The Xerox thing wasn't directed at you, you can disregard that if you wish.
I think trying to patent a square with a display is ********. Same is "icons in a grid".
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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"
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The Xerox thing wasn't directed at you, you can disregard that if you wish.
I think trying to patent a square with a display is ********. Same is "icons in a grid".
So... I didn't talk about specs, and your comeback to my argument is that I wanted to talk about them? Awight...
1) I'm not a fandroid.
2) I haven't used an android for a long time, but I guess you're right about the lag. It's like mac VS pc.
Iphone+ios = 1. android + [htc-moto-samsung-etc] = 2.
The iphone and ios are made for each other, while android is an open OS that you can use for anything (like windows).
3) even with that "android lag", which is best described as an unperfect responsiveness, phones like the galaxy S2 ARE faster than iphones, and you can't deny that. And this time it IS about specs.
Let's see, dual-core 1,2ghz or 800mhz single core? hmm that's a tough one... Which one do you think will multitask better? Which one do you think will process background apps faster (like background downloading or music), while you're playing a cpu-gpu intensive game?
Because if you download them to your pc, you can't watch them to your phone.
Some people do watch movies/tv-series on their phone, and that's their choice. But apple doesn't give you one. You can also download android apps from torrents and install them, directly on your phone. Or download music, or e-books or whatever!
I agree with Jobs. I am glad in death he is able tell his story. It is clear that some will disagree with him.
Because you can on Android, if you dont want to fine. Others do, like me. So thank god for the power of Android.
What?
Expandability is an issue, why shouldn't it be?
But processors? Most people don't even know or care what processor is in their phone, they try it in the shop and if it works well they'll buy it.
I would even hazard a guess that a large number of Galaxy SII users bought it not just because it's fast and productive, but that it's extremely thin and light.
Much like a load of people will not buy the iPhone 4 because they were looking forward to something a little less chunky.
Anyone who crows about a piece of technology because it's got this or that processor in it isn't worth listening to.
Because (certainly in the Android world) the damn thing will be obsolete in a few weeks anyway, and they'll be bleating for the next one (not something unique to Android users!).
...the whole interface paradigm? The original Android OS was modeled after Blackberry OS. Now look at it.
This is how Android originally looked:
What will be obsolete? The processor or the phone? And why did you say that?
I have a 3gs 2 years now and it works quite fine (exept the things iOS lacks like flash/torrents/built-in file browser)
"The pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since it inception..."
Oh boy.
I don't doubt that you are a discerning and intelligent person.
But here's ThisIsMyNext's review of the latest, hottest Android handset.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-android-ice-cream-sandwich-pictures-video-hands-on/
Search for "the pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception."
It's right there in black and white.
Oh, but wait a moment. You must be running an earlier, more primitive release of Android.
One that isn't as bloated and hastily mashed up as Ice Cream Sandwich.
(Perhaps the version that Amazon so wisely chose for the Kindle Fire,
if for no other reason than to avoid rewriting their code for new beta-quality
APIs every few months...)
See, optimization is usually one of the last phases of software development.
You do it only if you have the time. Google doesn't have the time.
Too busy playing catch-up. Hence the pervasive lag.
Oh boy.
I don't doubt that you are a discerning and intelligent person.
But here's ThisIsMyNext's review of the latest, hottest Android handset.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-android-ice-cream-sandwich-pictures-video-hands-on/
Search for "the pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception."
It's right there in black and white.
Oh, but wait a moment. You must be running an earlier, more primitive release of Android.
One that isn't as bloated and hastily mashed up as Ice Cream Sandwich.
(Perhaps the version that Amazon so wisely chose for the Kindle Fire,
if for no other reason than to avoid rewriting their code for new beta-quality
APIs every few months...)
See, optimization is usually one of the last phases of software development.
You do it only if you have the time. Google doesn't have the time.
Too busy playing catch-up. Hence the pervasive lag.
They have. It's called..
wait for it...
Iris!
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/1...android-proves-apple-doesnt-have-an-edge.html
Let's see. I have two iOS devices and one Android device. Guess what, I've used them extensively and despite the app drawer on Samsung Droids look strikingly similar to the Springboard. To be honest, it feels nothing alike. Really, though aesthetically it may look similar but once you used it...
