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Excellent! No need to buy Mac laptops anymore… those smaller keys saved palm rest place and we’re super easy to differentiate. Not buying an argument that they couldn’t squeeze Touch ID into smaller buttons. This is Cook’s Apple - going from neglect to over engineering to creating solutions for nonexistent problems.

Gonna pick up Mac mini or bigger iMac and use my old aluminum keyboard with it, iPad will take care of stuff on the move.
 
I also hope they didn't reduce the size of the trackpad, it is one of the great things about the MacBook. Love that massive trackpad.
 
Perhaps the function keys will have a screen on top of each, to be configurable.
Apple might have also come up with a sort of mix between function keys and touch bar.
 
Perhaps the function keys will have a screen on top of each, to be configurable.
Apple might have also come up with a sort of mix between function keys and touch bar.
This sounds intriguing and potentially fun to use
 
Pure speculation, but I wonder if Apple wanted to move SoC blocks from Intel CPU to the T2 chip as a pre-cursor to the M1 chip. Having a coprocessor they then came up with the TouchBar to make additional use of the T2.

I liked the TB but it badly needed haptics, especially the 2016 ESC key was a pain.
 
Like how you accidentally thouched the ‘h’ physical key when typing ‘touches’? 😉🙂

Seems like the Touch Bar may not be the issue…

Nothing worse than people who offer nothing other than correcting spelling errors. Seem like you're the issue then....
 
The Touch Bar is an experimental idea that should've never left the lab.

Wrong. Would you say the iPad should have stayed in the lab? The biggest trouble with the Touch Bar for many was that apple forced away discrete function keys, which have their place for many.
 
Wrong. Would you say the iPad should have stayed in the lab? The biggest trouble with the Touch Bar for many was that apple forced away discrete function keys, which have their place for many.
What does the iPad have to do with the Touch Bar? The biggest trouble with the Touch Bar is that it's a solution in search of a problem.
 
A shame that nothing ever really materialized with the Touchbar. All those years and Apple essentially left it as is after day 1, not innovating with it at all after making such a big deal over it when it launched.

I always liked it but honestly would prefer to go back to function keys at this point.
 
Nothing worse than people who offer nothing other than correcting spelling errors. Seem like you're the issue then....

I agree it’s not constructive and not great if that’s all someone offers on the forum. Hopefully that’s not true for me.

It was just a good opportunity to point out that sometimes the failure isn’t in the technology but how we adapt to it. (And yes, technology should also be adapted to us.)

I’m sorry if I offended you (I hoped to minimise that with the use of emoji).
 
Get something “different” and people want to go back. Stay the same and then people complain about lack of innovation from Apple. Lose lose!
 
If being ‘professional’ is the spin that’s being put on losing a feature that has so much potential & utility (for professionals), then following that logic the Touch Bar could resurface on a future MacBook Air.
The Touch Bar had potential but never realized that potential, partially because not even Apple fully supported it, and partially because it was just a flawed concept and flawed implementation. And because of these reasons, the developers didn’t fully support it either.

Good riddance.
 
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What does the iPad have to do with the Touch Bar? The biggest trouble with the Touch Bar is that it's a solution in search of a problem.
Not really.... not every innovation is to solve a problem.... some are to evolve or enhance. The Touch Bar is one such example, having app-specific context-sensitive actions available as shortcuts rather than a bunch of generic keys is much more useful in my view. And also probably the view of many others willing to embrace change. My 16" MBP is my first Touch Bar machine and I love it.
 
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If they were going to get rid of the touch bar surely they would have done it with the M1 macbooks?
How do you sell a more expensive pro laptop which looks like it has "less" technology than the cheaper macbooks?
From a marketing point of view it seems odd.

The irritation seems to come from developers and they seem like the most vocal group on the internet. But Apple must have the metrics to know how many people use functions keys or I doubt they'd have done it in the first place.
So who is actually correct here?

I like mine. Yeah it looks a bit flashy, but thats the whole point if your buying these expensive products right? You want the best tech available no?
 
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