Fusionwerkz Raw - latest info

[Rooskibar03]

UFC. What do you live next store to the guy? Still waiting on mine, hoping the mailman is nice to me today.

Lots of new toys coming over the next few days, including several cases..

 

[ufcfighter]

No man he is along ways from me but he always ships stuff out fast and I usually get it within 2 days. I get my new atomic hybrids tomorrow so I have several coming too. But I am pretty happy with this one to be honest. Like I said, tomorrow I will sit down and review all 3 side by side and be completely honest and supply pictures and all but this one is performing pretty damn good, I know that. We will have to see how the Atomic does.

UFC. What do you live next store to the guy? Still waiting on mine, hoping the mailman is nice to me today.

Lots of new toys coming over the next few days, including several cases..

 

[chris975d]

Here are some pics of the new Burnt Orange that I just received today. The anodizing is ALOT better than the previous two I had. I have performed lots of tests already but I am going to wait until tomorrow so I can post the results of my Raw vs. Vapor vs. Hybrid Element all together. But so far I am very impressed with this new case compared to the other two I had. Its looks WAY better and performs better also. Anyways, here are some pics,

This picture came out awesome, it really shows the most accurate color and details of the case. Some of you may have heard me say this before but I am a Orange freak so to me this case looks awesome.

Got mine earlier this morning as well, and was coming here to post pics for you guys, but you've beat me to it! VERY glad to hear that you like it, and I love mine as well. He has yellow coming out in the next few weeks, and since yellow is one of my favorite colors, I'm definitely going to have to pick one of those up as well! And this orange one is performing even slightly better than even my gunmetal version. I notice that he's added even more felt at the corners of the case, completely insulating the antenna from the case with the thick felt he uses. I installed my case in a very bad signal area near work, and before I installed (bare iPhone), my reception was -103dB. After install (I sat there for 10 minutes), my reception was....-103dB. No change whatsoever in reception with the case installed.

 

[ufcfighter]

Got mine earlier this morning as well, and was coming here to post pics for you guys, but you've beat me to it! VERY glad to hear that you like it, and I love mine as well. He has yellow coming out in the next few weeks, and since yellow is one of my favorite colors, I'm definitely going to have to pick one of those up as well! And this orange one is performing even slightly better than even my gunmetal version. I notice that he's added even more felt at the corners of the case, completely insulating the antenna from the case with the thick felt he uses. I installed my case in a very bad signal area near work, and before I installed (bare iPhone), my reception was -103dB. After install (I sat there for 10 minutes), my reception was....-103dB. No change whatsoever in reception with the case installed.

Post up your pics, my camera sucks. I just can't do that case justice except for the outside picture. Its a pretty awesome looking case and color for sure.

 

[chris975d]

Post up your pics, my camera sucks. I just can't do that case justice except for the outside picture. Its a pretty awesome looking case and color for sure.

Let me get to my home computer so that I can watermark them. After that last issue I had with the fly by night website ripping off my gunmetal review, pics and all, I'm not posting anything anymore without watermarks!

 

[Sixth Street]

I also received my orange today (I was the one asking for orange on his twitter) so pretty excited.

Initial thoughts on the quality is that is a superbly made case. I don't have anything to benchmark against, but the feel of the case is luxurious. Anodizing looks great and uniform. It surprisingly added a lot of bulk to the phone. I compared to my wife's phone which is cased in a cheap .99 TPU case from eBay and my phone with the fusionwerkz case was thicker, wider, and longer. Not to say it's a bad thing, but just an observation.

It's going to take getting some use to the relatively sharp edges. I have a front PowerSupport clear and a bodyguardz (zagg type) on the back, as well as a lucky labs spectra wrap on the sides. The fusionwerkz seemed to bow ever so slightly if I tightened the screws all the way so I just undid them just a hair to relieve the bowing. Didn't seem to make the fit any less secure.

The case does lift the PowerSupport film a bit on two corners, but I think I can re-position the phone in the case to get rid of it. I don't think that will be an issue.

As far as degradation of the radios, I get extremely poor service at home, anywhere between -95 to -113 depending on where in the house I am, and found that the fusionwerkz raw did not degrade the signal at all. I think this may be due to the fact I have the lucky labs on. I also noticed that some of the people who said there was on impact on signal with the fusionwerkz also had the lucky labs, versus those that did not, so it may be a factor.

