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As much as I enjoy the X, I can definitely see where the buttonless interface will seem unintuitive to some older and more casual users. A lot of people feel comfortable with the old status quo, and see no reason to have to relearn certain aspects of using their device.

I’m not one of those people though :)

Who you calling old? I'm just turning the corner to 50 and the current swipe, swipe, then swipe again interface is pretty pre-school/remedial. More steps/more seconds wasted on the X to accomplish many of the same tasks I used to accomplish easier/faster on my 7+. I'm sticking with the X because I've been with apple products long enough to trust them to bring the software forward to match the hardware's capabilities - not because I can't learn something new or it's unintuitive. There is a difference. Right now, the hardware is way better than the software.
 
To all the people saying they are going back to a + after using an X, all I can say is, wow! 9 days with the X and I held a + today (which I had been using for 2 years) and seriously, what are people thinking? Is it just me but it looks and feels old fashioned and HUGE!

Dumbfounded anyone would want to 'go back'


This type of thinking makes me wonder if the human race is going backwards. I mean, we are supposed to be getting wiser with age right? Why can't folks just buy something and be happy with their purchase without trying to criticize others? There are many reasons to avoid the X right now:

1. Green Lines on screens.
2. Apps aren't ready.
3. Speaker issues.
4. Touch Screen Issues in the cold.
 
As much as I enjoy the X, I can definitely see where the buttonless interface will seem unintuitive to some older and more casual users. A lot of people feel comfortable with the old status quo, and see no reason to have to relearn certain aspects of using their device.

I’m not one of those people though :)

Pushing 60 here, and found that the X became familiar and comfortable within the first day. I found it quite easy to learn. When I use the 7 plus it feels awkward now.
 
Who you calling old? I'm just turning the corner to 50 and the current swipe, swipe, then swipe again interface is pretty pre-school/remedial. More steps/more seconds wasted on the X to accomplish many of the same tasks I used to accomplish easier/faster on my 7+. I'm sticking with the X because I've been with apple products long enough to trust them to bring the software forward to match the hardware's capabilities - not because I can't learn something new or it's unintuitive. There is a difference. Right now, the hardware is way better than the software.
Easy now, I’m not referencing anyone who posts on this forum :) We represent a very small slice of the user base. Also, I’m getting close to 50 myself, so old is a relative term. I worded that poorly, I suppose. Age isn’t the issue, it’s the masses of people that view the phone merely as a necessary tool. I know many, many of these folks. Work phones, that type of thing.

I’m thinking of folks like my dad. He loves his 7 plus, and has no desire to relearn anything about using his phone. It took him quite awhile to get to where he is (with a LOT of my help).

The X just seems like more of a learning curve for him. He’s not into gadgets, like most of us.
 
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Some people dont have any problems with the "chin thick" bezels but they do with the notch and many other things with the iphone X.
Imagine that people out there have personal preferences and dont just "embrace" and pay up $1000 for whatever Apple puts out as "magical" and "evolutionary".
Yes, people like that exist outside this forum :D
Yep. Some people like that chin with thick bezels. It’s about choice. Until Apple and other manufacturers stop making chin thick phones.
 
What a refreshingly different topic.

Haha, normally I would totally agree but IMHO these topics become more relevant as the days go by. The longer you use the device, the more you just 'get it'. All of you that have 'used' the X in an Apple Store, 'used' the X for just a few days before returning it or going back to your old style iphone will just never 'get it'

I would be shocked if anyone that went balls deep with the X didn't stay with it beyond the cooling off period.
 
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But come on, 14 day return period, its day 9 and loads have returned them after just hours/days, why aren't people keeping and using them for 14 days before making their minds up? Bizarre. As every day goes by the more antique the old design iPhones look and feel.
It took years for people to stop buying dumb phones or flip phones. To even try a smart phone. They can’t let go of the home button. Fortunately there will be some sort of SE model for these customers. Where they can buy old tech and enjoy it like it’s new. I’m sure Apple won’t put a OLED on a SE anytime soon.
 
This type of thinking makes me wonder if the human race is going backwards. I mean, we are supposed to be getting wiser with age right? Why can't folks just buy something and be happy with their purchase without trying to criticize others? There are many reasons to avoid the X right now:

1. Green Lines on screens.
2. Apps aren't ready.
3. Speaker issues.
4. Touch Screen Issues in the cold.

1. Nope
2. Gmail & Spotify are the only two that I use often not yet to be updated. Wow, how long did we have to wait for + apps to be updated! Its been 9 days! Oh my days
3. The speakers on the X are nothing short of phenomenal
4. Nope (but confirmed as a software issue)

"Why can't folks just buy something and be happy with their purchase without trying to criticize others?"

