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"Full" internet, really?

BobHail said:
I´m not gonna buy any tablet device until it will have a full internet experience.
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Let's get to the crux of the matter. Do you think anyone here cares what you do with your threats of not purchasing an iPad? Do you really. If it means, you will take your rants over to a Windows or Android forum then cut off your nose to spite your face and go purchase somewhere else. These "I'm not going to do this or that" threads are boring.
 
Piggie said:
Never even heard this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/badgers/

Or this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/

Which due to popularity spawned people around the world to do funny things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NvcQ3Yiqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU

and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6phPCrisg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4flkm02mPv0
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I'm gonna just take your word for it. Still probably never going there on my iPad or iPhone or my MacBook.
 
GOSH! we are still on flash, stop complaining it will never happen. live to deal like the rest of us. GOSH! lol

but in all seriousness yea the thing is flash, and like i said live with it we bought it knowing it didn't have flash. and most likely if ur on this site u knew before hand like the rest of us geeks. the thing is the main stream user/consumer doesn't know and that sucks. but many of the popular sites are now apps so i get where your coming from but don't say the experience isn't awesome otherwise. :D
 
BobHail said:
Actually I´ve now used it plenty. My friend bought one so I´ve been able to play with it in "relaxed enviroment" (you know not in noisy enviroment in some crowded shop).

All I hear from most of you is just excuses, excuses and excuses... Is it fun to be so ignorant? Anyone with a half a brain would notice the huge difference browsing all these sites OS X Safari (full internet) vs iPad (mobile internet). There´s just so many things you can´t do on mobile internet. It´s night and day difference. You can´t deny that.

I´ve little bit changed my mind about the iPad, it´s very slick and nice, but there´s just so many things about it that bugs me. It basically can´t do anything that my iPhone can do and my iPhone can do soooooo much more than the iPad. But the biggest problem with it is the mobile internet, which is a dealbreaker for me.

I´m not gonna buy any tablet device until it will have a full internet experience.
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If an iPad works for you, welcome to the party. If not then please pull ahead to the next window and best of luck to you. No harm done. No insults needed.
 
It's wrong to deny some people things just because you (and I don't mean you personally) don't use them.

It would be like me Telling you, you should not use a car because they are rubbish and motorcycles are better.

It would be better to offer both and let the customer choose which one he/she would prefer.
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So buy a tablet that does that. It's not 'wrong' for Apple to offer the features it thinks are appropriate. They owe you nothing, and you owe them nothing.:rolleyes:
 
sapporobaby said:
Then don't buy it and most of all don't come here to whine (qualifies as a whine because this has been discussed before) about things that have been discussed ad nausea. It has been WELL DOCUMENTED from day one that the iPad does not support Flash (this to has been explained over and over and over) and never well. If the iPad in its current form is not for you then it never will be. Go buy the Samsung when it comes out and be happy with that. You will have your full Internet for about 3 or 4 hours based on the battery life.

Cue Winni to come and complain as well....
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You are confused. This site is for discussing Apple products which is exactly what the OP is doing. One can praise or whine about these products depending on their experience. And if we only discussed every topic only once his site would die in a week.

SidBala said:
Ok... Don't.

No one gives a rat's behind whether you buy a tablet device or not.
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By the same token, nobody gives a rat's behind whether you buy anything or not and yet all this forum does is discussing just that.
 
I hate to sound cliché, but there's apps for that. I use an app called Friendly Facebook, and it's much nicer than the website itself. Safari is lacking on the iPad, so I use Atomic browser. My web experience has been great on my iPad, other than the fact that Safari needs to be further developed, and we need more html5 sites. I wasn't able to view a clients site on my iPad because of Flash, and in the gaming industry, many front-end jobs require flash knowledge and examples of work (demo reel) done in flash for portability. This alone may force me to have to purchase a windows or android tablet, which I would rather not have to do.
 
Whether the iPad is a useful web browser or not really depends on what sort of sites you visit. Personally I've found that the iPad works really well for the sites that I go to; it works so well that web browsing is easily the activity that I spend most time doing. Admittedly my tastes are a little traditional (ie. blogs, forums, YouTube, news, generally informational sites) however it is rare that I find something that I want to access but can't.
 
Piggie said:
This is a VERY well known web site:

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/
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Piggie said:
Never even heard this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/badgers/

Or this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/

Which due to popularity spawned people around the world to do funny things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NvcQ3Yiqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU

and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6phPCrisg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4flkm02mPv0
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Uh, unfortunately the website does work on the iPad and the videos play. (Well the first 10 seconds did anyway. That's all I could take.)

Maybe they realized that with 8 million plus iPads and counting being sold, that it was time to change with the times.

Do you REALLY find those videos funny ? Seriously.
 