I tried to get a GPS lock inside the house, and it was not in the ballpark compared to without the case on. I will do some GPS testing with the fusionwerkz on in the next couple of days and post again.

Anyways, I just wanted to post my initial thoughts. It may be rambling, but hopefully someone finds it useful.

 

[White/Rhino]

I sold my blue and ordered some orange. Not that I didn't like the blue. I like the colour of money more : )

 

[reeco]

I sold my blue and ordered some orange. Not that I didn't like the blue. I like the colour of money more : )

The orange one does look pretty sick, got the silver 1. But might order on orange now!

 

[Gkf9]

Well got mine yesterday here in the UK, after being stung for a further £21.50 import duty and clearance fee ( whatever that is ) as well as the £18 to have it delivered to the uk off Fusionwerkz ... So in total £40 ish for it to be delivered in total.... More than the case it self.

First impressions, love the tin box and pouch, very well presented. But don't know if I'm actually to keen on the case. I've got protecters on back and front, this makes the case bow in the middle, probaly fine if you've no protectors on.

Then it's started to peel my screen protector, tried to repostion the case but no joy.

Sometimes find it hard to press anything on screen that's in the corners, because the case over laps.

I have vapour case and have had no problems, so might because I'm use to the look and feel of the vapour. The Raw is a lovely piece of engineering no doubting that...But don't know if it's for me?

Might try give it ago for a while.

 

[cmoore49]

Fusionwerkz for sale

I just received my gunmetal fusionwerkz and I have decided it's not what I was looking for. After following this thread since it's inception I was hoping this might be my last case.

 

[reeco]

I'm really happy with mine, but really want an element case in all silver aswell.

 

[cmoore49]

Sorry, didn't know there was a marketplace.
I have searched but can't seem to find it. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

 

[maverick86]

Sorry, didn't know there was a marketplace.
I have searched but can't seem to find it. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

You have to have a certain number of posts to see it (I forget the exact number)

 

[White/Rhino]

Wow. I just got my orange Fusionwerkz. I gotta say. It looks fantastic! I'm using it with an orange lucky labs spectra and I'll post some pics here shortly if anybody still cares. Lol. I think everyone is now focused on what Santa is bringing them for Christmas. Where did ya all go. I still need to rap with the community.
Cheers.

 

[chris975d]

Wow. I just got my orange Fusionwerkz. I gotta say. It looks fantastic! I'm using it with an orange lucky labs spectra and I'll post some pics here shortly if anybody still cares. Lol. I think everyone is now focused on what Santa is bringing them for Christmas. Where did ya all go. I still need to rap with the community.
Cheers.

We're still here! Lol. Most people have been occupied with that damn Atomic hybrid thingy, as thats the new flavor of the week. I haven't jumped on that bandwagon yet. How are you liking the Raw? Still performing ok?

 

[glen e]

We're still here! Lol. Most people have been occupied with that damn Atomic hybrid thingy, as thats the new flavor of the week. I haven't jumped on that bandwagon yet. How are you liking the Raw? Still performing ok?

got a fusion for sale on ebay - the reason is, it cuts into my hand on long calls and still degrades the signal even with the open sides..the reason the "damn atomic" is the "flavor of the week" is it flat works, pure and simple, better than any alum case. End of story.

 

[chris975d]

got a fusion for sale on ebay - the reason is, it cuts into my hand on long calls and still degrades the signal even with the open sides..the reason the "damn atomic" is the "flavor of the week" is it flat works, pure and simple, better than any alum case. End of story.

Lol. I understand that it works. It should. All plastic bumpers work, and delrin is more or less a plastic (well...more in common with nylon, but still...). I've had some experience working with delrin in my father's shop before he retired, so I have lots of reservations about using a material that is known for having little impact resistance as a case for my phone. Much less paying $80 for said case, when it's not that expensive to use. Not when bought in large quantities, anyway. Unless the price of it has shot through the roof in the last 5 years or so.

 

[reeco]

Wow. I just got my orange Fusionwerkz. I gotta say. It looks fantastic! I'm using it with an orange lucky labs spectra and I'll post some pics here shortly if anybody still cares. Lol. I think everyone is now focused on what Santa is bringing them for Christmas. Where did ya all go. I still need to rap with the community.
Cheers.

