AppliedVisual said:
Hmm, seems like a lot of posters here don't comprehend 'Santa Rosa', Intel's code naming for the latest greatest component system to make a whole computer, your all inclusive design so to speak. Merom is Santa Rosa, or more correctly the CPU of choice for the Santa Rosa platform. Crestline is a part of the Santa Rosa platform also, it just hasn't been shipped by Intel yet. Merom came out 1st, and was made capable of being used in the older Intel designated platform called Napa.
Depending on what has been delaying the announcement of C2D (Merom) MBP's, if the MBP has been in production, and will be shipping shortly; then obviously fewer upgraded components will be included. The Nvidia 7800 mobile GPU's have been available for ions in computer time tables, no reason Apple would put them in any laptop now when more current models are available.
Apple could be working on a revised, cooler internal design, but I think anyone who thinks Apple has worked some miracle of cooling; such that they can now throw in a much hotter, battery draining, GPU; is just dreaming...it's not going to happen.
A FSB of 800Mhz (as has been said 'dozens of times before on MR'...hehe, sorry AV, I couldn't resist) will not result in some astounding increase in performance. An incremental increase, of some smaller amount- kind of like this quote from above "The C2D gives about a 5% typical speed boost, up to 10 to 15% in performance apps". Higher clocked DDR2 memory also generates more heat, uses more power. Same reason the Mobility x1600 is underclocked in the MBP 15in...too much heat. A likely GPU now; if the MBP C2D's are to be released this month, not in the future; the minor upgrade going from x1600 to the ATI Mx1700. But Crestline shipping now/soon? Not likely despite the typically inaccurate/optimistic dates given on this site:
http://www.mikeshardware.co.uk/RoadmapQ306.htm LOL, they state on this site that the " release of the nVidia GeForce Go G80M is expected to be released in November. The GeForce Go G80M is the mobile equivalent of the G80 GPU." So if it's based on the G80, will it also have a hybrid water/fan cooled operation and require a 450w PSU!!! Wow, "That's Hot!"
There you go, MBP update just before Thanksgiving...with the new mid-level "ATI Radeon Mobility M76 is expected to be released in November. This GPU is based on the R600 core and is targeted at the mid range mobile market." Don't forget that Panasonic slot loading Blu-ray, Apple will be 1st to market with that, trust me
.No Crestline until March 2007 according to this unreliable sitehttp://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20061012A7032.html. Which means, unless Intel is ahead of schedule, don't expect Crestline (PM965 chipset) in a MBP revision @MWSF
. There sure are going to be a lot of disappointed whiners on MR, when the current MBP gets updated. While Apple is under no obligation to use the full set of Santa Rosa components, it's almost a given they'll use many of the additional features of the platform. Interlaced screen, Robson NAND cache, etc. all to save more battery power. http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2845&p=2Also http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/09/27/intel_intros_santa_rosa/
"Intel is still saying Santa Rosa will ship in H1 2007, though it's expected to come late Q1/early Q2."
Like I said before, higher performing GPU's in a ultra thin Apple laptop, will require GPU's that consume less power, which means wait until they go below 80nm process, later next year?. Later next year 45nm CPU's
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/10/11/intel_centrino_roadmap/
"Just as Santa Rosa hasn't followed hot on the heels of 'Merom', the Core 2 Duo mobile processor, so it seems likely Montevina will debut some months after Penryn. The 45nm chip is said to consume no more than 29W, compared to Merom's 35W TDP."
Analogous to Crestline is "Cantiga ups the frontside bus speed to 1,067MHz and looks set to support 800MHz DDR 3 in preference to the less power-efficient 800MHz DDR 2, the report suggests."
