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Full-featured Leopard Beta at WWDC
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come on people!
Maybe it's just me, but this is a no brainer:
Apple WILL have new never-before-seen stuff. Or else, here's how WWDC will go down:
Steve Jobs gets up on stage, and shows the iPhone again, nothing new. Then he switches to Leopard, and shows it off again, nothing new.
Ya, that's a POINTLESS Keynote.
My prediction: all 15.4" laptops upgraded to LED screens, perhaps one other hardware update (nVidia GPU?). Then a bunch of new features in Leopard that blow the PISS out of everything seen thus far.
Ya, my keynote sounds better
Maybe it's just me, but this is a no brainer:
Apple WILL have new never-before-seen stuff. Or else, here's how WWDC will go down:
Steve Jobs gets up on stage, and shows the iPhone again, nothing new. Then he switches to Leopard, and shows it off again, nothing new.
Ya, that's a POINTLESS Keynote.
My prediction: all 15.4" laptops upgraded to LED screens, perhaps one other hardware update (nVidia GPU?). Then a bunch of new features in Leopard that blow the PISS out of everything seen thus far.
Ya, my keynote sounds better
What about devs who have ADC membership which allows them to download seeds, but who cannot be present at WWDC, when will they be able to obtain the feature complete beta? Hopefully it'll be in a more timely manner than last time. If I recall the seed download didn't appear until at least a week, if not longer, and I feel it could well have been at least a month, after the time when devs present were given the media.
This represents lost development time, which is never a good thing, especially when you're waiting on something to deliver "top secret" features, which might impact on how your product works and require minimal or, and one hopes not, major recoding.
I know of some people who were wanting to get on with development, and with lack of a legal download resorted to other methods to obtain the seed. The were loathe to do this but with no indication from Apple as to when the seed would be legally available for download on ADC, what other choice was there.
Hopefully we'lls see the release of the seed on ADC during the week of WWDC.
This represents lost development time, which is never a good thing, especially when you're waiting on something to deliver "top secret" features, which might impact on how your product works and require minimal or, and one hopes not, major recoding.
I know of some people who were wanting to get on with development, and with lack of a legal download resorted to other methods to obtain the seed. The were loathe to do this but with no indication from Apple as to when the seed would be legally available for download on ADC, what other choice was there.
Hopefully we'lls see the release of the seed on ADC during the week of WWDC.
NO secret feature will equal the frenzy that people whip themselves into on a rumor site
I guarantee people will act as though Apple's choice to hold back certain features until this year is some kind of personal promise that these features will change their lives
I hope the secret feature will be a check for 1 million dollars included in every retail box. Anything less and I will be disappointed.
NO secret feature will equal the frenzy that people whip themselves into on a rumor site
I guarantee people will act as though Apple's choice to hold back certain features until this year is some kind of personal promise that these features will change their lives
I am just waiting for the announcement from Microsoft shortly after the Beta release, they have decided to update Vista to address consumer feedback (and to copy Leopard).
Rocketman
The image they choose to represent OSX Leopard in this email is the giant "X" with a yellow light shining from behind. Not the black and white spotted "X" they have been using to represent Leopard in most of their materials. This suggests to me that they want to harken back to the Macworld teaser shot, the light from behind the. What was announced that day? iPhone. Now we see the giant "X" with the same iconography, Apple clearly wants to harken to the revolutionary steps they made in January with the iPhone and indicate that Leopard will be of the same calliber and also be connected to the iPhone in ways we cannot yet fully grasp.
uhmmmm, or it could mean absolutely nothing at all. Yawn.
Leopard Secret Features?
Anybody else think that maybe Steve mentioned other "secret" features as a passing remark that they have now come to regret? Maybe the reason for the delay is because the rumor sites have created such huge expectations for what may have been an off-the-cuff comment that they were pressured to come up with some whiz-bang features to make sure they don't disappoint the public.
