Fully Functional iPhone 7 Lightning EarPods Shown Off in New Video

[dennysanders]

Out of curiosity, how would you recharge? Obviously not always will you want the ear phones in the same time as power and i assume a docking station charges.

how about a splitter?

 

[sidewinder3000]

Can't Innovate my....
Guys, the Microsoft Surface Book and Surface Pro 4 are available to buy, for nearly a year already.
Samsung Note 7 has been announced with more features than anything Apple could ever throw at the iPhone 7 would ever be (audio jack AND waterproofing? Iris scanning?).
Say what you want with the competition but you can't say there aren't beautiful and functional products that aren't Apple out there. Sad to say, but they just aren't product leaders anymore.

Everyone has a different view of what leadership is. Many value specs, and style-over-substance. Apple, and Apple users, value functional specs and form-follows-function design. To me, that is leadership.

 

[melendezest]

What benefit is there to remove the damn audio jack?!?!

And when I say "benefit", I mean benefit to users. Not Apple.

What exactly is improved by doing this?

It's REALLY infuriating to see a company's product quality go downhill because of BONEHEADED, bean-counter decisions such as removing the iPod audio jack (yes, I said iPod).

People, please, SKIP THIS NEXT CYCLE. Just. Resist. The. Urge.

Only if consumers hurt Apple where it counts (the iPhone) will the BS stop.

THE EMPEROR IS F^$^%ING NAKED.

 

[lordofthereef]

I have probably 15 Apple lightning cables and have had no issues, so it's hard for me to comment. But if they were still making phones with the 30 pin connector I would be absolutely horrified. The improved connector is enough for me.

One peripheral that uses Lighning well is the Apple Pencil. And lightning earbuds will have a built-in power supply, so they can finally add noise cancellation to the mic. I imagine that there could be some other interesting possibilities down the road if they add a Lightning port to Macs, which could use a Lightning to lightning cable, but that's pure speculation.

I guess I was looking for actual features of the port that make it superior to its predecessor aside from just its size. I can respect you like it but I just haven't seen how my phone is better off than it was before it. Your stance is perfectly fine. Unfortunately it doesn't answer my question.

I'll give you a little insight as to what made ditching the 30 pin much easier for me, though.

- larger screen. The iPhone 5 introduced a larger screen, which is down thing I've long wanted. Ultimately I am now on plus

- LTE is pretty self explanatory. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better overall connectivity.

- battery was given a boost over previous models.


So despite the fact that I gave up a 30 pin for lightning, and having to either buy adapters or peripherals, I was given all of the above. Afaik we might get a better camera this go around. Hence my extreme reservations.

 

[sidewinder3000]

Uh huh. Tell that to the Wall Street suits that Apple is bending over backwards to please every quarter.

I don't need to. Apple already does.

And FTR, Apple bows and scrapes to Wall Street less than any mega corporation I know.

 

[lordofthereef]

Everyone has a different view of what leadership is. Many value specs, and style-over-substance. Apple, and Apple users, value functional specs and form-follows-function design. To me, that is leadership.

Would you say that the current iteration of the surface is not form follows function? I feel like Microsoft nailed it with this product, but it took them a few years.

 

[MH01]

Guy doing the video needs to do this research, his pros/cons are way off. Quality of audio will probably be worse, cause I doubt the earbuds dac will be anywhere the same quality as offered in the iPhone 6

 

[manu chao]

I'm OK with 32, better with 64. 16 is a joke, with 4K video recording. I've paid to go up 1 level of storage in the past, because it fit my usage. If I had to walk around with and lose, an external adapter to add more storage, I would have been equally upset about it. But since it was built in, it was a meh decision. But now we DO have to walk around with and lose adapters, so it's a not a meh decision, it's a customer hostile decision*.






* not to everyone, obviously. The smug, and those who have transitioned to charging bluetooth headphones every night, either don't care, or are excited at the thought of others being upset.

