exclusive agreement with AT&T might have backfired by making the iPhone so much more expensive out of the gate.
 
Renzatic said:
It's not a double standard. People freaked out and hated MS over the very same things Apple is now doing. Just because one corporation got lucky, and managed to get away with it, doesn't mean we should give free reign to another simply because.

Do we really want to see Apple become the next MS? A company so entrenched in their respective field that they didn't even have to try anymore? Do you want to see computer technology stagnate like it did back in the late 90's, early '00's? I sure as hell don't.

Now that MS has some competition, they're making great stuff again. Apple is kicking ass left and right. And Google is making a name for themselves. Because of this, we've seen more neat stuff come out and advance in the last 5 years than we did during the previous decade beforehand. Not to say that there weren't any goings on back then, but they weren't nearly as fast paced and interesting as they are now.

The only reason this is happening is because of competition. If any one company tries to play their strengths, and monopolize themselves, we should all be bitching, whining, moaning, and groaning. Cuz who wants all this fun to stop?
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Not really. It's not about the competition. Last decade we didn't see this much action because it was the decade of the PC and PC was already established. We are seeing too much action in the last 5 years because we are getting different devices than the PC and that had to wait until the tech was ready to deliver it. And yes, we should be bitching about monopoly, as much as we should be bitching about companies not innovating and copying other companies ideas. That actually stalls true innovation. That's why there are patents, so innovation continues. Without patents everyone just waits for someone to come up with something brilliant, and copy it immediately. That's one guy innovating and 99 copying. The ideal world is where 100 of them innovate independently. Now think how amazing that would be...
 
nebo1ss said:
That is the kind of passion that destroys you. It is never a good thing, live your life and let others live theirs. It is only a phone after all and there are only so many ways you can make them. Samsung sold more Android phones than Apple Iphones in the third quarter.

How did he destroy Android?
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Samsung did not sell more Android phones than Apple iPhones. Samsung sold more smartphones, of which Android is one platform they use. They also have BADA phones and Windows Phone 7 based phones.
 
Jobs was an ass. Arrogant. A buffoon. Boorish. Greedy. Yet the minions celebrate him like a god.
 
genovelle said:
See for yourself.
http://allthingsd.com/20110727/old-email-may-bite-google-in-java-patent-suit/

Here is an except from one of the emails in question. They do not foster innovation they kill it. The real innovators who spend billions every year to create new ideas will not do so if they feel their investment can be copied and given away with no recourse. These companies would invest much less in these efforts because there is no benefit. its better to wait until someone else spends the money then just copy what works. In that case nothing gets created.

“If Sun doesn’t want to work with us, we have two options: 1) Abandon our work and adopt MSFT CLR VM and C# language – or – 2) Do Java anyway and defend our decision, perhaps making enemies along the way.”
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Oracle didn't innovate or create Java. All they did was buy it, acquire the patents and let the legal dogs loose.

That is NOT innovation!
 
Lol, he had me at "Thermonuclear war"! Jobs has the best one liners ever, but it's true Android was slated to look like a blackberry until they ripped off the very foundation of the first iPhone.
 
samcraig said:
I can paraphrase to, "I don't care about the money - I want you gone. I don't want you as a competitor"

See how that works?

Personally I think both OSs learned from each other. You could argue that Android had iOS to learn from first - but Apple certainly borrowed/learned from other OSs as well. In this technology "war" - there are no innocents.
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Jobs isn't saying "I don't want you as a competitor.". He says "stop using our ideas to compete with us."

Not even a good attempt at misrepresentation...
 
Read, learn do something before opening that Mouth

coolbreeze said:
...Apple stole from Xerox...
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Why don't you people read or do something about your lack of knowledge before spewing out incorrect idiocies. Apple didn't steal from Xerox, they paid them for research that they were doing and Xerox had no idea what to do with it. MS and Google stole from Apple i.e they took intellectual property illegally without consent. So stop arguing about that crap.
 
Jobs passion is fine. That's what you expect any CEO to want to do.

The fanboy response is pathetic. You are not Apple. You are a consumer.

Consumers win when there is competition. If there wasn't Android or a true threat to Apple, do you think you'd get something like the iP4. A few years ago people were begging for cut and paste, mms and basic camera functionality. Updates were being parsed out lacking major features.

IP4 was a mammoth upgrade directly because of the threat from Android devices.

I welcome that threat because it'll push innovations on both sides and ultimately be a win for consumers.
 
SGMD1 said:
This book seems to reinforce what we already knew.

Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he was not a good person.
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Define 'good' person. Forgive and forget? It's business my friend, it's nothing personal.
 
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