Front Glass Panels for 2018 iPhones Appear to Leak, Show Thicker Bezels on 6.1-Inch LCD Model

[macduke]

iPhone SE always represented a small amount of sales, even in 2016. Today, the demand for SE is even smaller as consumer preferences have shifted to larger displays.

The current demand for SE comes from emerging markets like India and South Africa where consumers have yet to purchase their first smartphone. The rest of the world has moved on to 6" displays.

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That's all fine and good, or it could be that the people who wanted an SE already upgraded and didn't upgrade again because Apple didn't release a new one? I mean, you can say all day long that everyone should be forced to use 6" displays, but that doesn't mean they should. I don't mind my iPhone X, but I have slightly larger than average size hands for a male. For accessibility reasons, some people require a smaller device. Many women have smaller hands and it's more difficult to manage using a larger device. Anecdotally a very high percentage of women that I know use an SE. Some don't mind and manage with a larger size, but for some it causes pain to have to stretch their fingers so much when using. Furthermore, a lot of women's fashion doesn't permit a phone of that size fitting in their pocket comfortably or sometimes at all. And it's not always practical to have a purse on you at all times—for instance, my wife who runs her own licensed daycare.

Apple should continue selling such a device to users who are not big and who need to be able to comfortably use their iPhone all day if Apple cares at all about upholding their accessibility mission. Accessibility isn't just for handicapped persons. A 6.1" iPhone base model is not accessible for a lot of people. The iPhone X is already slightly bigger than the 4.7" iPhone in physical case dimension and this 6.1" model is even larger than that. That combined with rumors about a new SE from a while back make me believe Apple may follow a similar model to the iPhone 6s and launch the new SE in Spring 2019 and at a higher price point than it is currently. Users will get some benefit of a larger display with it upgraded to be taller like the new iPhone range.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Budget 6.1” lower cost display,no 3d touch layer, not the same camera with the oled ones probably,aluminum frame instead of stainless steel,3gb ram instead of 4...
So,anybody more questions?

The only other two questions I have that haven’t been addressed by the current rumors:

1) Will it have a glass back/wireless charging? It seems like Apple would want that feature across the board but maybe they’re going to save it for the more expensive models.

2) Will it have an A12? No reason it couldn’t ship with the A11. The anti-Apple brigade on this forum would have their heads explode at Apple “gimping” the budget model lol.

I suspect it will have wireless charging and the A12 but we’ll know for sure in just a couple months.

 

[Coconut Bean]

The current iPhone 8 Plus has 400ppi, iPhone X has 45xppi, the iPhone 8 has 326 ppi.

My guess is that the iPhone "9" will continue to have 326 ppi, i.e the Original Retina display. But I don't see how the resolution would fit it. Nothing seems to fit the 19.5: 9 ratio Display with 3xx ppi.

Or Apple is just going to use 400ppi LCD.

Or just no 6.1inch LCD . Don't know why people keep thinking there will be any. It's just irrational.

It wouldn't be cheaper than the 8+ which they are most likely keeping and hopefully price dropping.

 

[akash.nu]

Is this cropped or does the notch seem smaller on the 6,5''?

it’s the same size on a bigger screen. Your eyes playing tricks.

 

[turbineseaplane]

@macduke Well said sir...

Hey, remember when Steve touted how they did the research and found the right size phone for human hands?
(it was a small size)

I get it - Many want and love huge phones - all good...
But, please Apple, keep offering something to cater to people who do not.

 

[Baymowe335]

Seems like it was about a third the number of iPhone 6s and 6s Plus units and helped give them a bump the quarter it was released. Sales have likely slowed because Apple hasn't been updating the thing. https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/10/t...-just-as-apple-planned-in-the-u-s-and-europe/

The article is nonsense because the "Analysts" are making up numbers. Literally. Even their made up numbers indicate only 5% of total iPhone sales are from the SE. Apple actually knows what their customers want better than the customers themselves. Apple sold 216M iPhones last year, the best year besides the iPhone 6 year because of LARGE screen pent up demand. Any coincidence Apple had their best iPhone unit sales year when they released bigger screens? Hmmm..