If one only uses one pair of headphones, I am not sure why loosing the adaptor should be any concern. It'll be permanently connected to the headphones. And the 3.5 mm plug is quite strong and won't slip out out easily.

And I don't disagree that this is a somewhat customer hostile move (because the benefits of maybe a very slightly larger battery and/or slightly better speaker sound by putting in a second speaker will for the people needing an adaptor not outweigh the downsides). But so are Apple's profit margins.

 

[organerito]

Anybody who cares about audio would not see bluetooth as an "upgrade" over great wired headphones.

While a dongle may be an option, I still do not see any solution for charging+listening. And dongles are simply ****** ways of getting me to pay an extra $29.95 to use my phone how I want to use it (and have been using it.)

I agree.
I don't have the fanciest earplugs but my Shure SE535 are very good. I think the 6S will be my last iPhone. I just have to decide between Galaxy S7 or Note 7.

 

[Larry The L]

Bad idea to remove the ubiquitous 3.5mm audio jack that works on laptops, desktops, automobiles, music players, mobile phones, even the in-seat audio connections on airlines.

Millions of people have spent good money on high quality headphones and earbuds that use the 3.5mm standard to be left out in the cold.

I'm very sure that apple will include a very small 3.5 mm to lightening adapter with every iphone 7.

 

[sidewinder3000]

If I am forced to use an adapter, I would rather go with a standard connector and a pocket sized external amp.
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Funny you should say that: http://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name

I read that article. When it came out. I agree that thin fonts are a precious Jony Ives obsession, and Apple is clearly rolling that back with a vengeance in iOS 10. But what about "good design eliminates the unnecessary" does that article actually refute? Nothing. It doesn't. By your logic, adding ports would be good design.

Also, quoting articles instead of making points yourself is a cop out. Just sayin.
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Changed that for you. I totally agree!

Ha! No, I think I had it right be first time.
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And adds an adapter to replace what was there before? Is that good design?

The adapter is purely transitional, for a small percentage of users. 80% of iPhone 7 users will be using Lightning or Bluetooth for audio from the get go.

 

[konqueror4u]

So I will not be able to use my $400 headphones on iPhone 7. That is a pretty serious issue to me and quality on bluetooth audio just sucks. I cannot charge my phone and at the same time listen music on my iphone 7 how sad I am loosing an important multitasking feature of my iphone. Thats ridiculous from Apple. I hate Android but Android looks to be future with this kind of stupid innovations from Apple.

 

[sidewinder3000]

You missed my drug pusher reference. I was making a joke. Guess I did a bad job!

No, I got it!

 

[MH01]

The adapter is purely transitional, for a small percentage of users. 80% of iPhone 7 users will be using Lightning or Bluetooth for audio from the get go.

It will not be transitional for many, anyone with quality headphones will continue to use 3.5mm for a long time. No one is buying another set of quality headphones to get a lighting port and fixed DAC . Fixed DAC in quality heaphones is a killer

 

[sidewinder3000]

No they are not legitimate parallels. That has been established in almost every single thread by competent and experienced IT and audio professionals and ignored by those who don't even use the jack.

Guess we disagree. There are always some people who stomp & shout and make a big kerfluffle when standards change, and then the rest of us move on.

Also, if you hang out in these forums long enough you'll come to see that experienced IT professionals often are just as wrong as well educated general consumers, so claims like the one you made are specious.

 

[wozmatic]

LMAO at "Lossless digital sounds"

EVERYONE LISTENS TO MP3's

Take this test and get back to us about how lossless matters....

http://mp3ornot.com/

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[lordofthereef]

The adapter is purely transitional, for a small percentage of users. 80% of iPhone 7 users will be using Lightning or Bluetooth for audio from the get go.

I don't mean to sound pedantic but I've seen a few folks make these assertions now. Is this number verifiable somewhere? Is it just an educated guess on your part? I guess I just don't see how you are so sure that most folks willeither use Bluetooth or whatever is packaged with their phone.

Maybe I just haven't studied the market (and others have), so I'm just totally off base.

