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Wow, girl. You needs to do some research.

Oh wait, I'm sure you somehow always wind up with the magical Android phones that magically never have any of the battery problems that the rest of them do. Yeah, that's gotta be it. It couldn't possibly be that you're full of crap and trying to convince people to ignore the facts.

Yeah because Android phones with good battery life are magical. Here is a screenshot I took ten minutes ago.

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Never thought I'd say this, but my hat is off to Microsoft for actually blazing their own trail for...the first time ever?

The BulletPoint OS with the cut off text isn't my cup of tea, but I like that they took things in a different direction. Definitely not Microsoft's typical M.O.



Preach it, brother. In the Android world you get some hideous new iteration every other day. Behold, the brand new HTC Rezound:

*vomits*

So you post a picture of a phone that has a case on it? Yes the case is ugly, but the phone itself is not.

I don't hate the iPhone in any way, but some of you people are really full of crap.
 
how long before google/android copy Siri? I think they already started working on it.

I can't wait. Especially after Andy Rubin yesterday talked about how Siri is basically pointless since people shouldn't talk to their phones and their phones shouldn't assist them (which probably explains why Android phones seem to try so hard to be unfriendly to their users).

When they come up with the official Siri knock-off, all the fAndroids will talk about how it came out before Siri, and it's better than Siri because it can belch in Flash, and when you point out that it's a cheap, crappy rip-off, they'll quote Steve Jobs out of context saying that great artists steal.

Oh, what a great day that'll be!
 
i wonder what all the android related stocks will look like after this book comes out. with that type of dedication, im sure Steve had some crazy tricks up his sleeve ready for Apple.
 
Apple or not

Apple or not, I just want the best device and if android copies apple but makes a better device I would buy an android. The brand does not matter as long as the consumer is profiting from a better device. I dont care who makes the product.
 
Apple is an American company, FYI. Samsung, HTC, LG, etc...not so much.

Apple is generating American profits, while Google fuels the Korean economy so it can pimp its users for advertising. Nice work Serge and Larry.

Apples money is tied up in over seas investments and they they aren't bringing it back into the US they only hire a handful of well payed people in there apple campus in California and the rest are under payed retail employees so please don't use this argument. I am very disappointed with apple after finding out how they keep there garbage back full of money off of american soil to avoid paying taxes.
 
Apple is an American company, FYI. Samsung, HTC, LG, etc...not so much.

Apple is generating American profits, while Google fuels the Korean economy so it can pimp its users for advertising. Nice work Serge and Larry.

Google is generating American profits too. You might also recall that a lot of Apple's profits aren't actually available in this country. Foxconn is also making more than a bit of money on the iPhone and other Apple products. What's the difference, exactly?
 
Apples money is tied up in over seas investments and they they aren't bringing it back into the US they only hire a handful of well payed people in there apple campus in California and the rest are under payed retail employees so please don't use this argument. I am very disappointed with apple after finding out how they keep there garbage back full of money off of american soil to avoid paying taxes.

Many American companies do that. Surprise, surprise ...
 
Yeah because Android phones with good battery life are magical. Here is a screenshot I took ten minutes ago.

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So you post a picture of a phone that has a case on it? Yes the case is ugly, but the phone itself is not.

I don't hate the iPhone in any way, but some of you people are really full of crap.
I can't believe Apple would design a phone this ugly.


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He could have killed android if he allowed flash and made a new design instead of the iphone 4s. Not that it isn't a great phone, but it could have beat android in so many ways.

Yeah, God knows if Apple took the same exact insides from the iPhone 4S, but put them in a new shell, Android would be all like "No!!!1! We're gonna stop copying now! Bummer dude!! Weaksauce forever!!!" :rolleyes:

And Flash? Really? Does anyone really miss Flash on their iPhone or iPad? I don't. First, my battery lasts longer without it. Second, my device isn't chugging to load that crap. Third, it's a virus portal that I don't have to worry about. And fourth, Flash barely works on a lot of mobile devices anyway.