Piggie said:
Never even heard this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/badgers/

Or this: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/

Which due to popularity spawned people around the world to do funny things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NvcQ3Yiqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUNipuz2SU

and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6phPCrisg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4flkm02mPv0
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Well, there went 90 seconds of my life I'll never get back. I think I'd be willing to pay extra for devices that filtered out sites like these.

Chacun à son goût.
 
blackNBUK said:
Whether the iPad is a useful web browser or not really depends on what sort of sites you visit. Personally I've found that the iPad works really well for the sites that I go to; it works so well that web browsing is easily the activity that I spend most time doing. Admittedly my tastes are a little traditional (ie. blogs, forums, YouTube, news, generally informational sites) however it is rare that I find something that I want to access but can't.
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I agree with your point of view but the OP is still correct in pointing out that Apple's claim about "full internet" is ridiculous.
 
Blame the websites and their designers ( not developers or programmers bc those names are reserved for people who can make things outside of flash). The iPad has been out for over 6 months and given Apples track record with the iPod and iPhone, any competent webmaster would have adapted. Adapt or be left behind,if you can't compete, see you later aka never.

MySpace is still around? That site reminds me of geocities and web 1.0

Facebook and YouTube work fine in Safari and many apps.

Adobe never got a functional version of flash out since the iPhone was released. If they did it would be on all iOS devices. Adobe got lazy after they bought Macromedia, which the DOJ should have blocked.
LightRoom is the best thing that came out of that company in years and was started as a side project by Thomas Knoll who invented Photoshop. He did light room bc Photoshop became a bloated piece of poop. At least for his needs, the father of photoshop.

Email your fav websites and complain there, it will do more good than here.

Good Luck and may we all live in an OPEN peaceful Internet.
 
Dont use facebook on the ipad then.

Facebook sucks anyway...just a bunch of sheep, I will never use it. I prefer to talk to my friends in person. Oh and not add random people I dont know to my "Friends" list etc etc.
 
ri0ku said:
Dont use facebook on the ipad then.

Facebook sucks anyway...just a bunch of sheep, I will never use it. I prefer to talk to my friends in person. Oh and not add random people I dont know to my "Friends" list etc etc.
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Nice solution. "If you can´t do something on iPad, it sucks anyway so don´t do it", riiiight!
 
To everyone that says facebook works fine, I have some issues using it on the ipad I got last week.

How do you chat?
How do you scroll through lists, e.g. open a friends friend list and scroll?

I haven't had much time to play with it yet, only used facebook for about 10 mins but was unable to do these things but maybe I was missing something obvious.
 
bier-meister said:
To everyone that says facebook works fine, I have some issues using it on the ipad I got last week.

How do you chat?
How do you scroll through lists, e.g. open a friends friend list and scroll?

I haven't had much time to play with it yet, only used facebook for about 10 mins but was unable to do these things but maybe I was missing something obvious.
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E buddy, but there are many others.

Two finger scroll.
 
I love my iPad. I use it everyday. I even sold my macbook pro. The iPad does everything I need it to do "for me".

However my girlfriend will not even look at it till she can play Cafe World and other flash based games. Which is good because I don't have to share.
 
stix said:
I don't use Facebook, I don't use Myspace and the Youtube player provided in the iPad works just great for me. The internet on the iPad ticks all my boxes :)
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Exactly.

To the OP: no offense but MySpace, Facebook and YouTube is all your internet use? Man, you're missing out. There is so much more out there.
 
BobHail said:
All I hear from most of you is just excuses, excuses and excuses... Is it fun to be so ignorant? Anyone with a half a brain would notice the huge difference browsing all these sites OS X Safari (full internet) vs iPad (mobile internet). There´s just so many things you can´t do on mobile internet. It´s night and day difference. You can´t deny that.
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Here's the problem, you're right that mobile internet is a problem but totally wrong that the iPad uses it. In its standard build the iPad is virtually identical to a desktop PC running a normal web browser without plugins. There are some sites (not many I have to say) that still identify the iPad version of Safari as the iPhone / iPod Touch one but I've not yet, not once, run across one that doesn't have a 'use full site' option on it. Everything renders properly, no wait, sorry I'll rephrase that. There are no more rendering errors than any other browser (they all have their moments of weirdness with certain things) but the vast majority of pages render properly just as they do with a desktop client.

Obviously there are certain things that don't work, Flash content being the most obvious example, but whether that's an issue or not is entirely down to the individual. In your case it might be a deal breaker. In mine I work to actively block flash content on the desktop anyway and don't use a single site that requires it. I use the iPad for all my home browsing and there's a grand total of ONE site I visit regularly that I don't use the iPad for and that's purely because I want to use a physical keyboard when entering details to pay off my credit card. Same with my wife, she's not yet found something that doesn't work on the iPad.

So to sum up here, yes there are things you can't do on the iPad. If you made a list I'm sure it'd look quite impressive. But that's only half the story, to complete it you need to cross-reference that list with what the individual user accesses. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but please don't assume that this is an issue that affects everyone.
 
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