I'm interested, love my gunmetal fusionwerkz. Might order another.

 

[glen e]

Lol. I understand that it works. It should. All plastic bumpers work, and delrin is more or less a plastic (well...more in common with nylon, but still...). I've had some experience working with delrin in my father's shop before he retired, so I have lots of reservations about using a material that is known for having little impact resistance as a case for my phone. Much less paying $80 for said case, when it's not that expensive to use. Not when bought in large quantities, anyway. Unless the price of it has shot through the roof in the last 5 years or so.

understood - and I'm not an atomic cheerleader - had an original alum one and it was the worst of any of them. As has been said before, some type of composite is the answer to signal loss - now if it's looks and I'm in a strong area, I'll switch to the vapor red frost for the day, for the best looking case avail , IMO...but If I hand the atomic to anyone except us fanatics here, they think the delrin is metal. At least the black one.

 

[ufcfighter]

Lol. I understand that it works. It should. All plastic bumpers work, and delrin is more or less a plastic (well...more in common with nylon, but still...). I've had some experience working with delrin in my father's shop before he retired, so I have lots of reservations about using a material that is known for having little impact resistance as a case for my phone. Much less paying $80 for said case, when it's not that expensive to use. Not when bought in large quantities, anyway. Unless the price of it has shot through the roof in the last 5 years or so.

I don't understand how you think the Raw would do less damage to the phone if dropped than the Atomic. The sits on the glass, so that is almost a guarantee that it will break, I dropped my Atomic onto Carpet from several feet and it did fine. To be honest with you, I would feel more comfortable dropping mine with the Atomic than the raw just for the simple matter that I think the raw would break the glass everytime. I am not an expert in these things and no way I will volunteer but I just don't know if I but your reasoning about falls in this case. And after our little talk the other day, I looked up the prices of delrin at the particular moment and they were actually higher than aluminum so it's not like they are over charging you, I think its more of them trying to make SOME money on the things. Ok, i will get out of your thread now. Didn't mean to interrupt anything over here, the people at raw are good people with good customer service, no question.

 

[ufcfighter]

Lol. I understand that it works. It should. All plastic bumpers work, and delrin is more or less a plastic (well...more in common with nylon, but still...). I've had some experience working with delrin in my father's shop before he retired, so I have lots of reservations about using a material that is known for having little impact resistance as a case for my phone. Much less paying $80 for said case, when it's not that expensive to use. Not when bought in large quantities, anyway. Unless the price of it has shot through the roof in the last 5 years or so.

And also the price, how much is the raw? And how much is the Atomic? Now who is really getting the better end of the deal, Atomic of Fusion? Honestly man, the Raw is four little pieces of aluminum that I bet you he doesn't have 10 bucks in. I bet Atomic has that is their cap by itself or close to it. I know you like Fusion and that's fine. But money wise, the Atomic costs alot more to produce than the Raw. But yet they are close to the same price, so who is really ripping people off or giving a better deal? The Raw comes to over 70 dollars and the Atomic is 80. Who is making more profit? Pretty obvious!

 

[NancyZ]

And also the price, how much is the raw? And how much is the Atomic? Now who is really getting the better end of the deal, Atomic of Fusion? Honestly man, the Raw is four little pieces of aluminum that I bet you he doesn't have 10 bucks in. I bet Atomic has that is their cap by itself or close to it. I know you like Fusion and that's fine. But money wise, the Atomic costs alot more to produce than the Raw. But yet they are close to the same price, so who is really ripping people off or giving a better deal? The Raw comes to over 70 dollars and the Atomic is 80. Who is making more profit? Pretty obvious!

True, my company mills fly fishing reels and equipment for 30 years, and we use both 6061aluminum and delrin. Delrin is 3 x more expensive and actualy harder to cut than the aluminum becuse its slippery. We do use it for joints, gaskets, seals, etc because its stronger and more reliable than aluminum. We anodzie the aluminum and is. I would bet any money you drop both phones from a 5' drop on the corner on marble or cement floor, the delrin would absorb the shock much more than aluminum.