Thats this forum out of business overnight then lol :)
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It took years for people to stop buying dumb phones or flip phones. To even try a smart phone. They can’t let go of the home button. Fortunately there will be some sort of SE model for these customers. Where they can buy old tech and enjoy it like it’s new. I’m sure Apple won’t put a OLED on a SE anytime soon.

Defo agree on all the above!
 
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Not loving the Xmainly because of the screen size. Plus is much more comfortable imo. Just not blown away by the overall package of the Plus. If it did alot of things better than the 8+ then I’d reconsider but really just the FFC and the OLED screen which I don’t find that much different from the LCD in the Plus. Probably gonna return and get the 8+ this week
 

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Personally, I’m a big fan of the X. I’ve always actually thought my Plus iterations were just a little bigger than what I wanted in a phone, but I still preferred it over the “regular” models. I agree that the aspect ratio is odd when full screening videos, but now it just makes me want to use my iPad to watch content for an extended period of time - which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

At the end of the day, it comes down to what you want out of your phone, and to each their own. It’s simply a matter of preference now.

I find it mildly entertaining to hear people try to put down someone else’s choice for phone to justify their own purchase. Just be confident in what you got and why you got it.
Agreed. I can’t understand why people continue to argue over this. I like the plus phones more than the regular, but I always chose regular because it was more comfortable for me in my front pocket.

The X is what I’ve been wanting from Apple for a while. I had the 6s, but wasn’t going to upgrade to an 8 just for a better camera, faster processor, or glass back. I wanted a slightly larger display or at least higher resolution. The plus fits that bill, but is ruled out due to pocketability for myself. In comes the X. Slightly larger than the regular phone, but with a larger and higher resolution display. All the fancy tech and design is icing on the cake.

Honestly, all the 8+ vs X stuff is ludicrous. The X is a beefed up version of the regular sized iPhone. There is nothing about the X software that has been carried over from the plus phones. Owners of the plus devices will just not get used to the X as easily as a regular sized user will. It sucks for plus users that there is no X+ equivalent, but next year there may be, and they will probably be all over it.
 
Agreed. I can’t understand why people continue to argue over this. I like the plus phones more than the regular, but I always chose regular because it was more comfortable for me in my front pocket.

The X is what I’ve been wanting from Apple for a while. I had the 6s, but wasn’t going to upgrade to an 8 just for a better camera, faster processor, or glass back. I wanted a slightly larger display or at least higher resolution. The plus fits that bill, but is ruled out due to pocketability for myself. In comes the X. Slightly larger than the regular phone, but with a larger and higher resolution display. All the fancy tech and design is icing on the cake.

Honestly, all the 8+ vs X stuff is ludicrous. The X is a beefed up version of the regular sized iPhone. There is nothing about the X software that has been carried over from the plus phones. Owners of the plus devices will just not get used to the X as easily as a regular sized user will. It sucks for plus users that there is no X+ equivalent, but next year there may be, and they will probably be all over it.
Testing the 2 side by side I was acclimated to X gestures in 30 minutes. It’s intuitive. For me, I just don’t like the hardware. Each their own.
 
It’s all relative. I sold my 6s Plus in September. Got the 8 Plus. Returned it. Than went back to the 4 inch iPhone SE. took me 2 days to adjust to small screen. But I adjusted quickly.

Got my iPhone X. Didn’t open it but played it at the store. It’s nice but not worth it for me at this time.

Just went back to the 8 Plus. It’s huge compared to the SE. but after a couple of hours. I readjusted and am fine with the 8 Plus.
 
Unless otherwise all apps are updated to fill the X screen

It’s hardly seems any bigger and the bottom chin is still there

Just the home button turns into software digital
 
It's always amazing to see people actually spend the effort to explain to complete strangers on the internet as to why they don't buy a product. It's almost as if they need some endorsement from complete strangers for their purchase of a phone with previous design, and actually needs to give themselves the reason not to buy the X.

Spoiler: you don't need to do that. Enjoy your phone.
 
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I use the X in full screen landscape mode. No chins.

No chins but you do get much more rounded corners which cut off content and a notch cut out at least one side of your screen.

Technology of the screen might be newer or more advanced but the way Apple implemented it doesn’t really produce a better viewing experience.
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Both of those pics look like a home button is missing from the non plus iPhones
 
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To all the people saying they are going back to a + after using an X, all I can say is, wow! 9 days with the X and I held a + today (which I had been using for 2 years) and seriously, what are people thinking? Is it just me but it looks and feels old fashioned and HUGE!

