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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"

I use both OS's in my home and IOS is superior to Android in many ways......IOS just works while Android doesnt......it sounds cliche but its true.......at lease from this users perspective.
 
guch20 said:
You can't deny what Android was originally going to be. It was designed as a BlackBerry clone, but once the iPhone was released, Google decided "Hey! This new OS looks great! Let's copy that one instead!" And they did.

Anyone who actually denies that Android was made as a cheap copy of iOS is ...well, I don't know what they could be.
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Isn't it possible that in both cases the os was being designed based on the dominant paradigm for smart phones at the time? BB was on top, and given hardware in the mid-aughts the bb os made sense... the screen was made to fit on the phone which meant the phone had to be wide, which also made space for a little mouse and keyboard.

when ios came out and did away with keyboard and mouse, touchscreens became practical, marketable and the new standard. phones didn't have to be that weird blackberry shape anymore, they could have vertical, phone-shaped screens with room on the side by scrolling. from there android doesn't do much more than make their own icon system, add an app drawer and widgets--all things we are more familiar with on computers.

maybe the takeaway is that not everyone can think up the mouse or make a beautiful, intuitive gui to replace command-line-based systems? jobs could. he got copied because apple's innovations caused paradigm shifts in how people expect to interact with machines. ios5 rolled out siri, a more intuitive way to interact with your phone via voice... android just rolled out face unlocking, which sounds like more of a gimmick than siri ever did to me. seems to me more of the same.
 
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Stella said:
All companies copy each other, Apple included. Ideas morph into better implementations. Every company learns and are influenced by one another. Yes, even Apple.
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And every time that happens the original inventor is pissed as hell, quite rightfully so. So it doesn't really make it "ok" because everyone does it.

That's why there are patents.
 
Destroying Android... not working out so well.

iBug2 said:
I can understand why Jobs was so pissed about because of a CEO sitting in his board copying basically everything they planned for the iPhone.
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So I guess that means Steve got a little taste of what the men and women of PARC must have felt for all of those years.
 
something3153 said:
What are you going to count as a "copy" of Siri? Because Siri wasn't the first voice recognition program by a long shot. It may be the most advanced at the moment (I honestly don't know, or care), but that doesn't mean Apple owns voice recognition now, or voice recognition on phones, or advanced voice recognition, or anything else past their implementation. At all. And future voice recognition isn't just a ripoff of Siri, no matter how much you claim it is.
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If you actually understood what Siri was, you would understand that yes they do currently own voice recognition and control at this point.
 
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This is epic.
 
Jobs, the man

SGMD1 said:
This book seems to reinforce what we already knew.

Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he was not a good person.
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Yeah, agreed. The more I read about the guy, the more he appears to be a brilliant (even nasty) jerk.
 
Fast Shadow said:
Destroying Android... not working out so well.



So I guess that means Steve got a little taste of what the men and women of PARC must have felt for all of those years.
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Yeah, it sucked for the people at PARC to have received millions in Apple stock in exchange for patent rights for their unused and incomplete GUI.
 
swingerofbirch said:
Apple didn't invent multitouch; Apple bought multi-touch patents, but actually said in its marketing it had invented multi-touch. Remember all those cool Fingerworks demos before the iPhone ever came out? Those were from Fingerworks, which Apple bought. When the first Android phones came out multi-touch was disabled at the kernel level, likely to avoid upsetting Apple, which owned the patents. When Steve Jobs said he didn't want Google's money, he wanted them to stop stealing ideas, he was saying he wasn't going to license to Google technology that Apple had bought. Apple bought intellectual property and didn't want to license it to retain a competitive advantage. Apple bought Fingerworks around the same time Google bought Android. Google's aim was to get search on every phone, Apple's was to create a new type of phone/tablet.

Legally, you could say Google stole Apple's ideas, but that's working on the premise that you can "own" an idea that isn't actually your idea. I would say it's true to an extent, but that the reality is more complicated. I would also say that the more inside stories come out about Apple and Steve Jobs, the more you see a culture of poor mental health. I'll probably be attacked for that, but it's probably a requirement to be extremely successful in a way that the world remembers you. By definition mental illness is defined in terms of deviations from normalcy, and you would need to be somewhat anomalous to be as driven, callous, and materially successful as Steve Jobs. So I don't see it as an attack--more a different way of saying what people have already said about him. He was lucky—those traits can easily destroy a person's happiness.
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You fail at understanding the concept of ownership in a serious way.
 
marksman said:
If you actually understood what Siri was, you would understand that yes they do currently own voice recognition and control at this point.
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You mean literally, "own"? You know I could voice dial almost a decade ago? You really think no one else is allowed to work on voice recognition now?
 
jhnnyklry9394 said:
I am so anxious to read this book; Monday can't get here fast enough.
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I wish publishers would offer a digital copy "bundled" with a print copy. I'd like to buy this as an iBook on the iPad, but I really want a printed version.

If the digital copy was like $5 extra on top of the cost of the printed book, I'd definitely score both together.
 
marksman said:
If you actually understood what Siri was, you would understand that yes they do currently own voice recognition and control at this point.
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So explain how it's different from voice recognition software. He was right in every way and you know it. If you think he's wrong, please tell us why. Don't quote Apple and avoid buzzwords please.
 
I'm glad Steve took such a strong stance on this. Android is clearly an inferior product, and there is still a ton of marketshare that Apple could easily win over with properly priced phones and new and innovative features such as Siri.
 
LagunaSol said:
Google took Apple's work, modified Android to mimic it, then gave it away for free to commodity Asian handset makers to bludgeon Apple with. Yeah, Steve had every right to be pissed.

Thanks Google. You're a real American dream. :rolleyes:
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LagunaSol said:
Apple is an American company, FYI. Samsung, HTC, LG, etc...not so much.

Apple is generating American profits, while Google fuels the Korean economy so it can pimp its users for advertising. Nice work Serge and Larry.
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So, Apple is better because it's American. Samsung and HTC are worse because they are Asian. And Google is also bad because they associate with Asians.

Wow, yeah, thanks for being racist.
 
I wish Apple as a company continue with Steve's desire to not only beat Android, but "destroy" Android; thereby, innovating to make better and better products wether they destroy Android or not.
 
Wasn't this off the record stuff? Or did Steve ask him to include that in the book? If it was off the record, it's not cool to include it.
 
i like my ev0 4g. The gps is superior to the iPhone. The only thing that i really miss is the ease of use with the iPhoto, iTunes, etc.

I do find myself wasting a lot less money and time on meaningless apps now.
 
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