As far as cost, a billet sheet of 2' x 4' is about $60.00 as opposed to $190 for Delrin.






Mark

 

[chris975d]

True, my company mills fly fishing reels and equipment for 30 years, and we use both 6061aluminum and delrin. Delrin is 3 x more expensive and actualy harder to cut than the aluminum becuse its slippery. We do use it for joints, gaskets, seals, etc because its stronger and more reliable than aluminum. We anodzie the aluminum and is. I would bet any money you drop both phones from a 5' drop on the corner on marble or cement floor, the delrin would absorb the shock much more than aluminum.



As far as cost, a billet sheet of 2' x 4' is about $60.00 as opposed to $190 for Delrin.
Mark

That's expensive as hell for delrin! I just talked to my father earlier (after my last post), to get a comparison on what they used to pay for delrin (again, it's been about 5 years ago since he retired). They paid about 3/4ths of the price for delrin that they did for aluminum. Maybe being a Cisco company they bought in large enough quantities that it was cheaper. I'm not sure on that. All I know is that any time they would prototype a part, they would make the prototype typically in the cheaper delrin to test fit, before finalizing a design and having it made from aluminum. I would even get to go in the shop with him sometimes and practice milling with it. And delrin is a lot more abrasive resistant than aluminum, that is why it's used for seals, joints, etc. Lots of automotive racing bushings and mounts are made from it because of this reason. It's not very shock absorbent however, as anyone who has put delrin bushings and transmission/engine mounts in an car can tell you (I have racing delrin engine and transmission mounts installed on my MazdaSpeed 6, and the entire car vibrates at idle because of this---a known effect before you do it, but the increased rigidity helps with torque transfer to the ground). But if you look at it's qualities/properties, it's listed as not very impact resistant, especially when thin.

And also the price, how much is the raw? And how much is the Atomic? Now who is really getting the better end of the deal, Atomic of Fusion? Honestly man, the Raw is four little pieces of aluminum that I bet you he doesn't have 10 bucks in. I bet Atomic has that is their cap by itself or close to it. I know you like Fusion and that's fine. But money wise, the Atomic costs alot more to produce than the Raw. But yet they are close to the same price, so who is really ripping people off or giving a better deal? The Raw comes to over 70 dollars and the Atomic is 80. Who is making more profit? Pretty obvious!

What did you pay for your RAW? I paid $50 for mine, which was the going rate when purchased.

And to point out how little impact resistance delrin has, look at this chart (below) from a distributor of delrin. It shows that black delrin is about 6 times less impact resistant than standard polycarbonate (cases like the Incase Slider are made of this..it's also the clear back of cases like the Griffin Reveal).

 

[Lostsol]

For those that completed their preorder: You did pay a total of $49.95 with no shipping correct? I waited for the new "steel silver" and got my preorder confirmation today. There is a $16 coupon code to bring price to $49.99 but I think shipping is being charged (4.95). I didn't finish checkout so I could get this straight. Any help?

 

[NancyZ]

That's expensive as hell for delrin! I just talked to my father earlier (after my last post), to get a comparison on what they used to pay for delrin (again, it's been about 5 years ago since he retired). They paid about 3/4ths of the price for delrin that they did for aluminum. Maybe being a Cisco company they bought in large enough quantities that it was cheaper. I'm not sure on that. All I know is that any time they would prototype a part, they would make the prototype typically in the cheaper delrin to test fit, before finalizing a design and having it made from aluminum. I would even get to go in the shop with him sometimes and practice milling with it. And delrin is a lot more abrasive resistant than aluminum, that is why it's used for seals, joints, etc. Lots of automotive racing bushings and mounts are made from it because of this reason. It's not very shock absorbent however, as anyone who has put delrin bushings and transmission/engine mounts in an car can tell you (I have racing delrin engine and transmission mounts installed on my MazdaSpeed 6, and the entire car vibrates at idle because of this---a known effect before you do it, but the increased rigidity helps with torque transfer to the ground). But if you look at it's qualities/properties, it's listed as not very impact resistant, especially when thin.

Delrin is an acetal resin. It is very strong, stiff, yet has dimensional stability. It has low wear and low friction which is what you want as opposed to even silicone offered on most cases. I dont think otter or other cases use delrin due to the cost involved.