See how my opinion is based in fact?

 

[naturalstar]

Trying to patiently wait. It will be the 6.5” for me.

 

[JPack]

That's all fine and good, or it could be that the people who wanted an SE already upgraded and didn't upgrade again because Apple didn't release a new one? I mean, you can say all day long that everyone should be forced to use 6" displays, but that doesn't mean they should. I don't mind my iPhone X, but I have slightly larger than average size hands for a male. For accessibility reasons, some people require a smaller device. Many women have smaller hands and it's more difficult to manage using a larger device. Anecdotally a very high percentage of women that I know use an SE. Some don't mind and manage with a larger size, but for some it causes pain to have to stretch their fingers so much when using. Furthermore, a lot of women's fashion doesn't permit a phone of that size fitting in their pocket comfortably or sometimes at all. And it's not always practical to have a purse on you at all times—for instance, my wife who runs her own licensed daycare.

Apple should continue selling such a device to users who are not big and who need to be able to comfortably use their iPhone all day if Apple cares at all about upholding their accessibility mission. Accessibility isn't just for handicapped persons. A 6.1" iPhone base model is not accessible for a lot of people. The iPhone X is already slightly bigger than the 4.7" iPhone in physical case dimension and this 6.1" model is even larger than that. That combined with rumors about a new SE from a while back make me believe Apple may follow a similar model to the iPhone 6s and launch the new SE in Spring 2019 and at a higher price point than it is currently. Users will get some benefit of a larger display with it upgraded to be taller like the new iPhone range.

No, we can see from the data the adoption of SE was far below previous 4-inch models like iPhone 5 and 5s.

Consumers aren't buying SE to replace their iPhone 5 and 5s from 2012 and 2013.

Given this, it's unlikely Apple will build an SE2 at all. The primary driver for SE is emerging markets and we have news the Wistron plant in India is assembling iPhone 6s as the next low-cost device.

 

[PickUrPoison]

I just don’t understand why features have to be exclusive to a screen size. The 6.1 is the perfect size, yet it’s going to be the least technologically packed. How am I supposed to decide between a phone that doesn’t do what I want, and a phone I can’t hold?!

It’s not necessarily the size, it’s the pricing that’s controlling. The 6.1” will be a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the OLED models, so lower tech.

 

[GoodWheaties]

iPhone SE always represented a small amount of sales, even in 2016. Today, the demand for SE is even smaller as consumer preferences have shifted to larger displays.

The current demand for SE comes from emerging markets like India and South Africa where consumers have yet to purchase their first smartphone. The rest of the world has moved on to 6" displays.

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Isn’t that chart showing sales not units? With the SE at half the price of course the sales will not look favorable. Only Apple knows but I would expect the installed user base of 4” phones is larger than expected.

 

[JPack]

The only other two questions I have that haven’t been addressed by the current rumors:

1) Will it have a glass back/wireless charging? It seems like Apple would want that feature across the board but maybe they save it for the more expensive models.

2) Will it have an A12? No reason it couldn’t ship with the A11. The anti-Apple brigade on this forum would have their heads explode at Apple “gimping” the budget model lol.

I suspect it will have wireless charging and the A12 but we’ll know for sure in just a couple months.

I suspect glass back with wireless charging is very likely. The iPhone X and 8 have a glued on glass back. If I had to guess, the current glass + midframe design is comparable or less expensive than a unibody shell on previous iPhone models.

A12 has been confirmed by Kuo.

 

[PickUrPoison]

One of these phones needs to either bring back the headphone jack OR replace Lightning with USB-C. If Apple does at least one of those things, I will be the first one to purchase! If not, there's no way Apple's getting a dime from me.

Neither will happen. There are billions of lightning cables out there and little to be gained by switching ports.

