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Full Video iPod in 2007 and Mac Tablet in 2008?
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I don't know about everyone else, but i have a macbook 1.83ghz 60GB HD, and if the new widescreen iPod's are 80gig and 100gig, i am stuck with at least 20gigs i wont' be using... i would love to see an update to the iPod manager that would let you load movies onto your iPod, and delete them from your HD for space purposes, and if you ever needed the file again could pull them off your iPod. 80gigs is a lot for media on a computer, and i would love to see more ability to pull your media off an iPod as well.
I don't know about everyone else, but i have a macbook 1.83ghz 60GB HD, and if the new widescreen iPod's are 80gig and 100gig, i am stuck with at least 20gigs i wont' be using... i would love to see an update to the iPod manager that would let you load movies onto your iPod, and delete them from your HD for space purposes, and if you ever needed the file again could pull them off your iPod. 80gigs is a lot for media on a computer, and i would love to see more ability to pull your media off an iPod as well.
For me, the small amount of storage in the iPhone is reason enough for me to opt for an HDD based widescreen iPod. Most of us already have a cellphone and an iPod anyway so if it weren't for the price, I would probably get both. (Some people have a big ipod and a nano, right?) At this point, I think the widescreen iPod would serve me better. I have a hard time trusting anything from apple that is revision A. They're really good at working the kinks out of things and coming out with a really incredible Rev. B product. The market overlap that was discussed earlier (58 million cingular subscribers vs 100 million ipod owners) is also a good point. What I'm getting at is that I'm going to keep deluding myself into believing a widescreen iPod will be released before the iPhone in june. I can't upgrade my phone until september anyway... stupid cingular.
Not sure I agree.
I think they have to keep the 2 lines very separate.
The capacity is the big issue.....plus video capabilities.
Will one line hurt the other.
Hmmmmm....I doubt it.
I want a large capacity audio and sometimes video player.
But I also want a phone like the iPhone.
I get the impression there are alot of people of a similar mind.
Which comes first .....doesn't matter....to me at least.
just bring em on.....quick
I see a much larger market for a full-screen video iPod, than the iPhone.
For me, I'm interested in a full-screen music/photo/video iPod, big capacity (100+Gb) and a separate 'simple' small phone, with bluetooth contacts, calendar sync, with lots of battery life and simple controls... in a flip design, with no antenna to stick you one in the groin!
For me, I'm interested in a full-screen music/photo/video iPod, big capacity (100+Gb) and a separate 'simple' small phone, with bluetooth contacts, calendar sync, with lots of battery life and simple controls... in a flip design, with no antenna to stick you one in the groin!
I agree with you on the iPod, but I'm on the fence on the Tablet, as I think Multi-touch might just be the thing that can make tablets work, if they can keep the cost under $1500.
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Note that this echoes my observation from the quarterly results call yesterday (https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/3262464/):
Of course, most of us expected the iPhone interface to get into iPods sooner or later. The important bit here and from the results call is that it is likely to happen before the iPhone launch in June!
Me said:
Of course, most of us expected the iPhone interface to get into iPods sooner or later. The important bit here and from the results call is that it is likely to happen before the iPhone launch in June!
The Future Is All Wide All The Time 640 x 360 - One Third HD Is The Right Way To Go
Crippling the wide display the way you suggest is to maintain the legacy display system instead of moving into the current state-of-the-art and future always widescreen system. Legacy 4x3 will still be displayed 50% larger than it is on the current Video iPod's 320x240 screen.
Because, in future, nothing will be 4x3 and all will be 16x9. So the correct path is to provide a one third the 1920 x 1080 HDTV res 640x360 and have 4x3 appear 480 wide by 360 high with vertical side bars just as it does on all HDTV monitors today.
Crippling the wide display the way you suggest is to maintain the legacy display system instead of moving into the current state-of-the-art and future always widescreen system. Legacy 4x3 will still be displayed 50% larger than it is on the current Video iPod's 320x240 screen.Fingerprints concern me with the touch screen. I'd hate to have to look through fingerprints.
The touch screen video ipod sounds real cool. I'm told by hubby that if one does come out in the spring I can get one. I don't have a video ipod yet. I still have my 20 gig 3G iPod. I don't know of anyone that has that one anymore. I had a new hd and new battery put in it and it works great. I also have the 1Gen shuffle and the 2Gen Nano. I bought hubby the 2Gen shuffle and case for Christmas. He loves it.
Good explanation. Half of 720p too, and consistent with the widescreen content currently on iTMS. And even still higher resolution for 4:3 than the iPhone would be.
Sold.
Thought the could still go with a 16:10 screen like all recent Macs. 640x400. Giving a good compromise between 4:3 and 16:9.
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Walking the dog this morning I realized why I would be apprehensive to buy a touchscreen-only iPod. It was freezing out, I was wearing gloves and was able to reach into my pocket, click through an album to the song I wanted and raise the volume - all without looking at the iPod. I really hope Apple continues to sell an iPod (other than the shuffle) that I don't need to look at to find a song.
i have a nice Newton sticker waiting to go on the back of it
Myself, and my Newton MP 130 sitting next to me, think that is VERY COOL!
Always...
As a feature, I find this highly unecessary.
In the same way that I can often make phone calls by knowing the order of buttons to push without looking at my phone, i will happily give up that ridiculous milisecond / microeffort saving technique for a frigging iPhone.
Have you ever tried typing on a Treo or Blackberry while wearing gloves?
Edit: Actually...
Anyway, you just need a pair of gloves designed to allow the fingertips to be flipped back.
Xmas 07
I think the wide screen video ipod will be released around Sep/Oct 07 in time to be the big seller for Xmas. There's no point releasing it before the iphone. Apple will first want to get as many people as they can who want a wide screen ipod to buy an iphone instead.
Later on they will release the ipod.
I think the wide screen video ipod will be released around Sep/Oct 07 in time to be the big seller for Xmas. There's no point releasing it before the iphone. Apple will first want to get as many people as they can who want a wide screen ipod to buy an iphone instead.
Later on they will release the ipod.
This is really disappointing.
I was hoping for a touchscreen iPod at MacWorld, as my 30GB 5G iPod is now full to the brim and I need a new one to hold all my music and to fit my movies on, since I've started ripping my DVDs to my hard drive (which is not illegal where I live as far as I know, but I paid for them and the law can get stuffed in any case).
So I bought a PSP the other day. I got a really good deal: got the Giga pack for less than people are paying for the value pack.
And now this.
Well... at least I can play Grand Theft Auto and Winning Eleven 10 on it.
I think the full-screen iPod will come sooner than the iPhone. The market is different. As others have suggested, the full-screen iPod will differ from the iPhone in that it will have no phone, no WiFi, no camera, up to 120 GB capacity, and size comparable to the current video iPods.
Why release before the iPhone?
1. The technology exists now and does not require the long FCC approval process that the iPhone must go through.
2. The Zune has gained market share and now accounts for 20% of HD-based MP3 player sales. A full-screen iPod with boosted capacity would destroy the Zune.
3. SJ likes to stay in the spotlight. Apple needs something between the release of Leopard and the iPhone to keep in the tech headlines.
4. It's already been 4 months since the last iPod update, and the average period between updates is 5 months. So the full-screen iPod may come out even before Leopard.