Well done. In response to me saying my SGS2 doesn't lag, you link to a review on the Nexus. Relevance?
Anyway, as I say my SGS2 doesn't seem to lag to me. In fact, I have it here with my old IP4 and performance seems far snappier on the SGS2.
Android before iPhone:
Yeah, I'd say the iPhone influenced them.
It did ? Funny, this is Android today :
Doesn't look like anything's changed to me really. Are you perchance mistaking Android for something it's not ? Android is a piece of software that is adaptable and can run off many different hardware configurations, be it slider phones, flip phones, "slab" phones (a la iPhone and LG Prada and P900/P800 from SE that date from 2003) or these good old trusty "Blackberry" phones.
Android is not a copy of iPhone. Nor is it a copy of iOS really. If we compare on a purely software basis, Android uses completely different paradigms than iOS in both UI (heavy widget use in the default UI to customize the home screens by the user) and core functionality (reliance on a VM to run compiled bytecode instead of machine code being executed natively, which makes it more portable accross CPU architectures if someone wanted to make a phone out of something other than ARM).
Both projects have their own merits. Android had/has multi-tasking, copy/paste, better notifications and widgets that iOS lacked/still lacks. iOS had the snazzy HW accelerated UI which Android still lacks.
To claim one is better and that the other is a copy and should be destroyed is just closed mindedness. There's plenty of room in the industry for both.
I'm up to page 4 in this thread and already my head is hurting from all the crap I'm reading from people who obviously have such a heavy and tainted bias and again, take the words of Steve Jobs and carry the torch off to some imaginary war.
After rummaging through this thread, your conjecture is the most sound.It did ? Funny, this is Android today :
Doesn't look like anything's changed to me really. Are you perchance mistaking Android for something it's not ? Android is a piece of software that is adaptable and can run off many different hardware configurations, be it slider phones, flip phones, "slab" phones (a la iPhone and LG Prada and P900/P800 from SE that date from 2003) or these good old trusty "Blackberry" phones.
Android is not a copy of iPhone. Nor is it a copy of iOS really. If we compare on a purely software basis, Android uses completely different paradigms than iOS in both UI (heavy widget use in the default UI to customize the home screens by the user) and core functionality (reliance on a VM to run compiled bytecode instead of machine code being executed natively, which makes it more portable accross CPU architectures if someone wanted to make a phone out of something other than ARM).
Both projects have their own merits. Android had/has multi-tasking, copy/paste, better notifications and widgets that iOS lacked/still lacks. iOS had the snazzy HW accelerated UI which Android still lacks.
To claim one is better and that the other is a copy and should be destroyed is just closed mindedness. There's plenty of room in the industry for both.
I'm up to page 4 in this thread and already my head is hurting from all the crap I'm reading from people who obviously have such a heavy and tainted bias and again, take the words of Steve Jobs and carry the torch off to some imaginary war.
Respect.
How so. There are technologies that Apple made available to all, such as the webkit browser, but their signature ideas the patented because it was what would differentiate them from the pack. Android was nothing like the iPhone when it released and Smith made Apple believe that was to be the case so he could remain as a spy on the board.
Google is a company who does not believe in anyones IP except their search algorithm. Since this is what makes them different and where their ad money comes from. Even the foundation from Android was stolen from Java with out license and they even say as much in emails released in the oracle suit against them.
How is Android playing catchup, if anything Apple are playing catchup.
They add multitasking, copy and paste, notification system, voice control etc way after their competitors.
Well Siri was bought by Apple from a 3rd party, android also has inbuilt voice control.
Even the foundation from Android was stolen from Java with out license and they even say as much in emails released in the oracle suit against them.
What?
No it isn't. I posted the original Android phone (the G1) above.
There are numerous examples of phone manufacturers tinkering with Android to decide what to produce, most of which never made it to market.
Once again, you are confusing Android with Google.
The following companies all signed up for the Open Handset Alliance and took a look at Android:
2007
HTC
LG
Sony
Motorola Mobility (joined as Motorola)
Samsung Electronics
2008
ASUSTek
Garmin
Huawei Technologies
Sony Ericsson
Toshiba
Dell
So it's little wonder they all came out with different ideas. That was the point!