 

[SBlue1]

What benefit is there to remove the damn audio jack?!?!

And when I say "benefit", I mean benefit to users. Not Apple.

What exactly is improved by doing this?

It's REALLY infuriating to see a company's product quality go downhill because of BONEHEADED, bean-counter decisions such as removing the iPod audio jack (yes, I said iPod).

People, please, SKIP THIS NEXT CYCLE. Just. Resist. The. Urge.

Only if consumers hurt Apple where it counts (the iPhone) will the BS stop.

THE EMPEROR IS F^$^%ING NAKED.

I hope people boo at Tim when he talks about removing the audio jack at the keynote. Please, someone with balls boo him!

 

[Dmunjal]

Yeah right, another ridiculous downfall post. Selling 50, 60, 70 , 80 million of a product is by no means a downfall. Can't wait to see Samsung copy the Lightning connector for the earphones. This same nonsense happened when Apple went from 30 pin to lightning. Doom and gloom, end of Apple. There will be an adapter for all the legacy headphones. And a couple phones down the line this will be a dead topic just like the 30 pin connector is a dead topic. At some point the cable connections will be a thing of the past. If it's such a burden for you just don't buy the iPhone. Plenty of other choices out there.

Here's some facts:

Apple iPhone sales are declining.
Samsung sales are increasing.
All other manufacturers, including Samsung, are moving to USB-c not Lightning.

What some are saying is that Apple should innovate instead of trying to make thinner phones that milk people on expensive adaptors.

Wireless is the future no doubt. Other manufacturers are offering wireless charging, where is Apple? You have to use a cable.

 

[nope7308]

Yes because a Multi-Billion Dollar Company haven't thought about it at all. I bet there's been no research into the effect replacing the audio jack will have and the advantages to gain.

Do you still play records and watch VHS?

I have a turntable, 3 VCRs, and a mechanical watch. I still prefer them to all modern "conveniences", and I'm not even the guy you were responding to!

You see, when something is designed properly the first time -- with both form and function in mind -- it typically stands the test of time. Proprietary nonsense without a purpose typically does not. Just look at what happened to SONY after the success of the walkman...

Big companies are still liable to make stupid decisions. Windows 8, anyone?

P.S. VCRs are obsolete like all hell, but movies are now FREE. All classics, too

 

[Michael Goff]

What benefit is there to remove the damn audio jack?!?!

And when I say "benefit", I mean benefit to users. Not Apple.

What exactly is improved by doing this?

It's REALLY infuriating to see a company's product quality go downhill because of BONEHEADED, bean-counter decisions such as removing the iPod audio jack (yes, I said iPod).

People, please, SKIP THIS NEXT CYCLE. Just. Resist. The. Urge.

Only if consumers hurt Apple where it counts (the iPhone) will the BS stop.

THE EMPEROR IS F^$^%ING NAKED.

Why would I skip a phone on the basis of something that doesn't affect me?

 

[MH01]

Why would I skip a phone on the basis of something that doesn't affect me?

Can i turn that around what makes the 7 from the rumours so far an upgrade not to skip? The killer feature ? Camera ?

 

[shanson27]

So which one should be the standard, with lightning, or USB type C ?

 

[Count Blah]

If one only uses one pair of headphones, I am not sure why loosing the adaptor should be any concern. It'll be permanently connected to the headphones. And the 3.5 mm plug is quite strong and won't slip out out easily.

And I don't disagree that this is a somewhat customer hostile move (because the benefits of maybe a very slightly larger battery and/or slightly better speaker sound by putting in a second speaker will for the people needing an adaptor not outweigh the downsides). But so are Apple's profit margins.

And really, that's all that matters in the end. Customer experience* be damned.








* for a non-insignificant number

 

[Michael Goff]

Can i turn that around what makes the 7 from the rumours so far an upgrade not to skip? The killer feature ? Camera ?

I already told my little sister she's getting my iPhone for Christmas. Not going back on that. So I'm going to need a new phone anyway.