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kenaustus said:
There was a mention, I believe when Apple presented their financial results for the quarter, that the next quarter's gross margins would drop a bit because of the costs of airfreighting the new iMacs. They are coming by plane, not ship, initially and I believe that they will, like the new iPod, be available when announced, or very shortly thereafter. A week or two delay might happen if Steve J announces the new iMac on Aug 31st in Paris as Apple has said that they will be announced and will ship in September.

It was stated thata large part of Q4 shipping costs were to be the G5 iMac. As Q4 ends in September that's alot of iMacs to move between now and then or there's already alot been shipped in preparation of the launch. Either way I see it as 'all good'.
 
daveg5 said:

Google's translation page translates (well, sorta) the German on that page as follows:

In order to shorten the waiting period up to the introduction new iMac with G5-Prozessor something, we will play up to then some scenarios to the end conceivable for us. Still is not clearly, whether at the shape of the housing at all changes are intended, the generation change of G4 on G5 lets a completely new housing appear however probable. Apples new love for aluminum and not least job earlier statement that the Cube Design did not disappear yet completely in the drawer, inspired us to this variant.
 
mpw said:
It was stated thata large part of Q4 shipping costs were to be the G5 iMac. As Q4 ends in September that's alot of iMacs to move between now and then or there's already alot been shipped in preparation of the launch. Either way I see it as 'all good'.

i think apple wants to catch the very beginning of the school season and get that back to school boost which would be critical for a consumer end mac like the imac

even the G5 power mac is something some students could afford or feel the need to purchase...not too many years ago, a student would have had to shell out two grand minimum for a desktop and three grand for any laptop...when i got my laptop in 1999, it was the cheapest one available, a compaq presario listing at 1399 with the next cheapest one in the line at just under two thousand dollars...i couldn't imagine laptops, pcs or macs, ever going below that price point ;)

i hope the new imac will be priced to sell and a machine on the lowest end under 1000 dollars would be key going all the way up to 1500 dollars or so

there should be a distance between the top end imac and the lower end G5 power mac by about at least a few hundred dollars

....

here's what i envision

imac cube/tower at 999 with combo drive, single g5, 256 ram, low or mid level video card

next model up at 1199 with superdrive, 512 ram, mid level video card

top model at 1399 with superdrive, 1 gig ram, and some high end video card

and on same day, lowest end power mac reduced to 1699 with other power macs in the line taking similar reductions

...and in a few months, introduce a g5 powerbook and keep the g4 processors around for another year for incrementally faster ibooks and emacs but reduce the cost of those, too, as to cover all price points in computer hardware market from 649 all the way on up to over three grand
 
I'm as curious as anyone to see what form factor and style Apple uses for the next iMacs, but I'll admit that it doesn't affect my purchase plans. I'm buying one when they come out no matter what. And only the price vs. specs will determine which model I buy.
 
pinks said:
I recently bought a 20" Cinema Display to use with my PowerBook and would love to be able to use it with a new revision iMac (as I can't afford a PowerMac)
Me too. I will not buy a Power Mac. They're too big, bulky and expensive. I would probably buy a cheaper cube-like Mac so I could untether my PowerBook for portable use only.
 
I think Apple should make the new iMac look like the Power Mac. Only differences would be that the iMac be smaller and of course less powerful then the Power Mac.

I agree with Doctor Q that the style Apple chooses has nothing to do with me buy one or not.
 
billyboy said:
That would be a way to bridge the iPod versus Mac gap. The "feeling" that iPods are generating some Mac sales would be far easier to see if the two were bundled together.

Along with slots on the computer that made the integration "seamless".
 
BenRoethig said:
That might be close to what we get. With the cooling requiresments of the PPC970, the base is going to have to be much bigger than the current iMac.

i could picture the cube form factor but with medium speed fans so it would unfortunately be louder than g5 power mac but fortunately stay small in a cube form factor

but get the g5 chip to have a smaller micron process with lower voltage then i think you can use slow, quiet fans or no fans at all
 
BenRoethig said:
That might be close to what we get. With the cooling requiresments of the PPC970, the base is going to have to be much bigger than the current iMac.