F in A. Well said. Flash is for retards who want to keep propping up 90's tech. Steve had vision and could see past road blocks like flash and bring up the new stuff that is the next generation. The takes courage when you're fighting bastions of crappy "I think we'll just keep our heads in the gutter and never strive again" people.
 
Android before iPhone:

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Yeah, I'd say the iPhone influenced them.

That is a reference design / demo ; it shows that Android was capable of current day smartphone functionality ( at that time, it was based upon Blackberry ).

Google updated the designs when the iPhone came along. They needed to demonstrate that Android was a capable smartphone OS that could complete with the most 'state of the art' smartphone technology in order to encourage adoption amongst cell phone manufacturers.

Originally, Google were not going to have its own branded phone, IRC.

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All companies copy each other, Apple included. Ideas morph into better implementations. Every company learns and are influenced by one another. Yes, even Apple.
 
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This book seems to reinforce what we already knew.

Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he was not a good person.
 
Wrong.

Xerox had patents, but they had no idea how to use them. Jobs had the vision to see the mouse as GUI as the future of home computing, and Xerox received a substantial amount of Apple shares in return for some of Xerox patents.

Android came about through, basically, a mole sitting on the Apple board hoovering up ideas from a product, not just a patent with no roadmap.

Apple, well Jobs, seen a patent at Xerox which no-one at the company had any plans for, and Jobs moved to secure those patents to utilise them. Xerox had no plans to make an OS based on a mouse & GUI, they had no idea what they were sitting on was the future of computing, yet Jobs had the idea and vision that the mouse & GUI was the way forward.

I wish I could vote this comment up a million times.
 
And this proves why apple is not trusted. Doing this just going to pass off the carriers as well as Android phones bring in more profit and users. Cutting off that huge chunk is pretty harsh. I could see them much less willing to give apple the sweet heart deals in contract prices and it would go up 100 to same rate as other phones.
 
What I'd like to see is Apple roll out its own search service that becomes the default on iOS devices. Instant 50%+ share of the all-important mobile search market (yes, Fandroids, we're counting the iPad and iPod Touch here). Heck, if Microsoft can create Bing, anyone can do it. ;)

It's odd that Google keeps raiding Apple's refrigerator but Apple hasn't kicked Google out of the house.

Siri makes Google redundant for many tasks.
 
I can understand why Jobs was so pissed about because of a CEO sitting in his board copying basically everything they planned for the iPhone.

But didn't they patent almost all the key aspects of iOS and iPhone? Like all the gestures etc? So doesn't any phone company that uses a pinch to zoom gesture already pays license to Apple? Or maybe Apple didn't even license them but people are using them anyway facing trials tc?
 
Competition???

Sure, Google might have borrowed some of Apple's idea, but the overall result was a net gain for all of us.

Competition is good. It breeds more innovation. When your competitor includes a new feature that people love, you're spurred to add it too. Look at the new iOS 5 notification panel. That's basically borrowed near-wholesale from Android!

If Android did not exist, we'd probably still be stuck with those horribly useless modal notification dialogs.

Apple has done wonderful things for the mobile device industry, but so has Google. If competition didn't exist, we'd probably be at least a couple years behind. What motive does a company have to improve their products when they have nearly 100% of the market?

For example, take a look at Microsoft in the early 00s and the way Windows XP stagnated.

One thing this mac-head will not be buying is an iPhone -- because they are sooo grossly overpriced.

In New Zealand, the cheapest iPad 2 is $799 while the iPhone 4S starts at $899.

Apple are not providing any competition that I can see.

Instead, it is the Android devices, and hopefully the Windows/Nokia phones that will hopefully eventually drive the iPhone prices down.

Perhaps Apple's hideous pricing model will now become extinct with Jobs gone.

If Jobs wanted to kill the Android devices, he should have priced the iPhones aggressively as he did with the iPads. This effectively locked (and still largely does) others out of the market.
 
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