 

[JPack]

Isn’t that chart showing sales not units? With the SE at half the price of course the sales will not look favorable. Only Apple knows but I would expect the installed user base of 4” phones is larger than expected.

No, sales mix refers to volume.

If it were sales dollars (revenue), the chart would indicate that. And the contribution from the Plus series would be significantly larger in the mix.

 

[PickUrPoison]

whats the point in buying when LPDDR5 is around corner !!

waste of money

How far away is your corner? It might be three or more years away. Apple will wait until it’s available from multiple suppliers, and is cost effective.

 

[bpeeps]

As others have said, it's due to the medium sized one using an LCD panel instead of OLED.

But if you're asking why they're doing this, it's mainly due to the asian market where people are buying these very large "phablet" phones for relatively very little money. So Apple needs to provide not just a large phone for that market but a competitively priced one.

Yeah, that's definitely how I interpreted the original question, the why. Thanks for answering.
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So true. It's just not possible to do that with LCD. I believe that some people are going to be disappointed as when placed next to the X, the difference will be very very noticeable. We shall see. Jony is a genius, so let's see what he does. Mind you, he did that damn 5C in an unapologetic plastic didn't he which really did apologise!

I can't remember the last time the rumors didn't pan out to be correct. The notch was right. The antenna lines on the 6 model were right. You'd have to go all the way back to the teardrop shape rumors to find a design leak that hasn't been correct. This is pretty likely the lineup for the phones, especially this close to release.

 

[iFoure]

Why oh Why does every model include FaceID?? why can't Apple offer one model without the Notch? I was hoping that the LCD equipped one would have been FaceID-free but no such luck according to these leaks. Damn you Apple >:/

 

[JPack]

So true. It's just not possible to do that with LCD. I believe that some people are going to be disappointed as when placed next to the X, the difference will be very very noticeable. We shall see. Jony is a genius, so let's see what he does. Mind you, he did that damn 5C in an unapologetic plastic didn't he which really did apologise!

Thin-bezel LCD has already been possible for nearly a year. JDI has been an Apple supplier since 2012.

 

[Dydegu]

The budget Touch ID phone already exists: iPhone SE.

I hope it gets an update!

 

[Swazaloo]

I really hope that the entire lineup does not go for the notch, I prefer the notchless design. I’m sure that I would get used to it but I’m just not ready yet.

It's fine, after 5 minutes you don't even see it anymore. And keep in mind that the notch ADDS screen, it does not remove screen.

 

[Vasilioskn]

Lord that notch is ugly. I hope it’s gone for the next model

 

[ksec]

Or just no 6.1inch LCD . Don't know why people keep thinking there will be any. It's just irrational.

It wouldn't be cheaper than the 8+ which they are most likely keeping and hopefully price dropping.

If it wasn't Ming said I wouldn't have believed it, his track record on iPhone ( Mac and other product seems to be hit and miss ) so far seems to be correct most of the time.

 

[FunkyTang]

Wow! Not that much difference in size.

I’ll take the small one.

 

[gavroche]

Please rewrite the headline.... the article in no way talks about the screens leaking....

 

[FunkyTang]

History shows it wasn’t a mistake. People complained before that the base model was too big. Apple sales shot through the roof despite the complaints. Eventually they release the SE to accommodate the complainers. But it turns out that while vocal and loud, the actual number of people who demand a smaller phone is very small compared to those who,buy the bigger phones.

Hard to find a 4” phone that’s not the SE or isn’t made by a company with a past malware issue.
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I think the SE will live on - they need it for the Indian market - after yesterday's terrible sales report for India, 2% this year? I agree the SE size is beautiful. I really hate those obese Plus iPhone's. To me, they look very very silly. They are huge and vulgar. Not my choice.

Only problem is that India isn’t buying it. Less than a million this year is what the article stated.

 

[deckard666]

Same old same old, remember when 40” tv’s were too big ?