Though with comments about the "pizza box: design, I think that we are are seeing a new separation of the eMac vs. eMac designs. I see the iMac design as being able to support the "cube" design. I see that with the lower cost of 15 to 16 inch monitors, that it is possible that the eMac goes to LCDs in the 15" and and 17" form factor. CRT's do offer the price advantage over LCD's. But not for long.

It would be nice for a fanless (or near fanless) iMac G5. Though the realities put this 6 to 12 months away.

What I see is a an iMac in the shape that was just shown, with a low noise fan. And and eMac to follow that is air-cooled with an ultra low speed fan, that includes a very low speed fan, or maybe no fan.
 
I don't see the new iMac with colors such as the ones posted. I don't think it would be such a smart idea to limit the sales of such a high end product because someone doesn't like the color (i.e., gold and green).

It's also a lot different than the iPod in the fact that it's not so much a fashion deal. Rather, no one who sees you out will see the iMac, only those that enter your house..

Eh, I'm losing my train of thought.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Though with comments about the "pizza box: design, I think that we are are seeing a new separation of the eMac vs. eMac designs. I see the iMac design as being able to support the "cube" design. I see that with the lower cost of 15 to 16 inch monitors, that it is possible that the eMac goes to LCDs in the 15" and and 17" form factor. CRT's do offer the price advantage over LCD's. But not for long.

i like that idea for adults and older school kids

but i think the crt is the durable solution for young schoolkids who want to poke and prod the screen...an lcd is just too delicate for small kids
 
Personally, I like the solution that we came up with at the MacNN forums. Keep the iMac an LCD AIO and introduce a new model based on the same chipset called the iCube (and possibly an eCube as well)
 
jefhatfield said:
but i think the crt is the durable solution for young schoolkids who want to poke and prod the screen...an lcd is just too delicate for small kids
And many internet cafes still prefer CRTs, for durability and cost reasons.
 
Sorry ... cute , but , no.

pinks said:
That really would be splendid. I recently bought a 20" Cinema Display to use with my PowerBook and would love to be able to use it with a new revision iMac (as I can't afford a PowerMac) - particularly one in those tinted aluminium cases.

The real question is over whether Apple will move away from their all-in-one design factor with the G5 iMac. Looking forward to September. :cool:

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Tinted cube with aluminum monitor just clashes too much.
Ives would die .

Gotta be all-in-one --- this looks like another tower.
 
gooddog said:
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Tinted cube with aluminum monitor just clashes too much.
Ives would die .

Gotta be all-in-one --- this looks like another tower.

how about tinted monitors to match? it would look nice that way but it may be too ambitious and some colors may not sell well and just sit idle in stores...remember the strawberry imac...those didn't seem to sell too well

with one basic color and no choices, then it's a no brainer and people who want the imac anyway will get the unit....but with color choices, some people may hold out and not buy until their color of choice is available and if one color dominates, there could be a bottleneck in shipments

but the success of the mini ipod and all its colors may have created an expectation for apple to make a similar computer with that same color spectrum
 
jefhatfield said:
how about tinted monitors to match? it would look nice that way but it may be too ambitious and some colors may not sell well and just sit idle in stores...remember the strawberry imac...those didn't seem to sell too well

with one basic color and no choices, then it's a no brainer and people who want the imac anyway will get the unit....but with color choices, some people may hold out and not buy until their color of choice is available and if one color dominates, there could be a bottleneck in shipments

but the success of the mini ipod and all its colors may have created an expectation for apple to make a similar computer with that same color spectrum

Ha, thats an easy one, they can custom make colred covers for them on the cheap, like all the colored ipod holders.
 
BenRoethig said:
Personally, I like the solution that we came up with at the MacNN forums. Keep the iMac an LCD AIO and introduce a new model based on the same chipset called the iCube (and possibly an eCube as well)
please give us a link?
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Though with comments about the "pizza box: design, I think that we are are seeing a new separation of the eMac vs. eMac designs. I see the iMac design as being able to support the "cube" design. I see that with the lower cost of 15 to 16 inch monitors, that it is possible that the eMac goes to LCDs in the 15" and and 17" form factor. CRT's do offer the price advantage over LCD's. But not for long.