Anybody else think that maybe Steve mentioned other "secret" features as a passing remark that they have now come to regret? Maybe the reason for the delay is because the rumor sites have created such huge expectations for what may have been an off-the-cuff comment that they were pressured to come up with some whiz-bang features to make sure they don't disappoint the public.
The image they choose to represent OSX Leopard in this email is the giant "X" with a yellow light shining from behind. Not the black and white spotted "X" they have been using to represent Leopard in most of their materials. This suggests to me that they want to harken back to the Macworld teaser shot, the light from behind the
Any other company, and I'd put it down to "just trying to make it look good". But Apple are masters of design so there is likely meaning behind the image.
I'm a bit excited for this. I can't wait to see what they've done with the interface. Prior to us being told "there are secrets", Leopard just felt like another standard OSX update. They have my attention!
i'm thinking core animation will be used for a fully 3-D desktop.
I also think they will have an iphone interface where you can (via bluetooth) bring up the iphone on your mac, do what ever, then "eject" it and you're off.
I also think they will have an iphone interface where you can (via bluetooth) bring up the iphone on your mac, do what ever, then "eject" it and you're off.
I'm all for built in support for multi-touch and new displays to support it ala Minority Report
I'll have to find it, but on youtube there was a video of a researcher using a large touch screen to do all sorts of stuff. sounds like what you're talking about.
In my experience, Apple always takes forever to make the new seeds available to non-WWDC developers. Last year was actually quick for them.
While I do hope they will improve this year, expect it to take at least a month after WWDC.
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about
awww, you beat me to it. Stupid work is always getting in the way of my MR time
Well, Apple is implying with this e-mail that attendees will get the beta before everyone else. So even ADC Select/Premier members that don't attend may have to wait--at least a little while.
My thoughts exactly. I cringe every time people start going off about "top secret" features.NO secret feature will equal the frenzy that people whip themselves into on a rumor site
I guarantee people will act as though Apple's choice to hold back certain features until this year is some kind of personal promise that these features will change their lives
I thought something about it was kind of childish, actually. Then the way people won't drop it is even more childish. I do like that they're not making big announcements about vaporware before it's actually been coded the way MS would. I do think some of it was to cover for the fact that they'd spent most of their time working under the hood and didn't have much that would make a good demo yet. I also think some of it was to make sure MS didn't hack on any new UI gizmos at the last minute (though it was kind of late for that). I expect that some of it tied in with new hardware-- the iPhone in particular.
No. I think all the independent groups within Apple had their independent schedules and when they reconciled them they released there was too much stuff targeted for the same month/quarter. Some of this is an artifact of the Apple being much more diverse now. They have different divisions, but there are bottlenecks I'm sure. Embedded OS X was almost certainly one of them.
Apple needs much more than 5% market share (or much less) for this to make sense... Not gonna happen for quite a while.
LED screens & touch technology
Ok, with other rumors of LED screens, what about this from the same developer of the large screen multi-touch technology on the google video? Hmmmm...could be very very interesting. I'll be the first to predict that we'll see something like this soon!
Ok, with other rumors of LED screens, what about this from the same developer of the large screen multi-touch technology on the google video? Hmmmm...could be very very interesting. I'll be the first to predict that we'll see something like this soon!
awww, you beat me to it. Stupid work is always getting in the way of my MR time
So, rather than reaching up to touch your monitor, you could have a revolutionary LED input device
It would have to be a lot bigger than that one though. Interesting indeed.All that and more...
Originally I had thought of a tablet pc type of interface using a LED screen and this technology. However your suggestion of a keyboard type application is interesting too!
So, rather than reaching up to touch your monitor, you could have a revolutionary LED input device
Originally I had thought of a tablet pc type of interface using a LED screen and this technology. However your suggestion of a keyboard type application is interesting too!
I suppose the tablet makes more sense. It's just that I'm pretty used to how my monitor sets on my desk, and can't imagine having to reach forward to do anything