Didn't "the majority" actually have an issue with the loss of the physical ESC key over anything else?
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Full-Size Function Keys Expected to Feature on New MacBook Pro Models
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Touch Bar: Forcing the user to look at their keyboard instead of their screen since 2016.
It goes against good user interaction design.
I hate using it.
It goes against good user interaction design.
I hate using it.
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You sound like the 3D Touch fans. You are free to really love it of course and it does have some advantages, but you are definitely in the minority, for a feature that had half-assed support and iffy implementation.
Nope, not really ..... I didn't care for 3D touch as I always considered it just a "long touch" that could be implemented on iPads and other devices without 3D Touch hardware. This obviously became Haptic Touch. I did however get annoyed at the loss of the Force Touch features on the Watch... specifically the shortcuts it added and subsequently had removed, rather than Force Touch itself (even haptic touch didn't bring them back)
What touchbar? -- a MBP user who primarily uses it in clamshell mode.
Jokes aside, if Apple were really serious about the Touchbar, it would already be present in their latest Magic Keyboards.
Jokes aside, if Apple were really serious about the Touchbar, it would already be present in their latest Magic Keyboards.
I love the Touch Bar, it adds extra functionality which is useful. They could easily have both the function keys and Touch Bar, best of both worlds.
I didn’t say you are a 3D Touch fan. I was saying that your love of the Touch Bar is like other people’s love of 3D Touch.
You and they are vocal minorities, but were ultimately not enough to support these flawed features.
CTRL + CMD + Space barNot sure what I'm doing differently but I can't remember the last time I used a function key
I love the Touch Bar for volume and brightness (swappable), music controls, emojis. I'll miss it
I was saying: There‘s a definite benefit to touch-controls when implemented correctly, like with the iPad/iPhone.
The biggest trouble with the Touch Bar was in its implementation. Apple has created many solutions in search of a problem but I don’t consider the touch pad to have been one of them.
Just use the Brave browser, or get an ad blocker. No need for hardware to solve an issue that software can fix.
Unpopular opinion here but I actually really like the Touch Bar. Everything else on these new MacBook’s looks like it will be very welcome but I really do think removing the Touch Bar is a step backwards. Guess consumers just aren’t ready for it 🤷🏻♂️
I think the Touch Bar detractors are the real vocal minority – the developers, tech YouTubers and industry commentators who have a disproportionate influence from various elevated platforms.
They often regurgitate an ‘accepted’ opinion, passing it off as the view of the masses when in reality there’s a lot more variability in opinion.
That’s how I see it, but I’m not Apple and I don’t think you are, so neither of us really know for sure as we don’t have the numbers.
The only group I’ve come across that seems to relatively consistently like the Touch Bar are Final Cut users. Not every Final Cut user but more than others.
Actually, the point I’ve been making in this thread is not even Apple truly took it seriously.
As someone else here said, if Apple was truly serious about the Touch Bar, they’d have it in their standalone keyboards, but they don’t, not even as an option for the Mac Pro or previous iMac Pro.
It does make me chuckle ... more people on a forum say they dislike the Touch Bar than actively say they like it, and that means "the majority" hate the Touch Bar
Switch to another forum where people say they have yellow iphone screens, jelly scroll on the Mini 6, blooming on mini-LED iPads, and those who are being vocal "are a minority, because people only go onto forums to complain, and most people wouldn't notice the 'issue'"
An all-touch input modality works, where you're always seeing what you're interacting with. A touch input separate from the main display, where you have to look down to interact with is ergonomic kryptonite.
I'd be happier if Apple just allowed for a fully programmable keyboard (https://github.com/qmk)... Do that, and you can get rid of the function keys (even the number row), as there'd be other keystrokes to get at them.
When typing, I'd rather keep my fingers from traveling more than one space away from where they're resting on home row keys. That way, I don't have to look at them.
When typing, I'd rather keep my fingers from traveling more than one space away from where they're resting on home row keys. That way, I don't have to look at them.
Betamax was technically better in every way to VHS..... like the touchbar?
Well, the shame is on the 3rd party developers. Programming for the Touch Bar is well documented, yet only a few applications ever made real use of it.
I think the key issue is that most people look at their screen, not their keyboard. So, whatever feature you have there, it's not in focus.
In the end, most people don't use it for more than controlling your media options, which made it kind of pointless.
I personally never had a problem with the half sized function keys. They were very easy to feel without looking -- but I am not the best touch typist. Going full sized I supposed is preferred by most professionals so I am fine with the change. I guess I do not really care -- as long as physical keys (either full or half sized) are present I am happy.