Dumbfounded anyone would want to 'go back'

The Way I see it, is I'm glad Apple gave us all options. Because not everybody's interested in the iPhone X or vice versa with the iPhone 8. Many prefer the keyboard, Touch ID and width on the iPhone 7 Plus. As to the iPhone X, some really like the new form factor with gesture controls and Face ID. It's all user preference, that's all that matters.
 
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I believe he was just giving his opinion which is what a message board is for no?

As for myself, I can never go back to the plus. The ONLY way is if and when Apple makes the plus model bezel-less. Then it would be very tempting to hold that beast of a phone in my hands with all that screen. Until then, the X is perfect. :)

If you re-read his post, I don’t think he was just giving his opinion, but was chastising those that preferred the iPhone 8+ over the X, saying in part “seriously, what are people thinking?”. Then he said “Dumbfounded anyone would want to 'go back'” Not truly understanding that we have different likes and dislikes, and we cannot all be like him.
 
It is all a matter of personal choice with some people preferring one iPhone over another due to their uses and preferences. It does not make other people’s choice wrong. Just accept we have different requirements.

I have a 7+ I love, but have ordered an X - why? Mainly because I am into iPhone photography, using the 2x lens the most which my own comparison tests at the Apple store have shown is better on the X than the 7+ or 8+ (I could see little difference between those two). I like the new guesture interface on the X, always thinking the home button rather counter-intuitive on a touch screen device. I am not so keen on the aspect ratio with narrower image on the X, but think I can live with that, as most of my screen time is on an iPad Pro 12.9 anyway. I tend to use my iPhone for quick reference rather than prolonged viewing or real work. The OLED screen does not worry me either way, as this and the screen on my iPhone 7+ both look great. If the X screen did suffer burn-in, I would expect Apple to repair/replace under Apple Care. The smaller slab in my pocket will be welcome. That is my rational, but others I know will be very different and that is just fine.
 
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I’ll keep your screen name in mind for when the X plus lands to see if you jump to that.

Only kidding. In terrible with names. :)

I fail to see your point? If they did a plus sized version of the X I would jump on it right now! To the X users that are now 10 days in The + looks like a huge slab with its old fashioned chunky bezels, replicate the modern design of the X in a + size and wow!
 
Some people aren’t ready to evolve into today’s tech. They like the look of chin thick bezel phones. Pixel, Note, iPhone 8 and others. I’m a X user. Embracing the Notch and loving the size of this edge to edge screen design. X is the future. Other phone makers will copy and follow.

Copying that notch? I shudder at the thought. The Essential Phone has a tiny one for the camera, but doesnt seem to be selling very well. Here’s hoping they get rid of it on their next model. Edge to edge screens seem to be this year’s buzz for all flagships. Not sute if they’re copying Apple necessarily since it all seems to be happening at around the same time.
 
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If you re-read his post, I don’t think he was just giving his opinion, but was chastising those that preferred the iPhone 8+ over the X, saying in part “seriously, what are people thinking?”. Then he said “Dumbfounded anyone would want to 'go back'” Not truly understanding that we have different likes and dislikes, and we cannot all be like him.

Ok that’s your opinion.
 
It's definitely a dated look when you revisit the Plus size, but I can see people wanting to go back if they use landscape features a lot. The 6/6s/7/8 design looked dated when the 7 came out, I am actually a little surprised they kept it around for so long. With all of the changes to the X though, it makes sense. Apple likely wants to ease people into the future design/gestures/Face ID. It can be quite the change for people not necessarily tech savvy.
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This type of thinking makes me wonder if the human race is going backwards. I mean, we are supposed to be getting wiser with age right? Why can't folks just buy something and be happy with their purchase without trying to criticize others? There are many reasons to avoid the X right now:

1. Green Lines on screens.
2. Apps aren't ready.
3. Speaker issues.
4. Touch Screen Issues in the cold.

Apps not being ready is the only thing I would consider, although only 4 of my 48 aren't optimized for the X screen. The other issues are not widespread and will obviously be replaced/remedied by Apple.
 
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Copying that notch? I shudder at the thought. The Essential Phone has a tiny one for the camera, but doesnt seem to be selling very well. Here’s hoping they get rid of it on their next model. Edge to edge screens seem to be this year’s buzz for all flagships. Not sute if they’re copying Apple necessarily since it all seems to be happening at around the same time.
Next year we will have more smartphones drop Fingerprint scanners and implement some sort of Face ID. Just like they copied Apple after the headphone jack was removed. If they cannot place sensors and other hardware under the screen. Then it has to be placed above. If hardware isn’t designed like the X by placing in the Notch. Then the devices will have large top and bottom bezels. The X has its digitizes under the screen not like the essential phone. That has its digitizer at the bottom of the screen. Giving the essential Phone a bottom chin. Apple is leading and innovating again. Others will follow.
 
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