It would be nice for a fanless (or near fanless) iMac G5. Though the realities put this 6 to 12 months away.

What I see is a an iMac in the shape that was just shown, with a low noise fan. And and eMac to follow that is air-cooled with an ultra low speed fan, that includes a very low speed fan, or maybe no fan.
I think Crt's will have an advantage for a long time, you can get a quality 17" flat crt (16" viewable)with.24 dot pitch 1280x1024 resolution, faster than 16ms, 16 million colors, better than 170 viewing angle, no dead pixels, 3 year warranty, some say better black, more even color especialy with solid bacgrounds that dont fade, much more durable for $100, compared tp $399 for a 17" LCD after rebates.
or a 19"CRT (18" viewable) (1600X1200 1900 1440max) for $200 cpmpared to a 20" LCD for $999-$1299.

Or a 22" CRT over 2000x1500 for 449-699 withglare hood 5 year warranty compared to a 23" LCD for $1599-$2299.
Of course the LCD has plenty of advantages too. contrast, brightnest, clarity, less heat and energy and most of all size.
The Crt is 300-400% cheaper with similar spex, but slightly less viewable size
 
Apple ALWAYS gives us 2 year old technology for graphics cards in iMacs. NOTHING WILL CHANGE on this new G5 model. Get ready for a sub- standard card that can't be changed. The niche for the iMac is for people like me. I surf the web and use iPhoto and iMovie. I hate the sub-standard card too. Nothing like spending $2,200 I will say that again $2,200 and having an ulcer in your stomach because you spent big money on your Mac and Apple is giving us a 1.1 liter 4 banger in our 500 Mercedes when IT SHOULD have at least a small V8. Thanks Apple, for giving your loyal customer what want in a product. Not. And what obvious common sense dictates when building a computer in that class range. Total disregard for common sense and only sub-standard for corporate greed reasons. This from a radically liberal owner/employee/board of directors based company.
 
gooddog said:
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Tinted cube with aluminum monitor just clashes too much.
Ives would die .

As long as the cube has untinted parts of aluminum (as shown in the pic) no one would die :cool:
 
Tom P said:
Apple ALWAYS gives us 2 year old technology for graphics cards in iMacs. NOTHING WILL CHANGE on this new G5 model. Get ready for a sub- standard card that can't be changed. The niche for the iMac is for people like me. I surf the web and use iPhoto and iMovie. I hate the sub-standard card too. Nothing like spending $2,200 I will say that again $2,200 and having an ulcer in your stomach because you spent big money on your Mac and Apple is giving us a 1.1 liter 4 banger in our 500 Mercedes when IT SHOULD have at least a small V8. Thanks Apple, for giving your loyal customer what want in a product. Not. And what obvious common sense dictates when building a computer in that class range. Total disregard for common sense and only sub-standard for corporate greed reasons. This from a radically liberal owner/employee/board of directors based company.

apple is definitely overcharging us, but i wouldn't say it's all about greed

if you want to look at the greed angle, check out microsoft ;)

the world class industrial design apple brings us is not cheap to produce and neither is the user friendly, well thought out osx...if apple were all about greed, they would just give us a run of the mill computer in a box product or run of the mill operating system

some pc manufacturs also use non cutting edge graphics cards but also target those machines for the consumer...put the very best card in a pc machine and add great industrial design and then you have an alien computer, which costs more than any mac...if money were no object, i would have both macs and aliens in every room ;)

www.alienware.com
 
jbro said:
No way. And I love my cube! I would love to see a G5 cube, it would make me feel pretty bad about last night's G5 powermac purchase. But this would be very hard to cool - and with a horizontal optical drive? No way.

i don't think you will feel bad about a g5 power mac...you will see...that thing is fast

but if apple offers this g5 imac cube thing at $1199 or so, then you have a right to feel bad ;)
 
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