Oh yeah. I was wondering what superlative was higher than "Max".
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If somehow macOS has larger software library than on X86 then maybe. Otherwise, Mac is still just going to be creativity industry’s go-to choice plus a few other niches here and there.
We will see in next year or so.
It will defiantly be interesting to see just how far they can take their technology, and how long they can stay ahead of the Windows space. Intel is moving into efficiency cores with I think their upcoming processor but who knows if that will be able to compete with what Apple has already shipped.
Linus speculated that their chips would be good enough that there would be one more update of the intel Mac Pro. Though how well Apple is able to scale M1 to a desktop chip will probably dictate what happens there. There is still enough pro software plugins slacking off that Apple Silicon transition though that keeping the intel Mac Pro around a bit longer could be ideal even if it risks rewarding software developers for being late to the game.
Linus speculated that their chips would be good enough that there would be one more update of the intel Mac Pro. Though how well Apple is able to scale M1 to a desktop chip will probably dictate what happens there. There is still enough pro software plugins slacking off that Apple Silicon transition though that keeping the intel Mac Pro around a bit longer could be ideal even if it risks rewarding software developers for being late to the game.
Do you REALLY think software developers can't come up with ways to use all that power?
In my experience, there is no amount of power that is ever too much for software developers.
Rather, computing power is a bottle neck that once removed or significantly eased, will usher in a new generation of apps, services, and possibly even devices.
That's the exciting part. That's where Apple is headed. LFG!
Cool, a $40 paywall to read the article...
So still multiple SoCs put together (SiP, System in Package; or MCM, Multi Chip Module)...?
You would think by the time Apple gets to a third-gen Mn Pro/Max-series SoC, they would have more cores than the rumored MCM arrays will already have...?
Yeah, I am saying MCM now instead of SiP, because that is what AMD & NVidia are moving to with their GPUs, MCMs...
That has been the rumor for awhile, dual & quad M1 Pro/Max SoCs for the Mac Pro lineup; but I think Apple just might have the M2 Pro/Max SoCs ready to preview at WWDC 2022; with M2 Pro/Max MacBook Pro laptops, Mac minis, & 27" iMacs available after an October 2022 Mac Event, and the Mac Pro lineup (Mac Pro tower, Mac Pro Cube, & possible 30" or 32" iMac Pro) available December 2022...
I don't have a use for any of this power, but it's fun time to be a tech nerd nonetheless!
Intel, x86, and Microsoft did not dominate the market because they were always faster or more economical.
In fact there have been more than one occasion where there were better, faster, cheaper alternatives and yet it barely affected them.
I am happy for Apple and want them to do well, but if you believe this will destroy Intel and "PC" then you must be new here.
Which is fine. But it ain't gonna happen unless Apple opens up. Apple will never open up again.
I'm all in for an M2 Plaid Pro Max Xtreme iMac. But only if it's notchless.
As an iOS Developer, it's frustrating that we don't get much mileage out of these new CPUs.
Swift debugging is still *excruciatingly* slow compared to Objective C, big storyboards still take over ten seconds to beach ball when you even think about them, and incremental builds (99% of my builds) are I/O bound, not CPU (this has been the case for years).
Swift debugging is still *excruciatingly* slow compared to Objective C, big storyboards still take over ten seconds to beach ball when you even think about them, and incremental builds (99% of my builds) are I/O bound, not CPU (this has been the case for years).
I believe the OP was deploying irony for comic effect...
If only someone had come up with some kind of law for the constant increase in computing power
These aren’t the chips that are in most demand. The shortages are for large legacy chips ~90nm controller and timing chips, etc. Also raw materials like aluminum.
With Intel apparently also planning on using n3 we will see what happens
TSMC Confirms 3nm Delay: What This Means For TSM Stock
TSMC has finally confirmed that the shifted N3 cadence is due to a delay. This reduces TSMC’s competitiveness against Samsung and Intel. Read more here.
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With the exception of gaming, macOS surpassed Windows a long time ago. C-level, developers, creatives, and scientists all use Mac.
With Intel apparently also planning on using n3 we will see what happens
TSMC Confirms 3nm Delay: What This Means For TSM Stock
TSMC has finally confirmed that the shifted N3 cadence is due to a delay. This reduces TSMC’s competitiveness against Samsung and Intel. Read more here.
2024.
No wait. 2025
No wait. 2026.
No wait. 2027
Sincerely, Intel.
Great.
Now get your software house in order, Apple.
All this power tethered to buggy OS releases, hidden functionality interfaces because your designers like clean screen shots, and neglected or flat-out-crappy first apps makes your silicon a Pyrrhic victory.
Now get your software house in order, Apple.
All this power tethered to buggy OS releases, hidden functionality interfaces because your designers like clean screen shots, and neglected or flat-out-crappy first apps makes your silicon a Pyrrhic victory.
It was ages ago and frankly no one really cares. Workstation users buy the 1TB or so with the machine and warranty, customers buy what they need. By the time you need more RAM there is a new CPU and other things you want/need.
The better way to look at it is in 5 years or so the baseline supported Mac will be a M1 with 8GB of ram. And the baseline supported PC will be a core i3 with 4GB of ram. If you are a developer, you will then be able to target a potential customer base with more features and expect better performance. Software may not take full advantage of it now, but the possibilities are greatly expanded for the future.
i9, yes. i5 & i7, no. AMD will need to cut prices for the 5600x & 5800x to remain competitive until Zen 3+, possibly Zen 4. Consumers win when both Intel & AMD trade blows.
That would be antimatter.
"No one will ever need more than 64k of RAM."
Note: When Gates said that, he was talking about K of RAM, not gigs.
It's not that hard to port software from one platform to another anymore.
The Intel architecture is dead. Even Intel is moving to something ARM based. There is too much overhead in supporting the CISC chips. The limiting factor on Apple's M series chips will be the PCIe bridge. If they can build the Mac Pro with PCIe expansion, it will be unstoppable. If not, I can't see them keeping the pro market.
The sooner we move away from the hobbyist roots of computing the better.
A sizable portion of Apple's existing Mac market consists of creative professionals who absolutely want/need the power offered by the M1 Pro/Max. The new MacBook Pros are absolutely overkill for casual users and even most hobbyists (hence the premium price), but that's why the MacBook Air is such a compelling value and will be even more so when it gets updated next year.